Preparing my Fiero for an engine swap (Page 15/23)
pmbrunelle APR 21, 12:30 AM
Canada Post delivered our Princess Auto order today... it just took a while.

[This message has been edited by pmbrunelle (edited 04-21-2020).]

longjonsilver APR 21, 08:09 AM
Well, i'm gonna try a cuppla things before i spring for an impact wrench. i have till Apr 30 to buy at that price, and i guess i can always order online for delivery if the local store is out. i'm getting up a shopping list for my engine - gaskets, coils, waterpump, timing chain. i notice that things are a lot cheaper at Autozone in the states than at Napa here in NS - even doing the math for the US$ conversion. Plus we will be going thru two states that have no sales tax - (on our way to a wedding) No tax at the border, so its really better to buy in the states. Autozone is my favorite parts store by the way. i will be able to send my shopping list to NHampshire and they will have it ready for me when i arrive. i do wonder tho, why the fuel injector rebuild kits aren't available there any longer. Its not like no one has these L67 engines anymore.

i guess another thing is that the alternator is seized up on the 3800 - and so i either have to fix it - will a bearing kit fix it? Dunno until i tear it down. If i use Freyaz Duke alternator, i will have to change the pulley. So many decisions - i'm sure that youtube will have a video on how to change pulleys.

jon

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Astronomy says we will find a coded signal from outer space. Then we'll KNOW that life exists there, for coded signals aren't by chance.

Biology says there are coded genetic signals in every cell, but we KNOW that no intelligence created life.

I'm the original owner of a white ' 84 2M4 purchased Dec 10, 1983 from Pontiac. Always garaged, no rust, 4-wheel drifts are fun!

ignorant prodigy APR 21, 08:51 AM
I got the injector stuff from ebay. comes in packs of 8 so you get two extra. less than $20 shipped for all the o-rings, pintle caps and filters.
that was a couple years ago though.
longjonsilver APR 21, 11:40 AM

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Originally posted by ignorant prodigy:
I got the injector stuff from ebay.



so i assume that you are happy with the quality after a cuppla years.

jon

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Astronomy says we will find a coded signal from outer space. Then we'll KNOW that life exists there, for coded signals aren't by chance.

Biology says there are coded genetic signals in every cell, but we KNOW that no intelligence created life.

I'm the original owner of a white ' 84 2M4 purchased Dec 10, 1983 from Pontiac. Always garaged, no rust, 4-wheel drifts are fun!

ignorant prodigy APR 21, 12:35 PM
well.. it's hardly ran for those years so I can't really speak on the durability.
but sure, they seemed fine. for $20 you can't go wrong really. The more I read about "flow matching" used injectors the more I realized it was just worth it to clean and maintain the stock ones.

they're good for about a 3.2" pulley anyways.. much smaller than that I'd have to upgrade
longjonsilver APR 21, 05:05 PM
Thanks for the tip on looking on ebay. Autozone wanted a lot of money for the gaskets for the engine - on Ebay i found ZZperformance had then significantly cheaper, and then on their website, cheaper still. The have the o rings too. And the ZZP coils were a lot cheaper than Autozone, and possibly better quality. Whatcha think about the quality of ZZP gaskets compared to felpro?
jon

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Astronomy says we will find a coded signal from outer space. Then we'll KNOW that life exists there, for coded signals aren't by chance.

Biology says there are coded genetic signals in every cell, but we KNOW that no intelligence created life.

I'm the original owner of a white ' 84 2M4 purchased Dec 10, 1983 from Pontiac. Always garaged, no rust, 4-wheel drifts are fun!

longjonsilver APR 22, 05:42 AM
N then doing some more reading, i realize that new (or rebuilt) injectors are not that expensive, and might be worth springing for them to prevent problems upon startup. My alternator is not only seized up, the case is cracked and therefore unusable for a core, and unworthy to be rebuilt. So i guess i use the alternator off the Duke. ZZP seems to be emerging as the lowest cost solution to a whole bunch of problems. Their rating on eBay is one of the highest that i have seen. The ZZP coils are cheaper than they are at Autozone, and the red ones look real cool.

