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How to remove inner door panels, with pics. by fierohoho
Started on: 10-30-2002 01:54 PM
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Report this Post10-30-2002 01:54 PM Click Here to See the Profile for fierohohoClick Here to Email fierohohoSend a Private Message to fierohohoEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

As I recently replaced my dew wipe I had the door apart so I took a ton of pics.

What I offer here is for the new Fiero owners who want to do the work themselves.

I welcome any comments from others to help cover any mistakes I make or to offer an easier way for the beginer to do this.

The pics are from my '84 with power windows, locks and mirrors.

I will try to add a pic later on the easy way to remove the manual window crank.

First use a small flat blade screwdriver to remove the covers over the two philips head screws.

Next you need to remove the button from the lock rod, this can be done by gently pulling the case away from the door panel and using a small flat blade screwdriver pry the button away from the lock rod at the rear.

Now pull the door handle out and work the case off over the handle. If you don't have power locks that's it, if you do you now need to unplug the wiring from the case, do this by gently bending the two lock tabs away from the plug and then pry the plug up off the pins, it may help to have a friend help you with this as three hands make it easier.

More to come...

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Report this Post10-30-2002 02:04 PM Click Here to See the Profile for fierohohoClick Here to Email fierohohoSend a Private Message to fierohohoEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

Now to remove the arm rest first use a small flat blade screwdriver to pop out the screw cover.



Then remove the three philips head screws from the arm rest, these are fairly big so use a bigger screw driver.





Lastly, using a tool like pictured or anything suitable pry out the "christmas tree" push pins that attach the panel to the door itself, take your time and use the tool to feel around the edge for the pins, there is also one fastener just behind the door handle through that opening.



There are a total of 9 fasteners on the door panel, this pic shows their location. Don't go at these too hard as they are held to the door by little tabs and it doesn't take much to trash the hole in the door panel where they mount.




One other thing, if you have manual mirrors there is a small allen head set screw that holds the adjuster inside the small housing mounted to the door panel, loosen this and it should push through with no problems.

Also see my follow up post "How to remove outer door panel, with pics"

Hope this helps, Wrench On dudes, HoHo

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Report this Post10-30-2002 04:24 PM Click Here to See the Profile for liltobeClick Here to Email liltobeSend a Private Message to liltobeEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

fierohoho, do you think you could post how to replace dew wipes with pics if you have em? That would be AWESOME. I took off my door panels to do the door locks, and I also have to do the dew wipes. you have to take the outer door panel to do the wipes, right? Thanks man, -Andre

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Report this Post10-30-2002 04:42 PM Click Here to See the Profile for CarrollesClick Here to Email CarrollesSend a Private Message to CarrollesEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

No need to remove the outer door panel to replace the outer dew wipe strips.

Rodney Dickman sells a pretty neat tool to get the screws out. See it at:

rodneydickman.com

under the tools tab.

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Report this Post10-31-2002 03:20 AM Click Here to See the Profile for fierohohoClick Here to Email fierohohoSend a Private Message to fierohohoEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

I plan on doing another thread on removing the outer door skin soon, I will try to incorporate doing the dew wipe with pics in that one. I found it's a little easier to do the wipes with the skin off, it's also a good time to clean and regrease the lock mechanism which frees up any sticky power locks.

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Report this Post10-31-2002 02:06 PM Click Here to See the Profile for rogergarrisonClick Here to Email rogergarrisonSend a Private Message to rogergarrisonEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

I just replace both new wipes on an 89 GTA restoration job. What a pain in the azz. GM shoulda made a little flange so you could just stick a screwdriver in pointed downward to take out the screws after holding the rubber out slightly.

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Report this Post11-01-2002 03:53 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Daniel87GTSend a Private Message to Daniel87GTEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

 
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I just replace both new wipes on an 89 GTA restoration job. [snip]

Excuse me? What was that you said? It's not that I don't believe you, but perhaps you could shed some digital photography on any particular issues you ran into? Or just some picks to show what exactly you are working on?

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Report this Post11-01-2002 04:08 PM Click Here to See the Profile for fierohohoClick Here to Email fierohohoSend a Private Message to fierohohoEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

Just an addition to the manual mirror removal and the manual window crank handle removal.

To remove the control cable from the housing use a small allen wrench to loosen the set screw on the window side and the control head will slide through.

To remove a manual window handle you need to make a small hook out of a piece of wire or a paper clip, then just reach behind the handle as shown and hook the "c" clip and pull it off, you should then be able to wiggle the handle loose.

