Please, if you know Eric (I'm sorry that I cannot ecall his lat name, but I believe his first name is Eric) you may know that he has posted manic posts like this in the past, and it has generally been followed by some medical intervention. Hopefully that is what is occuring right now. I would hope that he has a more efficient safety net then some people on the Internet, and that family and friends are seeing to his health, but I have been concerned.
So, does anyone have his phone number that can give us an update?
I thought I had his number but I may have lost it. I have his address and full name, but I don't know what that would do. I can try and get a hold of him if I find the number. IIRC, he put it on the letter he wrote me over a year back.
It's... strange. Watching his entire thought process expand over time, documented for all to see. Theres a light of brilliance in there somewhere, but I'm afraid the paranoid side may be winning if he isn't willing to take his medication (which he has discussed before).
Eric, you have people that are truly concerned with your wellbeing - myself included. Check in.
I read his post.. seems like just another rant to me and nothing 'serious'.
How do you define "serious"? I don't think his thoughts are centered on self harm at all, but people who are manic place themselves in situation that can lead to being at risk. If you think I am over reacting, I'll try to care less about people. God knows some people around here make it easy.
I thought I had his number but I may have lost it. I have his address and full name, but I don't know what that would do. I can try and get a hold of him if I find the number. IIRC, he put it on the letter he wrote me over a year back.
If you have his full name and home address, Google should be able to find his phone number.
How do you define "serious"? I don't think his thoughts are centered on self harm at all, but people who are manic place themselves in situation that can lead to being at risk. If you think I am over reacting, I'll try to care less about people. God knows some people around here make it easy.
Many many people live with being bi-polar. ( including my first wife. so i have been around it .. ) . i honestly didn't see anything that concerned me that he was 'at risk of doing bad things' and was just having a bad day. Its part of the deal, you have bad days and good days..
Not that i don't care, as most everyone here knows i do care about people, but i just didn't see cause for concern ..
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Many many people live with being bi-polar.. i honestly didn't see anything that concerned me that he was 'at risk of doing bad things' and was just having a bad day. Its part of the deal, you have bad days and good days..
Not that i don't care, as most everyone here knows i do care about people, but i just didn't see cause for concern ..
Nah, I'm not too worried he's harm himself or something lik ethat, but from the bipolar folks I've known, they don't always realize they've "gone manic-y" again, or they do some "bad" stuff during those periods...(stuff they later regret)
In my experience, they go through cycles, not just "good" or "bad" days...
Nah, I'm not too worried he's harm himself or something lik ethat, but from the bipolar folks I've known, they don't always realize they've "gone manic-y" again, or they do some "bad" stuff during those periods...(stuff they later regret)
In my experience, they go through cycles, not just "good" or "bad" days...
Sorry, i was being more generic with the good/bad days idea.. not trying to sound like I'm discounting it, as i know it can be difficult to live with it ( and for the people that live with you. )
If you have his address , you could call the law enforcement authorities or Adult Protective Services to do a welfare check. But I guess if it gets bad enough, we will just read about it in the news.
If you have his address , you could call the law enforcement authorities or Adult Protective Services to do a welfare check. But I guess if it gets bad enough, we will just read about it in the news.
I wouldn't suggest that for 2 reasons
1 - just an abstract post out on 'the internet' doesn't warrant their visit 2 - its invasive.. i know id be really angry if someone brought the authorities down on me.
Best bet is if anyone around here lives close, they drive over and say 'hi'.
I disagree. Among all on this forum, Jeff is the person most attune to recognizing when someone needs that type of attention. Didn't he mention a school he was attending a while back?
In one of his sigs, he is Eric Jacobsen and he is in New York. All I got so far. Not PM'ing this since I can't stay on to follow up.
...and it's pavo_roddy if we are using PFF search
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I don't know him in real life, he is just off of I-94 just inside the State Line from MN according to his city information in his profile prior to the "Same state as Gotham" status he has now.
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How do you define "serious"? I don't think his thoughts are centered on self harm at all, but people who are manic place themselves in situation that can lead to being at risk. If you think I am over reacting, I'll try to care less about people. God knows some people around here make it easy.
I totally understand your concern, and it's not unfounded. I have a family member who suffers from paranoid schizophrenia. It happens like clockwork once or twice a year. Sometimes, even though what he goes through doesn't have a purposeful intent to harm himself, he often does things that incidentally put himself at risk anyway...
Anyway, I think you're right...
And his last post did seem really out there. Remembering what the progression was like last time, this is nearly identical to what he went through last time.
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...then taking your clothes off in the middle of a park and knocking on the doors in a town-house community until you can find someone to have sex with you (and then being successful twice, apparently).
Yeah... well, that pretty much is the story. It sounds funny, but it really is sad. The poor kid is family, so I'll still help him out no matter what the situation is. But for him at least, he was completely "normal"... then slowly but surely... almost over a period of a couple weeks to a month he would start to develop a sense of paranoia, and distrust of his friends. He would get almost philosophical... asking lots of questions, and his whole personality changes. It's strange because almost just by looking at the guy, it's as if you're staring at a completely different person. Mannerisms change, the personality changes. This continues more and more... doing such things as getting a tattoo of an eye in the back of your neck so you can "watch your back"... and then suddenly he snaps, and he reaches what he feels is a sense of "enlightenment."
