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lorennerol
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JUL 16, 11:28 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by bnevets27:
If they an fix the green tint. Why do they think OEM is tinted green?
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Because they are. The OEM side/door windows had a slight green tint, so the sail panels were made to match.
I pay attention to these things and have Chris' gray tint sails on my restored Fiero. The much-ballyhooed curve isn't an issue- properly installed they curve with the car. What does bother me is that the tint doesn't match my windows and that the GT graphic is under the tint. His no-tint sails don't have that issue and if I was to use his again I'd go clear.
But I prefer the stock look and chose green-tint glass from ProSource when I replaced the side windows, so the OEM-style sails from TFS are a nice option. It seems like the GT graphics on them is also under the tint, however.
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Mickey_Moose
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JUL 18, 02:32 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by IMSA GT:
I always love the "curve" debate. If the Fiero was a $500,000 true collector car, I understand the correct curve issue.....much like matching numbers on a muscle car. Since this is a car that will only be worth market value, I see no need to plunk another $100 or higher just to have a slight bow in the window that no one will notice. As long as the window mounts correctly, I have no issue with a slightly flatter panel.
The last thing I do is go to a car show, look at a Fiero and say "Hey...that window doesn't have the right curve to it".
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Well it matters to me - and yes I know the value of the car and could careless as I don't have it as an "investment" (after all if that was the case, why did I dump time and money into my 86 with the 4.9l and f-body interior?). I didn't ask for a debate about which is better, I asked about the quality of these new ones.  lol
MinnGreenGT - thank you for the pictures. 
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FieroStore
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JUL 19, 01:18 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by JohnWPB:
They really just need to get this shipping thing figured out!
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Blanket statements aside, in this particular case, you are correct in saying that the shipping charge was too high for the spoiler gaskets. Thank you for bringing it to our attention. We neglected to make the gaskets eligible for USPS 1st Class shipping. That oversight has now been corrected. Unfortunately, our web site only displays one rate for 1st Class shipping ($5.25 for a 15oz package). If anyone would like to save a couple dollars on a pair of gaskets, we invite you to contact us directly and we will be happy to mail them inside of a catalog for $3.10. Once again for the record, we don't view shipping as a profit center. If you see a rate that looks out of whack, simply call or send us an email and we will be happy to audit the rate for you. Retail shipping rates from USPS and UPS are public knowledge and we have nothing to hide.
With regard to the windows, they have the same curvature as OEM. We tried photographing them many different ways, but we were not able to adequately capture the subtlety of the curves. Hopefully you can trust us when we say that we laid them over NOS GM windows and saw that the curves were the same.
Indeed, the factory windows did have a green tint. The tint of these windows is slightly darker, which is the only minor flaw that we could find when comparing against OEM. The tint you see in MinnGreenGT's pics is a bit light, so please be aware that the windows appear a bit darker when not in direct sunlight. In order to match the GM tint exactly, a special run of acrylic would have to be manufactured, which would add to the cost significantly.
Given the response to the current price point, we're fairly certain that the market cannot bear anything more expensive. With that said, we recognize that these windows probably aren't for everyone, which is why we continue to carry Chris's very popular windows at the lower price. Both are great products that fit very well. We believe that the premium windows will appeal to a segment of the market that is willing to pay a higher price for higher quality. Each of the premium windows is CNC cut, which makes the edges better than OEM. GM die stamped their windows, which often left plastic slag along some of the edges. Toward the end of production, the quality of GM's dot matrix pattern also suffered greatly. We would be remiss if we didn't also give credit to the quality of the manufacturer's installation instructions, which are quite detailed.
Many thanks to those who posted positive comments about these windows. We frequently take broadly worded beatings for selling parts that are "poor quality", "too expensive", and have "ridiculous shipping rates". We understand and accept that this is a cost of doing business, but to all of our satisfied customers, we truly appreciate your support.
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Bozzie
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JUL 19, 01:40 PM
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WOW ^^^^^^ So WELL said. Im close to this store and visit often. Ive just looked at these windows and was just in awe of the feel and quality. Cudo's to you for raising the bar on fiero products. I truly hope you continue to go in that direction as there is so much junk out there. Your a great company and one of the few around. Thanks for your support to this community .
Boz
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lorennerol
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JUL 20, 11:57 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by FieroStore:
Many thanks to those who posted positive comments about these windows. We frequently take broadly worded beatings for selling parts that are "poor quality", "too expensive", and have "ridiculous shipping rates". We understand and accept that this is a cost of doing business, but to all of our satisfied customers, we truly appreciate your support. |
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Although I've been frustrated with the quality of some of your replacement products, I'm also dead-clear that:
1. You are doing the Fiero community an invaluable service by producing/offering replacement parts that aren't available anywhere else.
2. The Fiero community aren't, generally, accustomed to spending money for replacement parts like some other car groups (GTOs, vintage Porsche, etc.). I get that keeping prices low is especially important with this group.
And...oh how I wish there was a way that worked for you financially to offer other 'premium' parts. The replacement interior switches and bezels in particular. I just paid $65 for a NOS trunk release switch because the TFS one I bought had the light that shines through the entire switch at night and it started sticking in the release position, running my battery down totally dead twice before I realized what was happening. The electric door lock switches I bought I ended up tossing and replacing with expensive NOS as well. This is why I would very much like to see the value of the cars go up; more value leads to more collectability leads to more demand for better quality OEM-style replacement parts for restorations.
Unless the values at least stabilize we're going to get into a place where there are too few cars left with too little value for replacement parts to pencil for the manufacturer/seller.
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JUL 20, 12:15 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by cam-a-lot:
Are they the same windows? |
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No these aren't the same as anything else previously tried.
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JUL 20, 12:19 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by FieroStore:
to all of our satisfied customers, we truly appreciate your support. |
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Patrick
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JUL 20, 02:35 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by fierosound:
That's nothing compared to shipping anything to Canada!!
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Yeah, it's awfully difficult to feel much sympathy for anyone complaining about shipping costs within the States.  I get around the high cross-border shipping costs to Canada by picking up my orders across the border... but it's a three hour round trip. Helluva nuisance.
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FieroStore
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JUL 20, 04:23 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by lorennerol:
1. You are doing the Fiero community an invaluable service by producing/offering replacement parts that aren't available anywhere else.
I just paid $65 for a NOS trunk release switch because the TFS one I bought had the light that shines through the entire switch at night and it started sticking in the release position, running my battery down totally dead twice before I realized what was happening. The electric door lock switches I bought I ended up tossing and replacing with expensive NOS as well. |
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Thank you for the positive feedback. Very sorry you had to pay that much for NOS. If anyone else has the old style trunk release switch that shines through, the problem has since been corrected and we are happy to warranty it if you contact us. As for the lock switches, they are a different story. For the passenger side, we were selling Delco up until recently, when they were discontinued. We replaced them with Standard Ignition, but we haven't sold enough yet to determine if they are better than Motormite, which we offer for the driver's side. We're guessing that the quality is comparable.
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tshark
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JUL 20, 04:27 PM
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Loren,
I had the original TFS trunk switch. Yes, it had issues. I now have the newer version of the TFS trunk switch. It is right, now. Binding can easily be resolved by adjusting the toggle, or you could always swap the nice toggle to the old guts. I should also point out that binding CAN be caused by the toggle binding against the bezel. There is a bit of adjustment that can be done.
As for the defrost/trunk release bezel, be sure that you get the screws threaded in correctly, rather than at an angle. No issues with the TFS bezel.[This message has been edited by tshark (edited 07-20-2018).]
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