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Originally posted by Daniel87GT:
Excuse me? What was that you said? It's not that I don't believe you, but perhaps you could shed some digital photography on any particular issues you ran into? Or just some picks to show what exactly you are working on?

Oh boy. HoHo look what you started, now everyone is going to want great pictures of everything done.
"I had my tires changed today" "Did you take pics?"
"I went to start my car today" "Did you take pics?"

And it only gets worse....
"I scratched my..."
"Honey what did you do while I was out?"

Come on, your making us look bad here.

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Report this Post11-01-2002 04:48 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Daniel87GTSend a Private Message to Daniel87GTEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

 
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Originally posted by andguent:
Oh boy. HoHo look what you started, now everyone is going to want great pictures of everything done.[cut]

EXCUSE ME! Perhaps I was being a little too subtle for you. I think that what Fierohoho is doing is great. It lets people that have not done their dew wipes before have some visual instructions available to go with the ton of written stuff out there. Keep it up hoho. My reply was directed at roger garrison who claimed to be doing his dew wipes on an 89 GTP. What I was kindly trying to say was, you're working on an 89 GTP? Prove it. Pictures?

I've done my dew wipes before. I wanted pictures of this 89 GTP he claims to be working on.

Jerk.

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Report this Post11-01-2002 07:14 PM Click Here to See the Profile for andguentClick Here to visit andguent's HomePageClick Here to Email andguentSend a Private Message to andguentEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

I apologize if my joke was not as funny as I would have liked it to be. It was nothing against you.

If I am a jerk, thats fine. Sorry.

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Report this Post11-01-2002 10:15 PM Click Here to See the Profile for MOBILEClick Here to Email MOBILESend a Private Message to MOBILEEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

Daniel87GT: Read it again. He said a GTA which is NOT a 89 Fiero GTP!!

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(bump) Great post! Very informative!

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Report this Post01-21-2003 12:50 PM Click Here to See the Profile for TweekClick Here to Email TweekSend a Private Message to TweekEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

You can buy a tool for removing the manual window handles fairly cheaply... AND it also works great for removing the "christmas tree" puch pins that hold the inner dool panel in place.

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Report this Post04-26-2003 07:29 PM Click Here to See the Profile for JD86GT350Send a Private Message to JD86GT350Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

Thanks to fierohoho, this saved my sanity this afternoon

 
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To remove a manual window handle you need to make a small hook out of a piece of wire or a paper clip, then just reach behind the handle as shown and hook the "c" clip and pull it off, you should then be able to wiggle the handle loose.

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(bump) Great post! Very informative!
(Thanks again for creating this thread, I'm going to need to do this soon)

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Report this Post02-16-2014 08:48 AM Click Here to See the Profile for notwohornsClick Here to Email notwohornsSend a Private Message to notwohornsEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

I have a question. Behind the inner door handle there is a black plastic "plate" or "shield" about the size of the door handle that covers the view to the inner door (I don't know what it is called). How is that installed? When I removed my inner door panel it just came off and I did't see how it was attached. Thanks

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Report this Post02-20-2014 03:40 PM Click Here to See the Profile for fierohohoClick Here to Email fierohohoSend a Private Message to fierohohoEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

If you look at the very first picture you can see where it sits just to the upper left of my knuckle and behind the door latch handle, it mounts to the handle mechanism and is installed before the outer surround goes on.

It does not attach very securely to the handle mechanism.

The outer case sits over it and it does not attach to that.

Hope that helps.

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Report this Post06-09-2014 10:56 PM Click Here to See the Profile for kendallvilleSend a Private Message to kendallvilleEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

 
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Originally posted by fierohoho:


Stupid question how do you put that back on?

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Report this Post06-09-2014 11:19 PM Click Here to See the Profile for fierogtlt1Click Here to Email fierogtlt1Send a Private Message to fierogtlt1Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

You could always go to a local auto parts store or harbor freight store and get this cheap tool.

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Stupid question how do you put that back on?


Simply snap the clip back in as seen in the picture and then press the crank back on the door. It will snap into place.

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Report this Post03-23-2015 08:58 PM Click Here to See the Profile for PacNWFieroSend a Private Message to PacNWFieroEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

Does anyone know if this way of taking the door apart lets you replace the interior door handle?

I have an interior handle on the driver's side that recently snapped in half and I am looking to replace it.

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Report this Post03-26-2015 11:37 AM Click Here to See the Profile for notwohornsClick Here to Email notwohornsSend a Private Message to notwohornsEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

yes, you get to the inner door handle while the inner door panel is off. If I remember right the inner door handle is held on with rivets

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