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Of Politics & Forums? by Boondawg
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Narrativist:
An individual who filters their experience of reality through a story-like internal structure (the inner narrative) which they shield from criticism using badfaith arguments and who further engages in compaction cycles (ritualized scapegoating). Narrativists often select their leadership based entirely upon whom they perceive as presenting the most credible threat to "The Enemy". Everything that doesn't compose to their belief that their chosen leader is going to lead them into smashing The Enemy is simply discarded, resulting in them ignoring large chunks of reality.

Narrative Dysphoria:
The cognitive dissonance experienced by a Narrativist when observable reality directly contradicts the predictions of their inner narrative. All of reality is interpreted through the storylike filter of the inner narrative. When real world events directly contradict the expectations generated by the inner narrative, the Narrativist experiences cognitive dissonance as a result. The Narrativist is psychologically compelled to resolve this conflict between observable reality and their inner narrative, and in so doing they are forced to choose between their desired beliefs (which are tied into their sense of identity) or reality. Very rarely does reality win this confrontation. An individual Narrativist will most frequently resolve this stress by selecting someone they know and labeling them as either incompetent/defective or in some way colluding with the enemy, and they will expel that person from their lives. When a Narrativist group experiences narrative dysphoria the group will collectively resolve the inner stress by selecting a member (or small group of members) of the group as a designated scapegoat and then expelling that member(s). The remaining members then become more radicalized as a result.

Narrativist Compaction Cycle:
The compaction cycle is a major factor in how Narrativist groups function and is the term for the unrecognized constant low level cycling of individual Narrativists through a variety of different Narrativist groups. The compaction cycle is of primary importance because it describes the trend towards radicalization in Narrativist groups, and even provides something of a barometer than can be used to approximate the general pace of and anticipate when a Narrativist group is about to radicalize. This cycle is also important because it is a major factor in how Narrativist groups build common ground with each other when they are looking for allies.

An average Narrativist group when not experiencing narrative dysphoria is a mixture of hard and soft members, much like many Multi-Level Marketing scams. "We welcome everyone and anybody can be a success if you just adhere to our Narrative!" They will accept anyone willing to pay lip service to the groups ideals and show up to meetings. When not under pressure or threatened, Narrativist groups are much more relaxed and make a conscious effort to be welcoming to outsiders (some of whom are then selectively groomed for admittance into the ever-present-in-Narrativist-organizations "inner circle").

All such groups when under pressure (particularly Narrative dysphoria) however, start to drive softer members out. Stress rises, tempers flare. Rhetoric becomes harsher, group identity becomes more important, aggressive members start to scrutinize for any perceived flaw in the tribe. Eventually someone (or a group of someones) finds themselves on the wrong side of an internal dispute. It could be that they are genuinely at fault, or not, but it doesn't really matter. In the end they were guilty of the sin of not spotting the group think searching for a scapegoat fast enough and as a result they became the scapegoat and are summarily driven out.

With the "softer" members compacted out, the remaining members are more radical overall. While the overall mass, or number of members has decreased, the remaining members are the ones who have proven themselves to be the most competent at falling in line and will prove less likely to disagree with the group think in the future.

Next the Narrativist group will enter a growth phase, and seek to add new "softer" members who will be welcomed in while a semi-secret inner circle not so publicly makes all the real decisions. This addition of new members will continue until the Narrativist group comes under pressure or is subjected to narrative dysphoria, at which point a new compaction cycle will form and another member (or potentially small group of members) will be made into scapegoats for the group's failures and cast out. The remaining members will become more extreme/radicalized, and will then seek to add new members to the group once again.

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You are a frucking whack-a-doodle. Cry about politics, blame others, leave, come back with a kind and gentle deceptive nature, smoke another ten bowls, recall days of yore when alcohol and lies ruled your Pennock's experience, secretly attempted to disrupt families, failed, set up some more bowling pins, and generally wasted your life from Kent to Nome. I am sure I am leaving something else that you ruined along the way. Give me a minute or two...

Edit: You, like threedog, think I am a radicalized individual. Sorry for your lack of understanding. Perhaps if I spent my life setting up pins, I too would still be a dope smoking loser. Instead, I am a non felonious individual that owns his own. **** .

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You should be forthcoming about the actual source of your post.

Prester Jane is not a psychologist.

Prester Jane isn't even an academic.

Prester Jane is a former mental patient and cult member that doesn't like President Trump.

Prester Jane has an OPINION

Opinions are not facts.

Prester Jane has a VERY BIZARRE history:

"Four years ago I had hit my personal rock bottom and was living in the mental health wing of a homeless shelter. I had been living for years in total denial of my mental illness and this had wreaked havoc on every aspect of my life. Having finally had my personal fill of my own schizophrenic delusions (and the destruction they had wrought on my life) I vowed to start over. Thankfully when I was finally ready to reach out I was lucky and found welcoming hands reaching back. Through a variety of both private and public programs I was able to obtain proper diagnosis/treatment for my mental illness.

Over the course of my treatment I began to write about my experiences growing up in a cult and how those experiences had impacted the way I had previously viewed the world. Eventually I began to publish some of these ideas behind a paywalled message board."

https://www.patreon.com/presterjane

"Prester Jane" isn't even a real name. It's some internet lunatic mocking the name "Prester John", better known as Presbyter Johannes

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Originally posted by Tony Kania:

You are a frucking whack-a-doodle. Cry about politics, blame others, leave, come back with a kind and gentle deceptive nature, smoke another ten bowls, recall days of yore when alcohol and lies ruled your Pennock's experience, secretly attempted to disrupt families, failed, set up some more bowling pins, and generally wasted your life from Kent to Nome. I am sure I am leaving something else that you ruined along the way. Give me a minute or two...