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Astronomy says we will find a coded signal from outer space. Then we'll KNOW that life exists there, for coded signals aren't by chance.

Biology says there are coded genetic signals in every cell, but we KNOW that no intelligence created life.

I'm the original owner of a white ' 84 2M4 purchased Dec 10, 1983 from Pontiac. Always garaged, no rust, 4-wheel drifts are fun!

longjonsilver APR 25, 06:50 PM
Look what came out all covered in ATF and acetone:


Gives me enuf confidence to (maybe) remove my exhaust bolts. Been soaking them in ATF and acetone everyday for weeks now. Used a 1/2" socket 1/2" drive, rachet at half mast, and i removed 2 bolts. More ATF and acetone and 10 more to go.

jon

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Astronomy says we will find a coded signal from outer space. Then we'll KNOW that life exists there, for coded signals aren't by chance.

Biology says there are coded genetic signals in every cell, but we KNOW that no intelligence created life.

I'm the original owner of a white ' 84 2M4 purchased Dec 10, 1983 from Pontiac. Always garaged, no rust, 4-wheel drifts are fun!

pmbrunelle APR 25, 10:33 PM
Crankshaft bolt? Did you use the Princess Auto impact wrench for that?
longjonsilver APR 26, 05:11 AM

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Originally posted by pmbrunelle:

Crankshaft bolt? Did you use the Princess Auto impact wrench for that?



Yup, crankshaft bolt! No, i didn't buy the impact at Princess Auto, the sale was on till Apr 30 so i just poured ATF and acetone into it several times a day and used my 1/2" Makita several times a day to rattle it around. Then i prayed, and just after praying it started to actually turn, then zipped out. i am beginning to believe what a guy on Youtube said that the C in the acetone displaced the O in the rust and created ferric carbonate - a brittle substance. Maybe next week i will see if some of the other bolts will turn on the exhaust manifold. i began to think about what you were saying and since i plan to buy a gasket kit from ZZP that includes the manifold gaskets, if i am careful and work slowly (i was in a hurry to remove the rest of the tailpipe from the manifold and now i have to pay the price and drill them out.

N, digging around on the web i learned about Alum - available at Bulk Barn. Alum will destroy steel, but leave the aluminum alone.


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Alum in the form of potassium aluminium sulphate or ammonium aluminium sulfate in a concentrated bath of hot water is regularly used by jewelers and machinists to dissolve hardened steel drill bits that have broken off in items made of aluminum, copper, brass, gold (any karat) and silver (both sterling and fine). This is because alum does not react chemically to any significant degree with any of these metals, but will corrode steel. When heat is applied to an alum mixture holding a piece of work that has a drill bit stuck in it, if the lost bit is small enough, it can sometimes be dissolved / removed within hours.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alum

i have some bolts stuck in my supercharger - the ones that hold the accessory rack on - which are not thru the supercharger into the intake manifold, but rather end in the supercharger, so i can remove the supercharger (soaking those bolts everyday too) and deal with the stuck bolts. Their heads rounded off - i am not happy with the quality of many fasteners on the 3800 and have found that some of them round off cuz they are best fit with an SAE socket rather than a metric - that's why i say that there is a mix of fasteners on the motor. Thats why i am using a 1/2" socket on the exhaust manifold bolts - just fits better than 13mm. Now i know why Canadian Tire oftentimes includes both in their sets.

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Astronomy says we will find a coded signal from outer space. Then we'll KNOW that life exists there, for coded signals aren't by chance.

Biology says there are coded genetic signals in every cell, but we KNOW that no intelligence created life.

I'm the original owner of a white ' 84 2M4 purchased Dec 10, 1983 from Pontiac. Always garaged, no rust, 4-wheel drifts are fun!