What caused Pontiac Fieros to catch fire? (Page 2/3)
css9450 SEP 24, 07:46 AM

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Originally posted by hyperv6:

We really need a book to document thus car with the truth.




You've been hinting at that book for years. How close to publication are you?

Raydar SEP 24, 09:06 AM
You never hear about all the 6000s and Celebrities etc., that also were powered by the "R" code Iron Duke, catching fire.

It occurs to me that if a rod went out the front of the block in one of those, most of the oil just went all over the radiator and the ground. Messed up your day, to be sure, but no flambe'.
If it went out the front of the block in a Fiero, the oil headed straight for the catalytic converter.
1985 Fiero GT SEP 24, 11:25 AM

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Originally posted by css9450:


You've been hinting at that book for years. How close to publication are you?



Randomly saw this in another post Here and thought of this thread.


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Originally posted by hyperv6:

There is a handful off us [Fred] here that really need to get together and put together a good book on this car. Too much information I am affraid will be lost and too much internet myths will take their place.



Dated Dec. 8, 2011, so over a decade haha!
olejoedad SEP 24, 07:45 PM
Q: Why do you never see a green Fiero?

A: All the green ones burned up.
hyperv6 SEP 24, 08:24 PM

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Originally posted by css9450:


You've been hinting at that book for years. How close to publication are you?



I have been trying to get Fred involved as between the two of us we can provide a very accurate and well documented story.

But to this point he has shown little interest. I have offered to do the writing and just have him offer Info and approve of what is written.

God forbid anything happen to us and a few others that hold info it may be lost. We are not getting younger.

This would not be a profit deal as books pay poorly. But it could be self published. It would be ordered on Amazon and printed the day it is ordered. That way no one has to put up any money for a printing and then try yo sell them to break even.

If we started I expect it might take a year or less.

At some point I may go it alone.
hyperv6 SEP 24, 08:25 PM

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Originally posted by 1985 Fiero GT:


Dated Dec. 8, 2011, so over a decade haha!



Talk to Fred friend.

If you can do better have at it.
hyperv6 SEP 24, 08:36 PM

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Originally posted by Raydar:

You never hear about all the 6000s and Celebrities etc., that also were powered by the "R" code Iron Duke, catching fire.

It occurs to me that if a rod went out the front of the block in one of those, most of the oil just went all over the radiator and the ground. Messed up your day, to be sure, but no flambe'.
If it went out the front of the block in a Fiero, the oil headed straight for the catalytic converter.



The truth is most broken rods never go through a block. They have to break near a piston to be long enough to go through a block. Also most have to be at high RPM.

If a rod spins a bearing and breaks it woul not be close to the block.

The temp under the Fieto deck lid is much more higher than a front engine car. This is why we had fans on Alternators and coils unlike other cars. That elevated temp is what set the oil off.

To this day having been involved with Fiero’s over 40 years I have never seen a rod through the block. I have seen a few broken rods and many spun bearings but never an iron Duke with a rod out the block that was not in a sprint car or IMSA car.

Every iron Duke leaked out the valve cover like the Titanic unless someone replaced the RTV with a Gasket. We made a lot of money doing this in the 80’s.

Now could a block had a Rod go through it and leak on a converter yes but it was not something we saw back then.

Also all rods were not bad just some of 84.

The 84 had very poor air flow in the rear compartment. Between that and the move yo the V6 they had to redo the air flow.

cvxjet SEP 25, 12:11 AM
I had heard that the broken rods tended to cut thru the oil pan, which would (Sometimes) allow oil to contact the Cat.

In modern times, with the Fiero approaching 40 years of age, there are dangers from leaking gaskets, early headlight motors, and electrical wiring shorts....
hyperv6 SEP 25, 06:18 AM
Has anyone here seen a rod through the block or pan.

I’m sure it may have happened but likely in much fewer cases than the fires.

I saw spun bearings on a number of cars but never saw a broken rod in any of the 84-85 cars back in the day. Let alone one through a pan or block.
Raydar SEP 25, 10:19 AM

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Originally posted by hyperv6:

Has anyone here seen a rod through the block or pan.




I think I remember seeing a 2.8 or two with ventilated blocks. Not sure about Dukes.
Never heard of a 6000 or Celebrity burning down, though. Ever.