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FIER086 JUL 27, 04:48 PM
It would be awesome if some people at the show could take a video of the lenses and record you answering questions and have it uploaded here or youtube? I am sure there will be lots of photos taken of these but a video would be cool too. Keep up the good work! Wish I could be there to see them. If they are as promised I will be placing an order!
kgoodyear JUL 27, 05:03 PM

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Originally posted by FIER086:

It would be awesome if some people at the show could take a video of the lenses and record you answering questions and have it uploaded here or youtube? I am sure there will be lots of photos taken of these but a video would be cool too. Keep up the good work! Wish I could be there to see them. If they are as promised I will be placing an order!



We wiil definitely have the prototypes there. We had a meeting today and the tool maker is going to be bringing the T1s to the show if/when they come in. He is going to stick around to answer questions and talk about tinting--something that really need attention.

I have no doubt about the quality of the product and the design. No way I'm putting this kind of capital and time into a project and not have it be the best! Besides I don't see Frugal Fiero Fans settling for anything but JUST RIGHT!

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Thunderstruck GT JUL 29, 05:48 PM
George is kicking some serious bootay!
JohnWPB JUL 29, 09:56 PM

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Originally posted by kgoodyear:


We wiil definitely have the prototypes there. We had a meeting today and the tool maker is going to be bringing the T1s to the show if/when they come in. He is going to stick around to answer questions and talk about tinting--something that really need attention.




Wow! Glad to hear it!

If at all possible, I would love to do an interview with you and the tool maker. I will edit it and put it on YouTube for everyone to see. I will have professional video & audio equipment with me, as well as a DSLR for high resolution still frames. I can also give you / your team a copy as well.

If this is Ok with you, drop me an email with your contact information (that I will NOT share with anyone for any reason). My email is johnwpb (at) the gmail dot com domain.

I should be there Thursday evening, and we can set up a quiet place to do the interview sometime. I would prefer that than trying to do it in a loud car show environment. Also any background music that would be recorded doing an interview at the show would flag the YouTube copyright filters automatically. I will take "B" roll footage of the tail lights at the show and people checking them out to edit into the final video.
Thunderstruck GT JUL 30, 12:41 AM
LOL!

George must be getting people nervous.

It was nearly impossible to see 1 or 2 NOS tail lamp lenses for sale in a year.

Now 2 popped up in one day!

Well played George..... Well played.
kgoodyear JUL 30, 08:53 AM

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Originally posted by Thunderstruck GT:

LOL!

George must be getting people nervous.

It was nearly impossible to see 1 or 2 NOS tail lamp lenses for sale in a year.

Now 2 popped up in one day!

Well played George..... Well played.




Thunder, I've been wondering when that was goign to happen. I would suppose for competitions one might need the DOT number on it.
kgoodyear JUL 30, 09:11 AM

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Originally posted by JohnWPB:


Wow! Glad to hear it!

If at all possible, I would love to do an interview with you and the tool maker. I will edit it and put it on YouTube for everyone to see. I will have professional video & audio equipment with me, as well as a DSLR for high resolution still frames. I can also give you / your team a copy as well.

If this is Ok with you, drop me an email with your contact information (that I will NOT share with anyone for any reason). My email is johnwpb (at) the gmail dot com domain.

I should be there Thursday evening, and we can set up a quiet place to do the interview sometime. I would prefer that than trying to do it in a loud car show environment. Also any background music that would be recorded doing an interview at the show would flag the YouTube copyright filters automatically. I will take "B" roll footage of the tail lights at the show and people checking them out to edit into the final video.



I see no reason why we couldn''t do this. We still don't know if the T1s are going to make it but it does look promising. The day after the T1s arrive is when the stateside tool maker will be coming. Let me see what i can find out and i will email at your address.

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Jonathan Tate AUG 03, 04:21 PM

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Originally posted by kgoodyear:
Thunder, I've been wondering when that was goign to happen. I would suppose for competitions one might need the DOT number on it.



Here is another good reason one "might" need the DOT number; It is illegal to use tail light lenses on public roads that are not DOT approved. You can be cited by a law enforcement officer and in some states you MUST correct the issue before operating the vehicle on public roads or you may have your registration revoked often called a "fix-it" ticket .

The DOT number is NOT just a number it is a certification that the lens has met the legal requirements of The United States Department of Transportation, each number that is listed in parenthesis on the light clearly relates to each of the specific certifications as required by Federal law.

https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/p...-vol5-sec571-108.xml


I am all for this project and I could use a set of these replacement lights as mine are cosmetically damaged, however these reproductions can in no way compare to the original Tail Lights. The OEM units were engineered and designed by GM with all of its resources to meet all DOT standards and I will add also far more costly to manufacture. Mine have lasted over 30 years and endured over 196,000 miles of normal use and although they have DE-laminated in places they still work just fine and are legal. I know in California they still inspect for them.

kgoodyear AUG 03, 04:49 PM

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Originally posted by Jonathan Tate:


Here is another good reason one "might" need the DOT number; It is illegal to use tail light lenses on public roads that are not DOT approved. You can be cited by a law enforcement officer and in some states you MUST correct the issue before operating the vehicle on public roads or you may have your registration revoked often called a "fix-it" ticket .

The DOT number is NOT just a number it is a certification that the lens has met the legal requirements of The United States Department of Transportation, each number that is listed in parenthesis on the light clearly relates to each of the specific certifications as required by Federal law.

https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/p...-vol5-sec571-108.xml


I am all for this project and I could use a set of these replacement lights as mine are cosmetically damaged, however these reproductions can in no way compare to the original Tail Lights. The OEM units were engineered and designed by GM with all of its resources to meet all DOT standards and I will add also far more costly to manufacture. Mine have lasted over 30 years and endured over 196,000 miles of normal use and although they have DE-laminated in places they still work just fine and are legal. I know in California they still inspect for them.



These lenses, as mentioned before, again and again, are sold only in pairs and are meant for off road use only. Whether you choose to buy them and whether you choose to replace them is totally up to the car's owner.

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The beauty of a solution lies in its simplicity

JohnWPB AUG 03, 04:49 PM

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Originally posted by Jonathan Tate:


Here is another good reason one "might" need the DOT number; It is illegal to use tail light lenses on public roads that are not DOT approved.



Did Ogre put you up to this? All kidding aside, I do agree that DOT approval is a requirement for car manufacturers and the like to have something certified street legal. That being said, as long as when these tail lights are sold, they are marketed as "off road use only" this covers the manufacturer. This places the responsibility on the purchaser. 99% of us are absolutely fine with that. I know I am!

Walk into any part store and look around at the lights, mirrors, fins, trim, scoops ect ect. Most of them will clearly say on the package "For off road use only".

The way I look at it, if I install these tail lights on my car, I can not fathom being pulled over just for the sole intention for a cop to poke around and try to find a DOT number LOL!

As for not being as good as the original ones from GM, I do not see how you can say that before these are even for sale, or you have inspected them. I know my OEM lenses I have in storage, are quite wavy. If you look down the length of them, they are far from perfect. The lettering is also not perfect around the edges and such. These are both issues that have been addressed with the new lenses. Sure GM had the resources, but they pumped out 10's of thousands from multiple molds. Every attention to detail is being addressed with the new ones and they are being produced in an ultra low batch compared to the originals.

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