Thoughts, advice on this 3800sc conversion car? (Page 2/3)
liv4God MAR 14, 03:51 AM
From what I can see in the pictures the car was done well and the work was done right. I don't see paint overspray anywhere, engine packaging looks well thought and quality parts used. Good attention to detail was used down to incorporating the Fiero horn button on an aftermarket steering wheel. You'll be able to better determine in person, but from what I see on the pictures this is a quality car that should be reliable fun.

As for value, it really comes down to you and the owner, but Fieros are selling for a lot more these days, and this is an excellent example with a selection of desirable modifications. If you bought a $2500 fiero in decent shape you would spend a lot more than an additional $6500 to bring it to what this car is. And 80's Corvette? This is a better performing car than an 80's Corvette and a whole lot more interesting too.

It is not weird to like the Notchback over the fastback. There are a lot of us who do!
Dennis LaGrua MAR 14, 06:00 AM

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Originally posted by slick-rides:

I did ask the seller about mileage of the engine, car itself, and the trans. Also asked if they're any paint blemishes. I see he read it, but hasn't responded.



Another key question would be "why are you selling the car?" If the guy had the car for 12 years but when was the engine swap done?
From what I have seen, engine swap/modified cars in general are usually not good investments and always sell for far less than what it cost to build them. Notchbacks while attractive in their own way don't seem to bring the same price as the GT fastbacks. If $9,000 is worth it to you then buy the car. While you couldn't build it for that, I guarantee that when you sell it you'll be lucky to get half that. Save for the 88 model GT the Pontiac Fiero is not a prime collector car. Its more a cult classic. Whichever way you go, good luck on buying a Fiero. There are a lot of them out there so be choosy.

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coolink13 MAR 14, 06:59 AM
No way He will take 5500.00 I agree 7500.00 . 7000.00 Cash in new 100.00 Bills would take it most likely. It may be for sale for a while if you want to risk it? It will probably drop in price. I love the notchbacks!! Forgive me if I over looked this? Have you driven the car? It looks like a stock radiator. Most people upgrade the that.
olejoedad MAR 14, 07:57 AM
The value of anything is determined by the people participating in the transaction.

It's a great bet that this modified Fiero will out handle, out accelerate, and outstop any 1980's corvette, and be more comfortable and unique to boot.

I have seen Fieros as nice as this one sell for over $10K in the last year.

Follow your heart on this one.
TM_Fiero MAR 14, 08:52 AM
The car seems to be well put together. Give it a good look over for any rust issues and wear and tear items when seeing it in person. The $9k prices is just their asking price, can be had for less, how much is hard to say. There has been other 3800 SC Fieros for sale around $6-7k lately. Keep in mind that there might not be any close to you and shipping one will add and $1k to the cost and if you don't see it in person before buying, you take a big risk. I'd buy that Fiero before any Corvette from the mid-70's to late 90's.

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PK MAR 14, 08:55 AM
Sorry can't help you on a price guide but the car looks good and more importantly looks like some care, thought and attention to detail has gone into it.

Very neat.

sourmash MAR 14, 09:40 AM
Here's a red '88 mentioned in the Mall at 8k. He sold the White one.

http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum4/HTML/079136.html
fieroguru MAR 14, 09:58 AM
How much the car is worth to you depends entirely on how close it is to what you want. If it is everything you want, done the way you want, then spend whatever it takes to buy it... You can start enjoying it right away vs. spending years and more money to build it.

This car as seen in the pictures (which could be deceiving) can't be built for $10K to that same level without years of DIY work. If it is exactly what you want, then anything under 10K is saving $$$ and more importantly buying a completed car saves you a lot of time.

My preferred series of questions:
  • How many miles driven since it was swapped? - Reliable swapped Fieros are a blast to drive, so most get some miles racked up on them
  • How many years since the swap was completed or running? This will give you the average miles per year driven. Swaps with 25K miles in 5 years will likely be more reliable than a swap with 1000 miles in 5 years.
  • What is the longest trip the car has been on: Reliable swaps have owners willing to take them on day trips hours and hours away.
  • Was the swap documented? All cars will need maintenance, and you will need to know what every component used in the swap is. Is it a FIero part, is it the donor engine part, is it from some other application? A spreadsheet with every part (and part#) used in the swap adds $1000 to the price tag for me.


After these 4 questions, then it gets down to inspecting the quality of the work looking at the mounts used, quality of the fabrication, wiring harness routing (location to heat sources, signs of damage or crimp connectors used), and taking it for a test drive.


slick-rides MAR 14, 01:59 PM
Found this ad / discussion about the car. Been for sale a few months... It answers some questions about the car. Seller still hasn't replied to me, so maybe he changed his mind about selling.

https://www.facebook.com/gr...ink/1602545886598296
solotwo MAR 14, 08:30 PM

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Originally posted by olejoedad:

You can't duplicate that car for that price.



I agree