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Trinten
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APR 08, 04:25 PM
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Quick update,
Besides the recommendation from Larry, FieroGuru was also kind enough to share tips and tool recommendations to help me out. I've also gotten some other general supportive PMs from folks - thank you all for watching the progress and the support!
The tool that Larry recommended showed up first (the one that FieroGuru recommended is on the way). So today I put a motor in the jig, used the drill press to do a manual-twist to start the threads so it's square, going about 1/3 way in all three spots, then moved the bit to the handle. WOW what a difference!! It went a little more than twice as fast from start to finish.
I ordered another M8x1.25 tap today (after watching Project Farm's video on taps and dies to find a quality one -- I didn't find that video before I bought the tap and die set that I currently have). So this way I can leave one in the drill press and one clamped in the hand driver.
The plan is to have enough motors all tapped to use up the last of the adapters I got from Rodney by the time the wiring pigtails show up.
I still need to sort out sourcing for the hardware. Prior to that I need to complete a formal inventory of what I got from Rodney, bag the stuff into kits, and figure out what (if anything) I still need to buy. So far I've just unpacked the boxes he sent me a few times and said "damn, that's a big bag of <insert washer, bolt, etc>."
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Trinten
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APR 19, 02:14 PM
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Pigtails have arrived!
I'm going to work on putting some complete sets together, and make time tomorrow and Friday to focus on the fastener side of things.
When I have sets ready to go, I'll be reaching out to folks who have posted here and sent me a PM asking to be in queue for one. After those are done (or I have sets ready beyond them) I will start a thread in the Mall, and will try to handle it the same way as others with a reproducible product - I'll post up how many I have, and will sell them on a first come, first serve basis.
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Trinten
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APR 23, 09:46 PM
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I finished doing an inventory of the fasteners that Rodney included with everything I got from him.
The great news is that about half of the various fasteners needed I have, and have enough of to cover the remaining Rodney adapters.
I then used his hand written notes, and my remaining fastener (weld-on) kit I had from my original purchase of kits from him to make sure I was reading everything right. Took measurements of the length of the fasteners, put them all into my project book, and then ordered the fasteners I didn't have. Again this is focusing on the weld-on kit right now, though I did inventory the u-nuts that he included as well. That part will be done when I go to figure out and what I need for the clip-on setup.
I finished the modifications to 4 sets of motors today. I did see another quality difference between the Chinese motors and the US/Mexico units. The Chinese ones only use 3 little 'tabs' to hold the cap on the face (gear side) of the motor, the US/Mexico units use 6. I also noticed that it *appears* in addition to shaving down part of the rim around the cap, Rodney was using a tool to tap/fold a bit of that edge (at the trim start/end points) over to reinforce the cap. So I did the same on all the motors I modified today.
I ran power through them all, no issues with operation, granted that's without load. I'm going to see what I can do to setup a test rig somehow to test the motors with an appropriate load. I really want to make sure I offer you guys the best product with the best Q.C. that I can figure out how to do.
Once the fasteners I need show up, I'll start bagging them up into kits and mounting the motors on the Rodney adapters. Then I need to figure out how to do the load testing. Once that's done, I'll be ready to sell weld-on setups!
If anyone has any suggestions on something I can put together to test this, please let me know. I do have a passenger side window actuator in my garage, but no spare door, so not sure how that would work, and it's only one side. Maybe I can attach a band to an appropriate weight (2.5 lbs? Since the window has that assist spring in normal operation?) and test the motor in 'winding up' the band with the weight in both directions.
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Trinten
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MAY 01, 01:03 PM
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I have finished putting together 4 sets, including bagging up the fasteners and pigtail extensions and crimp butt connectors with heat-shrink.
I have the fasteners for both the U-nut and weldon. My u-nut kit will not include the 'stepper' drill bit that Rodney's kit did.
I have tested all the motors that I've prepped. I have not had a chance to do a reinstall to create my own documentation of the install. Rodney has been kind enough to leave his instructions up on his site for the time being, so please refer to his site for install instructions.
While I think it's mentioned there, one of the things we did to ensure the adapter was marked right and nuts welded on in the right spots, we marked the end of the stand offs with a little RTV (I think it was RTV), then pressed it to the window regulator to mark where we would drill out necessary holes. Once that was done we cleaned the holes, then fastened the adapters to the regulator using the nuts. Mike did a tiny spot weld on two sides of each nut. We then unbolted the adapter, and finished welding the nuts. This ensured the nuts would be on point and not need to worry about something being misaligned just enough to cause problems.
I've got 3 more sets about half-way done. Yesterday was a productive day, after multiple weekends of looking at my setup and Rodney's jigs and making adjustments, I finally found a good setup and workflow that has made things a little quicker for me to prep the motors.
I've had a few PMs from people who were interested, so I've PM'd them. If you are interested in a set, please sent me a PM. I will not take payments unless I have a set ready to ship. Once I have this first set of 4 sold and I get feedback from the users, I'll start a sale thread in The Mall.
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