High-Flowing V6 OEM-Style Air Cleaner Lid ... (Page 2/4)
theogre MAY 10, 09:58 AM

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Originally posted by Patrick:
I've copied the entire post by Todd just to demonstrate how unnecessary it is to copy the entire post simply to respond. Do we really need to see everything that was originally posted, including the images?

I sometime quoted w/ Pic's but often to add thumb to {img} tag so = {img thumb} so pic's have a thumb nail & pic in case quote post is edited.

Also Just adding Thumb means PFF will have the small copy of image from any other site because some still use imageshack etc or use pic @ amazon etc that can & have deleted/move a pic then have Red X problem here.
hyperv6 MAY 11, 08:28 AM
Unless you are converted to a mass air system these changes amount to little. The factory closed loop really does not adjust yo more air or colder air.

Also the air coming in is pretty cool and that is why the intake is in a cooler part of the car on the side.

82-T/A [At Work] MAY 11, 09:46 PM
To everyone:

1 - I know a factory 2.8 Fiero will not see any benefit.
2 - I also know the air under the decklid is hot
3 - Thank you
cliffw MAY 12, 08:39 AM

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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
To everyone:

1 - I know a factory 2.8 Fiero will not see any benefit.
2 - I also know the air under the decklid is hot
3 - Thank you




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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
I said if you can get past the hot air (fabricate something) and use it with the stock air canister (for which it fits), you could get air coming from both the top and the bottom of the filter canister.



Forgive my woefully lacking engineering prowess but ... I see things which I question.

Would you use a set of headers of which one side had a larger diameter ? Or say a pump with different sized fluid suction lines ?
82-T/A [At Work] MAY 12, 11:51 AM

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Originally posted by cliffw:

Forgive my woefully lacking engineering prowess but ... I see things which I question.

Would you use a set of headers of which one side had a larger diameter ? Or say a pump with different sized fluid suction lines ?




Guys... if you were running a bored and stroked 3.4 w/ 3.5 liters of displacement, a bored throttle body, and a DAWG mod and a larger intake tube... you absolutely could make use of the additional air. I'm not saying anyone should do this, I'm literally just saying this was something I found in the junkyard, and thought it was cool, and it was $2 bucks, and it fits the stock air canister. Maybe someone could do something with this if you wanted to make custom. I'm not understanding your analogy. I feel like you guys are all acting like this...


[This message has been edited by 82-T/A [At Work] (edited 05-12-2024).]

cliffw MAY 14, 08:56 AM

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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
I'm not understanding your analogy.



Let me try this one. Although it may make less sense.

An out door spigot, with a "Y" enabling two hoses. One half inch, the other 3/4. Which one would the flow fill the same bucket first. Which one produces more pressure ?

My thoughts likely don't matter. However, the air flow designed to enrich the air/fuel mixture correctly, should be considered when adapting air intake or exhaust amounts.

My mind wanders about all things before I make a decision.
cliffw MAY 14, 08:59 AM

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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
Guys... if you were running a bored and stroked 3.4 w/ 3.5 liters of displacement, a bored throttle body, and a DAWG mod and a larger intake tube... you absolutely could make use of the additional air.



My lack of engineering prowess would make me wonder if using a larger exhaust system or headers, might create a need for more intake volume.
82-T/A [At Work] MAY 14, 09:12 AM

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Originally posted by cliffw:

My lack of engineering prowess would make me wonder if using a larger exhaust system or headers, might create a need for more intake volume.




Hah, I think you're trolling me now...

82-T/A [At Work] APR 19, 10:19 AM
Ok, I got a lot of **** from people on here about this post... haha...

But I bought something this morning that I think I can further add to this...


I found this air intake canister on eBay that came from a 1984-1989 V6 Pontiac Firebird / Camaro:






Now, I don't plan to use the air cleaner assembly, but I do plan to use that "hood" that's sitting on top of it. Not sure exactly how I plan to do this, but my goal would be to use that hood, along with the air cleaner lid (image posted in the first post).

Granted, I'm well aware that the stock air intake is adequate for the stock V6... and other than removing the water separator, there's not a lot of benefit. Of course, I'll be going with a 3.4 and larger TB and bored intake. I like performance modifications that LOOK totally OEM. I don't think I'll gain millions of horsepower, but maybe 1 or 2 at peak acceleration with my 3.4 when it's built. But we'll see...

I have about a dozen 1982-1984 Pontiac TransAm vacuum controlled louver systems that I can butcher. Basically... works similar to a ThermAC valve, that when a decrease of vacuum occurs, it initiates a vacuum solenoid which flips open the flap.


Personally, I think this would be pretty cool... just not sure how it all connects, but I assume this plastic piece merely snaps on top of the canister... but we'll see.
Dennis LaGrua APR 19, 11:48 AM
When it came to adding a high flowing air filter to my 3800SC swap, all I did was to ditch the input box, took the canister apart and mig welded larger diameter input and output opening connections. Used 3"1/2" air pipe to the filter can. To guard against rain coming down and in, I kept the Holley side scoop but the opening was restrictive so several 1/2" holes were drilled in the bottom to open it up. The end result was good flow with an awning like cover to shield the grill opening from a downpour. Have gone though some serious downpours without issues. Started with an K & N filter element. They are non-restrictive good for stock engines but they are oiled. Had to change it as it was fouling the MAF sensor

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