Edit: You, like threedog, think I am a radicalized individual. Sorry for your lack of understanding. Perhaps if I spent my life setting up pins, I too would still be a dope smoking loser. Instead, I am a non felonious individual that owns his own. **** .



You seem upset.
I never mentioned anyone.
It was a question.

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You should be forthcoming about the actual source of your post.

Prester Jane is not a psychologist.

Prester Jane isn't even an academic.

Prester Jane has an OPINION

Opinions are not facts.


I never claimed any of the above.

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Originally posted by Tony Kania:

You are a frucking whack-a-doodle. Cry about politics, blame others, leave, come back with a kind and gentle deceptive nature, smoke another ten bowls, recall days of yore when alcohol and lies ruled your Pennock's experience, secretly attempted to disrupt families, failed, set up some more bowling pins, and generally wasted your life from Kent to Nome. I am sure I am leaving something else that you ruined along the way. Give me a minute or two...

Edit: You, like threedog, think I am a radicalized individual. Sorry for your lack of understanding. Perhaps if I spent my life setting up pins, I too would still be a dope smoking loser. Instead, I am a non felonious individual that owns his own. **** .



Lmao.. Welcome back Boonie..

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I never claimed any of the above.


It's always the same tap dance with you.

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Sounds like accurate description of most of the mainstream media pundits.

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That reminds me very much of the rambling, excessively verbose style of one of our more odd members, who shall remain nameless.

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You seem upset.
I never mentioned anyone.
It was a question.




I am. Unlike so many demoncrats on this very forum, I do not seek out my enemies for harm. I speak freely here. I do not dox, swat, send feces, or any of the other **** shat you kids do these days.

You and Patrick should cuddle together. Whisper sweet nothings into each other's ears on a cold northern night. He can play forum Nazi, and you second fiddle. Heck, throw in some Ronald (take your pick of trolls named Ronald), and it is a tard party! Like I said in an earlier post, perhaps Cliff can DJ it? Swoosh!

Edit: I will be back in a few hours. Gotta do the real world now. The real world. Real world. (Frucking zombies!)

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Hahah... welcome back Boonie.

I assume this is supposed to elicit some reaction with the... "who, me?" response.

I don't ascribe to any of this. What I will say though, is that... FOR THE MOST PART, we (~80% of the country) all want the same thing for the United States... but we have different ways of achieving that goal.

We live in a truly binary world... some things work, some things don't. Things are night and day. Actions have re-actions. For me, the biggest one is socialism. Lots of people want that for the United States, but they fail to recognize that no country ever became great because of it. Any country that's presently socialist that isn't a total **** -hole, was first a capitalist society, and later became a socialist country. At that point, they've essentially maintained or gone slowly in decline. Countries that fully embraced Socialism in every facet they could, have fallen into substantial decline (there are MANY examples).

You will not see a single country that formed on the principles of Socialism, and then grew from a fledgling nation into a great one.


I don't think most Democrats want this either, which is why so many of them voted for Trump. But... the minority of any group seems to get the most voice in today's society. So we're all battling extremes...

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Originally posted by williegoat:

That reminds me very much of the rambling, excessively verbose style of one of our more odd members, who shall remain nameless.



Well, both of them have admitted to being psychiatric patients, so there's that.

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"...when a Narrativist group is about to radicalize. This cycle is also important because it is a major factor in how Narrativist groups build common ground with each other when they are looking for allies. "

Then.. inevitably there they go off into the blue yonder, narrating radically on the internet, together as allies.

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Originally posted by Tony Kania:

You are a frucking whack-a-doodle. Cry about politics, blame others, leave, come back with a kind and gentle deceptive nature, smoke another ten bowls, recall days of yore when alcohol and lies ruled your Pennock's experience, secretly attempted to disrupt families, failed, set up some more bowling pins, and generally wasted your life from Kent to Nome. I am sure I am leaving something else that you ruined along the way. Give me a minute or two...

Edit: You, like threedog, think I am a radicalized individual. Sorry for your lack of understanding. Perhaps if I spent my life setting up pins, I too would still be a dope smoking loser. Instead, I am a non felonious individual that owns his own. **** .



That's not very nice.

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Lol... someone negged me. Boonie??? I have you as a positive...

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Lol... someone negged me. Boonie??? I have you as a positive...


I did not negatively rate you.

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Originally posted by Tony Kania:

You are a frucking whack-a-doodle. Cry about politics, blame others, leave, come back with a kind and gentle deceptive nature, smoke another ten bowls, recall days of yore when alcohol and lies ruled your Pennock's experience, secretly attempted to disrupt families, failed, set up some more bowling pins, and generally wasted your life from Kent to Nome. I am sure I am leaving something else that you ruined along the way. Give me a minute or two...

Edit: You, like threedog, think I am a radicalized individual. Sorry for your lack of understanding. Perhaps if I spent my life setting up pins, I too would still be a dope smoking loser. Instead, I am a non felonious individual that owns his own. **** .



Wow, dude. Harsh.

Maybe switch to decaf?

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Well some things never change no matter how long I’ve been gone..

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