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Mr Ferrari
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MAY 14, 10:28 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by darkhorizon:
The power numbers you found on the dyno, are VERY typical numbers for that setup. I am just saying that the times are VERY far from typical on that horsepower.
I have a good feeling that there are no tricks that are giving extra horsepower. The trans probably doesnt have any tricks in it either, other than possibly a locked converter? The GMR diff doesnt do anything to help...
To get those 1/4 numbers in my car, justins car, and a handful of my friends cars in the high 10s, it took at least middle 400whp, at less weight than your car.
My GTP put down a bit under 200whp more than you at 515 on a mustang dyno, and in a 3600lb car I struggled to run mid 11's at 123mph. (there, not my friends car!) |
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I am curious, Is anyone hitting 11.3 with the mods Don has done? Is anyone hitting 11.3 and trapping 118 mph in the 1/4 with 320 rwhp in a Fiero? I bet he made considerably less power than your car and it was still quicker.. I see you ran 11.6@120 and you should be in the low low 11's with that trap, What's the problem? The question is not "why am I so fast" but rather
"why are you so slow"? 
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Pyrthian
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MAY 14, 10:38 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by Mr Ferrari:
I am curious, Is anyone hitting 11.3 with the mods Don has done? Is anyone hitting 11.3 and trapping 118 mph in the 1/4 with 320 rwhp in a Fiero? I bet he made considerably less power than your car and it was still quicker.. I see you ran 11.6@120 and you should be in the low low 11's with that trap, What's the problem? The question is not "why am I so fast" but rather
"why are you so slow"?
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Don had a pretty slick drag setup as well.
good rear tires, narrow fronts, and, much more weight reduction
just guessing on the weight reduction tho - but - I expect that is where alot is hiding. after all - we are looking at 0.3 seconds
that is about 300 pounds
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Blacktree
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MAY 14, 10:38 AM
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If this thread gets trashed, I'm gonna be PISSED! 
DH, you need to take the drama somewhere else.[This message has been edited by Blacktree (edited 05-14-2010).]
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Mr Ferrari
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MAY 14, 10:53 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by Steve25:
Anyone care to crunch some numbers?
MPH = 234 (hp/weight)1/3 and ET = 5.825 (weight/hp)1/3
Solving for a 3000 lb car and 320 HP = 12.282 ET @ 111.057 MPH
Please check my math I have been known to make mistakes.
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Exactly..
I knew Dons car ran low 11's and when Don told me the car made 320rwhp I thought the numbers were off as well, but he was right..
It is a very very well known fact Don ran 11.3 with this car making 320rwhp..------------------
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LFiero67
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MAY 14, 11:04 AM
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I made around 330 uncorrected at the wheels on a Mustang Dyno and ran 11.42 and have done 117.x MPH at 3050lbs, so I don't see Don's old times out of the question. His 60' was slightly better than mine ( I ran 1.54, I think he ran 1.4x). Also my ZZP convertor was slipping 11% through the traps, so My MPH probably sufffered. Add 40 HP to that and 10's are definately possible, especially if the Aldino weighs under 3000lbs with some weight reduction, and a better convertor will definitely increase MPH. I have never removed any weight from my car at the track. I run it how I run it on the street. I have never even taken out the passenger seat. I could pretty easily be down to around 2800 lbs at the track if I really wanted to.
Anyway, this could probably be moved to another thread, this list is too good to screw up. If DH wants to continue the arguement, mabey he should start a new thread.
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I guess I missed that he was claiming 128 mph... I believe the time is possible with a M90, as Zooomers car has run into the tens at around 3000 lbs. But I don't think anybody is going to make 128mph with an M90 only without huge weight reduction. However in this case it looks like the owner "Mr. Ferrari" is a complete BS artist, too bad, as I was hoping someone would run tens M90 powered. I am hoping to do so, maybe even later this year...
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Best 60' 1.543 seconds
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darkhorizon
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MAY 14, 11:10 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by Blacktree:
If this thread gets trashed, I'm gonna be PISSED!
DH, you need to take the drama somewhere else.
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I am not trying to make drama... Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.
| quote | I am curious, Is anyone hitting 11.3 with the mods Don has done? Is anyone hitting 11.3 and trapping 118 mph in the 1/4 with 320 rwhp in a Fiero? I bet he made considerably less power than your car and it was still quicker.. I see you ran 11.6@120 and you should be in the low low 11's with that trap, What's the problem? The question is not "why am I so fast" but rather
"why are you so slow"?
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Not really anyone is in that range. With 360whp or so, a few have done the 11.3 thing with a solid launch, or a moderate launch and a solid backend, full weight fieros. High 300whp FWD's in the 3000-3100lb range are also in that low 11 at 120 range with solid launches.
I know how fast my car is, the only reason I had issues with those times in my signature are because of my brakes (recently fixed), causing me to get 1.9+ 60fts. I have only made a small amount of passes at the track with my car.
Right now I am in the range of trapping 127, but this is on 21psi of boost, and 420-440whp (or more). I made about 285-290whp with my nitrous setup, which went a whopping 12 flat with a mild launch... I dont see an extra 20-30whp pushing me into the low 11s, and I knew my transmission setup was VERY efficient back then as well. (tight converter, good launches, no slipping).
Running the times you did with that setup, is breaking every law of physics here mathematically. Like I said before, I really do not see you making any more power than any other similarly setup car. 340-350whp out of a setup as mild as don's is very respectable, but it does not mean you are the first 3000+ car to run a 10 with a m90.. There have been a few 400+whp setups that struggled to get there at 2700lbs...a few m90+nitrous setups that struggled to run high 10s as well.
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Mr Ferrari
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MAY 14, 01:19 PM
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AkursedX
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MAY 14, 01:20 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Mr Ferrari:
This is my start to the year.. The cars previous best was last fall with a 10.9.. Don Kraus ran consistant low 11's with this car before..
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You are a LIAR. Here's a link to the EXACT same timeslip run by a 2010 Camaro supercharged. http://www.camaro5.com/foru....php?t=21013&page=16
And here's the video of him running that time! http://s395.photobucket.com...rrent=camaro1082.flv
Sorry for posting this in your thread blacktree, but I felt it needed to be here. Could you also remove that time from the list?
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Sphynx
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MAY 14, 02:28 PM
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Not to mention that Cordova Dragway is in Illinois. Would you really drive 350 miles to go to a 1/4 mile strip?
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FastIndyFiero
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MAY 14, 02:28 PM
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Ouch. When will people learn that the internet is a very small world for being so big. A+ for effort, Mr. Ferrari.
F- for using a timeslip that had a video of a different car making the run.
Good call on the drama, DH.
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