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lateFormula
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AUG 21, 12:54 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by bkw88:
Has anyone thought about going to a paint shop and having them mix the color off of a original intake. I have seen them match some odd colors over the years. Just a idea if someone wants it exact.
Brian
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The factory original finish on these parts was powdercoat, not paint. If you are serious about refinishing them, find a shop that does powdercoating and have them refinish the parts. Any decent powdercoating shop will have a good selection of reds, you just need to go through the chips and choose a red you like. Here's a tip, if you do choose to have them powdercoated, take the book(s) of chips outside on a sunny day to look at the colors. No better light source than the sun to see the colors correctly.
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E.Furgal
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AUG 21, 01:51 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by lateFormula:
The factory original finish on these parts was powdercoat, not paint. If you are serious about refinishing them, find a shop that does powdercoating and have them refinish the parts. Any decent powdercoating shop will have a good selection of reds, you just need to go through the chips and choose a red you like. Here's a tip, if you do choose to have them powdercoated, take the book(s) of chips outside on a sunny day to look at the colors. No better light source than the sun to see the colors correctly. |
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In the 80's??
Are you sure it wasn't just baked on enamel .. like the off road white wheels of the same era??
and not what we think of as powder coat[This message has been edited by E.Furgal (edited 08-21-2016).]
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lateFormula
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AUG 21, 03:16 PM
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Yes. Powder coating has been around since the early 50's.
When the original finish starts to break down it comes off in flakes. If it were enamel it would be more likely to peel off like an old decal. Plus if it were an enamel I would expect a primer coat underneath it which there is not.
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E.Furgal
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AUG 22, 04:23 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by lateFormula:
Yes. Powder coating has been around since the early 50's.
When the original finish starts to break down it comes off in flakes. If it were enamel it would be more likely to peel off like an old decal. Plus if it were an enamel I would expect a primer coat underneath it which there is not. |
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baked on enamel didn't have primer under it on wheels, what makes you think it get it on an intake..
The reason I'm questioning the powercoating,, is it might have been around for decades before the 80's.. but g.m. if g.m. was able to power coat engine parts, I think more than just the fiero would have got it..
quad 4.. the sfi 3.8 v6 ,the 3.1 v6 in the sport models econoboxes/etc.. and the TPI in the vette.. none got it..
as I'm sure the intakes were poured at the same foundry .. and the equipment would've been there..[This message has been edited by E.Furgal (edited 08-22-2016).]
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lateFormula
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AUG 22, 06:13 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by E.Furgal:
baked on enamel didn't have primer under it on wheels, what makes you think it get it on an intake.. |
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These parts were cast aluminum, likely sand cast due to the rough porous finish. Enamels don't bond well to porous surfaces, but lacquers do. For an enamel to bond to a porous surface it needs a primer coat.
| quote | Originally posted by E.Furgal:The reason I'm questioning the powercoating,, is it might have been around for decades before the 80's.. but g.m. if g.m. was able to power coat engine parts, I think more than just the fiero would have got it..
quad 4.. the sfi 3.8 v6 ,the 3.1 v6 in the sport models econoboxes/etc.. and the TPI in the vette.. none got it..
as I'm sure the intakes were poured at the same foundry .. and the equipment would've been there..
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The only other GM engine I am aware of from that era that had colored/finished aluminum parts was the 2.0 turbo motor that was in the Sunbird. All of the other GM engines with aluminum intakes or valve covers had clear anodize finishes. It's not that they couldn't, but a decision was made to not do so (likely cost related). The black air filter boxes of that era were all electrocoated, the same process that is still used today on wiper arm assemblies.[This message has been edited by lateFormula (edited 08-22-2016).]
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hyperv6
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AUG 22, 07:08 AM
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Yes the original Pontiac coating was powder coated. It is not new for industry.
It did see the addition of use for home applications and some improved finishes in the 90's but that is all.
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qwikgta
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SEP 01, 02:54 PM
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SamanthaM
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SEP 19, 01:41 PM
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I followed the lead of others and used Duplicolor 1632. I cleaned the engine bay and removed any loose flakes. Then I taped off the parts I wanted and primed it and painted. The color is a dam close match! I used a paint brush and sprayed into the paint cap to touch up a few spots afterward. Turned out pretty good for a quick job.
 [This message has been edited by SamanthaM (edited 09-19-2019).]
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cvxjet
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SEP 19, 03:26 PM
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I just bought some Duplicolor Chrysler Red (DE1632) and it appears to perfectly match my 1985 Intake and an 87 intake that I am modifying....
If you look it up at Summit Racing as "DE-1632" it comes up at $5.99 an Aerosol can....(I tried searching for duplicolor DE1632 and it said not found (B-Zarre!)
I actually bought my can at the local O'Reilly......[This message has been edited by cvxjet (edited 09-19-2019).]
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