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KissMySSFiero
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MAY 12, 09:26 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by Dennis LaGrua:
Blah blah blah. Autos are faster than manuals
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If you want fast, get a Tesla. You don't even have to listen to a loud engine.
You can cook a steak in a microwave in 3 minutes. Doesn't mean it's better.
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SSFiero@Aol.com
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Kitskaboodle
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MAY 12, 10:58 AM
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Maybe I missed it above but I don’t think this particular aspect of transmissions has been brought up (and argued) and that is longevity. I know this conversation could go both ways. I’ll tell you a quick and true story about my friends experience with his 92 Corvette. He used to brag to me that he had well over 300K on his car and that he really took care of it, always drove it carefully & sensibly, did regular oil changes, etc. but…..he also admitted that he just changed out his auto transmission and he was now on number 3. I thought to myself, “What a letdown. Bragging about your great, reliable LT1 when your only at 300K and you’re already on auto transmission number 3”? Kind of a mute point in my opinion.
My point in this story is that for many (but certainly not all) some owners manual cars outlasted their auto cars. IMO, this would be especially true for long distance freeway driving manual cars. Just wanted to throw this into the discussion. Kit[This message has been edited by Kitskaboodle (edited 05-12-2025).]
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Vintage-Nut
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MAY 12, 11:39 AM
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Thus, my comment:
| quote | | No one has brought up automatic transmission repair costs... |
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ALL of my manual gear boxes never needed repair as the factory engines were used.
But the repair cost of a few automatic transmissions was more than the worth of the vehicles....
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I have 'junked' three vehicles in my life because the automatic transmission repair costs, while the engines were still functioning....[This message has been edited by Vintage-Nut (edited 05-12-2025).]
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fieroguru
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MAY 12, 05:27 PM
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I just paid $5,500 to replace the automatic transmission in my son's car.
The new super complicated autos are very expensive to replace when the time comes.
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richard in nc
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MAY 12, 06:13 PM
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everybody these days want a four door pickup with the hood higher than the roof of my car.loaded.i bought a ford aerostar just because it is a five speed.
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cvxjet
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MAY 12, 06:21 PM
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The new C8 Vette weighs 3700 lbs....even worse, though, is that it's weight distribution is like a 911 porsche- 40-60.....The reason for the butt-heaviness, is due to the twin-clutch transmission....It weighs (Are you sitting down..?) 350 POUNDS!!!
If they would just sell a version of the C8 with a manual trans, they could take 200+ lbs of the azz-end...
Benefit of more equal weight distribution; Car & Drivel magazine does a test of cars at Virginia raceway every year....One year they were testing a 911 Carrera and a Boxster/Cayman....the 911 had a much better Power-to-weight ratio, but after lapping the two cars, they came back with the same lap times...so 3 other drivers took the 911 out and tried to better the lap time- but they could not; While the 47/53% Box-Cay was just willing to do whatever the driver wanted, the (God's greatest!!!!!) 911 Carrera (40/60%) was always trying to KILL the driver (DTO- Snap-oversteer)
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css9450
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MAY 13, 08:05 AM
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I've never owned, say, a Ford Taurus, a Chrysler minivan, a Honda Odyssey or any kind of Nissan with a CVT so I've dodged the bullet on the most problematic transmissions. The various GM THM125 (three of them) and 4T45 transmissions we've had in the extended family have all been flawless, and that includes the 300K + miles I put on the same kind of THM125 like comes in the Fiero (I only retired that car because some kid wrecked it). My dad on the other hand ruined the clutch on a brand-new Honda Accord 5-speed within 40K miles. So I think a lot of the longevity boils down to user competence or abuse. In other words, your mileage may vary.
My WRX will be an interesting one to watch.... Supposedly the regular non-STI 6-speed is an easy one to break, but that most likely comes at the hands of the kids who buy them and beat on them on (or off) the track. I fully expect to get a long life out of mine but that's with me driving normally like an adult.
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cam-a-lot
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MAY 13, 08:39 PM
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manual transmissions are still super common in other parts of the world.
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Patrick
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MAY 13, 09:44 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by css9450:
My WRX will be an interesting one to watch.... Supposedly the regular non-STI 6-speed is an easy one to break, but that most likely comes at the hands of the kids who buy them and beat on them on (or off) the track. I fully expect to get a long life out of mine but that's with me driving normally like an adult.
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My '98 JDM Subaru Impreza WRX STi is a 5-spd, and I've heard that these 5-spds are the Subie transmissions that are relatively weak. I believe it's 2nd gear that usually lets go. I'm not surprised, with the power that the top of the line EJ engines put out.
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EyeAmZoom
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MAY 28, 09:19 AM
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The newest tech will always feel dated when the next 'newest tech' comes out. A good analog experience will always feel good.
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