See Thru Deck Lid? (Page 2/3)
Gall757 FEB 15, 09:08 AM
Not to nitpick further, but the refrigerant we now use is R134a. R12 is the bad stuff.

http://www.brighthubenginee...for-r12-refrigerant/

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Harold James Kie FEB 15, 07:30 PM
One thing that I did not see addressed is that if you do use a piece of flat glass it will not be flush around the perimeter as the rear deck has a slight curve to it. You could have the glass bowed by a glass shop if you supplied a template but it may be costly. I only put the Lexan in mine as I was fabricating an aluminum grille to fit in but did not want to leave an open hole in the deck while I was working on the new piece. After I put the Lexan in I lost interest in the aluminum grille and just left it that way.

I sent you a PM but did not hear back fro you.
skitime MAR 08, 02:30 PM

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Originally posted by mrfiero:


Yes....it is tempered glass. I am looking into re-working it in the near future. I'm not a fan of the install and hope to clean it up a bit (make it more of a flush fit, if possible).



If you try that I would suggest doing it on a spare trunk lid. There is way too much work on that one. If you can perfect it then try to transfer it to the original one. I had tried several different methods of mounting such as underneath, flush and mounted in automotive window rubber. I also worked with several types of window material. The only thing that met my expectations was glass. Lexan was the worst since scratches would appear as soon as you wash it. Good luck.

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mrfiero MAR 08, 08:37 PM

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Originally posted by skitime:


If you try that I would suggest doing it on a spare trunk lid. There is way too much work on that one. If you can perfect it then try to transfer it to the original one. I had tried several different methods of mounting such as underneath, flush and mounted in automotive window rubber. I also worked with several types of window material. The only thing that met my expectations was glass. Lexan was the worst since scratches would appear as soon as you wash it. Good luck.


In all honesty, this is way down on the list of things to do (and I may never actually do anything). I just don't like how raised the glass is in comparison to the decklid. I can see and understand the difficulties of doing it differently though. BTW....I have no interest in using lexan. I like the glass, just wish it sat more flush with the decklid.

One of the pictures I found of your car from back in the day showed it with the glass flush with the decklid (or at least it appeared to be flush). I know that Robert removed the glass to install a new gasket/seal. I sort of assumed he did something different on the install, but I may be mistaken. Do you have any good close-up pictures of the decklid & the glass from when you owned the car? It would help me tremendously.

As a side note....I had a small coolant leak (loose hose) and while I fixed the leak, I haven't refilled it with coolant yet. Did you use something "special" or just your standard green stuff?
skitime MAR 08, 09:05 PM

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Originally posted by mrfiero:

In all honesty, this is way down on the list of things to do (and I may never actually do anything). I just don't like how raised the glass is in comparison to the decklid. I can see and understand the difficulties of doing it differently though. BTW....I have no interest in using lexan. I like the glass, just wish it sat more flush with the decklid.

One of the pictures I found of your car from back in the day showed it with the glass flush with the decklid (or at least it appeared to be flush). I know that Robert removed the glass to install a new gasket/seal. I sort of assumed he did something different on the install, but I may be mistaken. Do you have any good close-up pictures of the decklid & the glass from when you owned the car? It would help me tremendously.

As a side note....I had a small coolant leak (loose hose) and while I fixed the leak, I haven't refilled it with coolant yet. Did you use something "special" or just your standard green stuff?





The glass is cut to be about 1/2" larger than the opening. It sets onto the painted surface with windshield adhesive. So flush is not possible with that glass. I am sure Robert would if re-applied the glass the way I had it but might not of done as clean of job I had it.


You might of seen a picture with lexan or plexiglass which I did try flush. Problem with that was heat would warp the lexan out of the adhesive.

Here is an early picture with a rubber gasket. I did not like the bulky look.


Here is an early picture with plexiglass flush mounted with silicone.


Coolant was just green Prestone if I remember correctly.

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American Exotic NOV 16, 12:12 AM
SkiTime, what kind of vent is that on the rear deck lid? I ended up going to some car shows towards the end of the season when very hot outside and wouldn't mind a little more engine ventilation. That looks tastefully done like it's supposed to be there. Or if anyone has anything that looks just as good, please share. Thanks
Spadesluck NOV 16, 10:01 AM
Skitime, not something I would do to my car but it does look really nice.

American Exotic, I would do what was already suggested and find a spare trunk lid and mess with that one. Just in case something goes wrong. For venting others use mustang hood scoops for the rear deck lids. Not many have done a "viewing" are on their deck lids.

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Dennis LaGrua NOV 16, 11:44 AM

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Originally posted by American Exotic:

SkiTime, what kind of vent is that on the rear deck lid? I ended up going to some car shows towards the end of the season when very hot outside and wouldn't mind a little more engine ventilation. That looks tastefully done like it's supposed to be there. Or if anyone has anything that looks just as good, please share. Thanks


Dave doesn't post here very often as he is out of the Fiero hobby. He certainly is a master craftsman .Last I spoke with him at Carlisle he told me those custom vents were made from piecing together parts from the Fiero side vents. Since they might contain magnesium, they can't be welded but Dave said that he used JB weld to hold them together. I found this hard to believe but that's what he told me. If the side vents are aluminum then I can see sections being braze welded or aluminum soldered together. Dave was a shop teacher at a local school and probably had lots of resources available to do custom work.


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American Exotic NOV 16, 05:01 PM
If he put that together with JB Weld, WOW, is all I have to say. It was put together extremely well if that is true. It is hard to believe but definately possible. I Did already make the viewing deck lid and I Love it. The reason I'm looking for more venting is I installed one over the roof scoop on the passenger side. The ventilation that I'm losing, I believe will be gained if I install something similar to Skitimes vent. If you look on the underside of the decklid, it almost looks like Pontiac was thinking of installing something in that excact spot. It's a perfect smaller area easy to cut out and modify. The hunt goes on, Thanks.
A_Pegasi NOV 18, 05:56 PM
You could also do this engine under glass conversion.



And this is what the underside of the hatch looks like.




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Originally posted by American Exotic:

Hi, does anyone have any direction on installing a see thru deck lid to expose the motor. I've always loved the Ferrari look and it saves me from opening the deck lid during car shows. My motor is always nice and shiny so why not keep it so the world can see. Seems to be time consuming but not too difficult. I'd like to see if anyone has any experience on this from the first cut to installing the Lexan , and if you had any issues after the install. Please let me know and if anyone has pics , add them if possisible. Most likely going to try this before car show season arrives. Thanks