LED Headlights?? (Page 6/6)
theogre FEB 23, 02:57 AM

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Originally posted by Dennis LaGrua:
Its good to see the many successful upgrades to LED lighting here. Ignore the hysterical negativism about this type of lighting and go for it. People who preach that way are the ones stuck in the 1970's that still want to use a carburetor and points. The smart Fiero owner tries to use the latest technology.

More like get conned or actively pushing Fakes Counterfeits and Illegal parts sold thru BTR Amazon Ebay Wish Alliex etc.

If You actually Read my posts for HL for Years I basically say can upgrade the HL but do so the right way. Even my Cave has notes for legal HL upgrade > 5 years now.
Why?
Because Many got screwed by Munson and others selling their "upgrades" having many problems for 20+ years ago and hasn't gotten any better. Like a more recent Fad was BTR selling Plastic Covers w/ projector lamps is Illegal in most places in the US and Canada. Covers is just one problem for people bought Munson et al "upgrades" because that alone can Fail Inspection and Cops can stop you for any aftermarket covers over HL. So some remove the cover only to find w/o the covers for these setups snow leaves and more get into the hood then "rust" eats wiring etc, block light output, or very likely both. Fiero OE HL trim isn't just there to be pretty.

I Have been installing and using LEDs for Many Years and seen Way Too Many Crap units for Cars, Home and just about every other job.

Most LED HL "upgrades" like HID and many other "upgrades" way before them are still Crap and Illegal but real facts apparently don't matter to you and some others.
theogre APR 19, 02:24 AM
Today got pushed on more people so did more searching and Seem there's More issues w/ this "new" Amazon HL covered just above...
Maybe a "counterfeit" via Mislabel this w/ another real bulb Morsun makes. China makers and many vendors worldwide counterfeit everything and won't blink at counterfeiting China HL product.
If Morsun have cert for X bulb, even for exact bulb above, and product isn't labeled right... like could be old stock made before testing and mod the lens molds to meet rules... If true, the they aren't legal in US and others.

Amazon Seller "Afeax" mostly sells Cell Phone Parts... Only 2 HL Bulbs. No other car parts. (Currently only Amazon Warehouse has "used" parts to sell for above was likely return by buyers.)
Only other HL "he" sells look like same HL listed as fake in above listing but claims HL is "1.Dot approved,legal and safe on the road." yet w/ same bogus DOT mark❓

many clam the product use Osram Cree and other parts in them are often frauds on many levels. All Brands have Huge counterfeit problems like fake ACDelco and Walbro car parts sold thru Amazon Ebay and more. Morsun Does Not say has Osram LEDs.

Note too "Power: 110W"❓ If true would eat More power then OE and many others and can kill HL Wiring.
You hope they mean 110W Equivalent like most for home use say 60W Equiv but real use is ~ 9W. Even then maybe lying in the spec there and everywhere sold thru. Morsun has more accurate specs.

The "maker" is at Alibaba and morsunled.com but they have Many HL bulbs and no pic there seem to have DOT SAE MS-5786 HL VOR 19 mark. (Has too many listing to search fully.)

Just a fake DOT SAE not DOT SAE MS-5786 HL VOR 19 (MS-5786 is PN/MN @ morsunled.com)

But Some Morsun HL makes/sells are "Real" DOT labeled like https://www.alibaba.com/pro...eep_62479022948.html
Have TOP and complete DOT string = DOT SAE HL 15 LED VOL at the bottom but Don't see name/logo as DOT requires.

MS-5786 @ morsunled says has a halo/DRL... Unless something changed Halos on bulbs to replace H6054 aren't legal but doesn't seem the bulb has them. Pictures, spec, and video doesn't agree w/ each other... Pic and Plug say no. Desc/Spec White halo/DRL. Video say Yellow Turn light. Think Vid is different model w/ D at end.

We need better current pictures of the lens at minimum. One Kitskaboodle's pic seem has something but angle = can't read.

All AMECA PDFs have been removed. Only Google has cache them for now.
Morsun and other Chinese companies have some DOT HL but now harder to find real info.

[This message has been edited by theogre (edited 04-20-2020).]

qwikgta APR 25, 06:02 PM

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Originally posted by Kitskaboodle:

I just installed mine on my 85 GT and love them. DOT is all important for legal reasons and for proper cutoff design. I bought mine from Amazon. Grinding out the metal headlight bucket shells was a major pita, at least for the brand I bought. This is why every Fiero mechanic needs a Dremel in his toolbox. See pics... Kit[img]http://images.fieroforum.com/userimage s/Kitskaboodle/50BB0880-4270-4DD8-92DF-041F65869777.jpeg[/img]



same headlights I used in my 88 daily driver. love them.

Rob
JohnyWalter JUL 31, 07:56 AM
Good!
FieroWannaBe AUG 02, 09:16 AM
Check out JW speaker for USA made/designed and DOT NHSTA approved LED headlamps. OEM quality, used by the military and Harley Davidson.
kendell AUG 04, 07:43 PM

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Originally posted by Spadesluck:

Just going to add my experience here. This is what I purchased recently 5x7 LED Headlight and they work great. I am happy with my purchase. I can also say that the difference between the stockers and these is huge, much better visibility.



That looks like a better one! We'll just finish installing the brake kit, all terrain truck tires, and headache rack on the current truck project before we can clear the garage for the Fiero project. Will consider that for the headlight option.
ltlfrari AUG 06, 09:32 AM

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Originally posted by Fiero Ron:

I agree with Dennis, I just want to throw in my $0.02 since I have spent some time researching this subject. For my car I have two of these Hella Vision Plus 5X7 assemblies that take H4 bulbs (haven’t installed them yet though, I am in a parts-hoarding phase of my build), and the bulbs I want to use with them are GTR Lighting Ultra 2 Bulbs. Yes they are pricey, but based on their design, they place the LED chips where the low/high beam filaments in a stock H4 halogen bulb would be. This allows the beam pattern for the low beam and high beam to be almost exactly as if it were an H4 halogen bulb (no light scattering, and a stock looking cutoff line), while having more light output and a more pure white color temperature. I have made my decision based on a comparison of different style bulbs in a halogen housing on YouTube from Headlight Revolution. I actually believe these guys were the same people as Black Top Racing which used to sell some Fiero parts. Also, years ago I have used improperly designed, cheap LED bulbs before that had low output and they scattered light everywhere. This gives using LED’s in a projector housing a bad reputation. But LED technology has come a long way, and with a properly designed bulb it should be an upgrade to halogen. I hope this helps.




Holy mother of god, those bulbs cost more than my car is worth!