How do we know how many T Tops (Page 4/4) cam-a-lot AUG 20, 04:53 PM pointless question. How on earth is anyone supposed to know "how many are left"? hyperv6 AUG 20, 10:47 PM quote Originally posted by Kraniet: I just yesterday saw that one of the wreckers here in Sweden have parts from a 1988 GT T-top taken into traffic in 1989. Considering the year of the car Id assume it was a factory T-top. Now disassembled and being sold as parts. The car wasnt even crashed or anything so it makes you wonder why it got sent to be wrecked. For sure it would have been easy to fix it. I was wondering if itd be a good idea to buy the glass panels, are there any worth in them? Yes worth saving the glass and gaskets. To be honest with saving any parts. Car may be rusted under the body and not with repair or a bad engine not worth the cost to whole owned it to fix in Europe. Either way the parts if in goid shape are worth money including plastic parts. hyperv6 AUG 20, 10:52 PM quote Originally posted by cam-a-lot: pointless question. How on earth is anyone supposed to know "how many are left"? Not pointless as there is not enough left vs demand. But not enough demand to get replacement parts made. hnthomps AUG 23, 05:20 AM quote Originally posted by Raydar: There have also been more than a few converted by their owners, or other entities like the Fiero Factory. I saw a complete T-top roof section, that had been removed from a car, for sale yesterday. Radar, My 88 Mera (based on a GT Frame) is one of the cars converted from a hard top to a t-top. Nelson 1985 Fiero GT AUG 23, 12:13 PM quote Originally posted by hnthomps: Radar, My 88 Mera (based on a GT Frame) is one of the cars converted from a hard top to a t-top. Nelson Technically every Fiero t top, cjb or not was "converted" from a hard top (or sometimes sunroof), it's just whether Pontiac themselves shipped the cars to the conversion factory before the dealers, or whether the dealers shipped the cars independently or a person had it done independently. hyperv6 AUG 23, 09:23 PM Yes and all the near 8000 kits were used in creating every t top done. There was an early change to the glass and halo. Then the sell was changed in 88 kits to make the conversion simpler. There has always been a big push by some to highlight the CJB cars but the truth is they anre all related like twin sisters. ChopTop SEP 07, 11:11 PM So here's my t top story, but it's been so long and my memory has become fuzzy. Sometime in the early 90s Hot Rod or Car Craft Magazine? ran a short paragraph stating the C&C was liquidating their Fiero t-top kits. Since I lived so close I called them up and drove to the C&C factory in Brighton MI, and had them installed a set on my 85GT. I also seem to remember them telling me that since the magazine article came out that I had bought one of their last t-top sets. I think it only took a day for C&C to install it. Like I said it was a long time ago and I can't remember the price, but I do remember that was it was cheaper than aftermarket kits. Plus I seem to remember they did have the C&C logo etched into the t-top glass. hyperv6 SEP 09, 07:35 PM quote Originally posted by ChopTop: So here's my t top story, but it's been so long and my memory has become fuzzy. Sometime in the early 90s Hot Rod or Car Craft Magazine? ran a short paragraph stating the C&C was liquidating their Fiero t-top kits. Since I lived so close I called them up and drove to the C&C factory in Brighton MI, and had them installed a set on my 85GT. I also seem to remember them telling me that since the magazine article came out that I had bought one of their last t-top sets. I think it only took a day for C&C to install it. Like I said it was a long time ago and I can't remember the price, but I do remember that was it was cheaper than aftermarket kits. Plus I seem to remember they did have the C&C logo etched into the t-top glass. Yes the last kit to be installed was like 1992. The top was done by Skylite Sunroofs the new name for Cars and Concepts. The car owner came to the Fiero event at the Pontiac headquarters and Silverdome and had the top installed that week in time for the car show. It was a one day install. I had hung out at the show with the owner of of the company and former head of the program at C&C. He still has the second 88 T top the last I saw him. He is a rep for performance companies now and may be retired by now. I also had dinner with him that night. He was able to fill in much on the T tops as to how many and how it was operated. He used a pilot car in 1983 to make the first T top. The engineers at GM said it could not be done. He said in a couple weeks they had the car really. He took it to Pontiac and they were shocked it could be done. He went back every year asking to be a factory installed top but never coupe ge the deal done till 1988. But he did get it secured to where they could make the tops a dealer installed item. Dealers could send the cars to C&C or even a C&C shop around the country and have the tops installed and then sell it as a new car with full warranty. They added a small side sticker like the 88. In many cases the early cars were installed better as they were done by the one trained top guy at the shop and often took two days to install it as it was not a rush. Prices were about what the 88 price was. Mine was done in 1987 on my 1985. They did it under the name of my dealer who was selling T tops they converted. This way my warranties were safe. Much Is made about the 88 cars but all of them are nearly alike and the 88 really holds little special over any other t top. It is just good to have a good t top car period.