I can't really explain it, and I don't really even understand it myself. But basically, everything is great. He explains it as a great sense of joy... he basically has a really high high... if that makes sense. Nothing in the world can stop him, and he's on cloud 9. It's at this point that it seems he is his most dangerous because he has no sense of concern or fear. It's almost like he's living in a dreamland. His mind will race from thing to thing and he just does some off the wall stuff. I've experienced this from him on two seperate occasions, and with conversations from him, he explains it as everything just makes sense to him at that moment. He'll go on and on about stuff, and he can't understand why no one else follows him. It probably doesn't even make sense to him, but chemical imbalance in his head is probably telling him that it is.
Anyway, the "high" if you will, eventually ends... and is followed by an overwhelming great sense of regret and sorrow. So, obviously he remembers everything he did, even if he wasn't in hte "right mind" at the time he did them. And usually these things can be so damaging to relationships, that he's often too emberassed to call and ask for help (when he does come back to his senses).
I don't know if that's the same thing that Pavo might be going through... but it often sounds like it.
I totally understand your concern, and it's not unfounded. I have a family member who suffers from paranoid schizophrenia. It happens like clockwork once or twice a year. Sometimes, even though what he goes through doesn't have a purposeful intent to harm himself, he often does things that incidentally put himself at risk anyway... like giving your cousins bike away to the first kid you see, then taking your clothes off in the middle of a park and knocking on the doors in a town-house community until you can find someone to have sex with you (and then being successful twice, apparently).
Anyway, I think you're right...
And his last post did seem really out there. Remembering what the progression was like last time, this is nearly identical to what he went through last time.
Yeah... well, that pretty much is the story. It sounds funny, but it really is sad.
I wasn't meaning to diminish the seriousness of the fellow's condition (and I apologize if I came across that way), but I'm amazed that a naked man knocking on total stranger's doors could lead to a couple of... well, couplings.
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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
...then taking your clothes off in the middle of a park and knocking on the doors in a town-house community until you can find someone to have sex with you (and then being successful twice, apparently).
I mean... if I was totally single, and wasn't dating anyone... and a girl came to my door naked, and she was drop-dead gorgeous and she was like... "do you want to have sex..." I think I'd probably end up saying yes.
I probably would too, as long as I could be convinced that there wasn't some sinister ulterior motive.
However, that's hardly the same as a woman inviting some naked man into her home who shows up on her doorstep. She'd have to know that the guy was somewhat unbalanced, and unless the fellow was awfully tiny (referring to his overall physique!), I believe it would be EXTREMELY dangerous for a woman to get involved in such a situation. No wonder so many woman end up being assaulted, or worse.
I probably would too, as long as I could be convinced that there wasn't some sinister ulterior motive.
However, that's hardly the same as a woman inviting some naked man into her home who shows up on her doorstep. She'd have to know that the guy was somewhat unbalanced, and unless the fellow was awfully tiny (referring to his overall physique!), I believe it would be EXTREMELY dangerous for a woman to get involved in such a situation. No wonder so many woman end up being assaulted, or worse.
Well he wasn't quite a stranger in this case, but i do agree its a risk since you had to realize he was 'off' that day.
I probably would too, as long as I could be convinced that there wasn't some sinister ulterior motive.
However, that's hardly the same as a woman inviting some naked man into her home who shows up on her doorstep. She'd have to know that the guy was somewhat unbalanced, and unless the fellow was awfully tiny (referring to his overall physique!), I believe it would be EXTREMELY dangerous for a woman to get involved in such a situation. No wonder so many woman end up being assaulted, or worse.
As long as we are going off topic and completely forgetting the intent of this thread, why would it be less dangerous for woman to allow a smaller naked man in her home then a large naked man? You do realize that Charles Manson was a short **** little ****, right?
Personally I think Todd's story is a huge amount of bullshit, and a completely inappropriate play for attention in a serious thread. Well, was serious. It seems most of you don't really give a **** when the obvious signs of real problems out of someone's control appear, and would rather cross chat and derail threads.
As long as we are going off topic and completely forgetting the intent of this thread, why would it be less dangerous for woman to allow a smaller naked man in her home then a large naked man? You do realize that Charles Manson was a short **** little ****, right?
Personally I think Todd's story is a huge amount of bullshit, and a completely inappropriate play for attention in a serious thread. Well, was serious. It seems most of you don't really give a **** when the obvious signs of real problems out of someone's control appear, and would rather cross chat and derail threads.
And this is why you have so many negatives. (not from me however)
My intent started off serious, anyway...
EDIT: Fine, if you think it's somehow innapropriate, I'll remove my non-pertinent responses out of respect.
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As long as we are going off topic and completely forgetting the intent of this thread, why would it be less dangerous for woman to allow a smaller naked man in her home then a large naked man? You do realize that Charles Manson was a short **** little ****, right?
Personally I think Todd's story is a huge amount of bullshit, and a completely inappropriate play for attention in a serious thread. Well, was serious. It seems most of you don't really give a **** when the obvious signs of real problems out of someone's control appear, and would rather cross chat and derail threads.
It may have veered a bit OT from the person at hand, but it was still within the realm of the same subject and i don't think anyone here was making fun of Pavo and people are concerned.
EDIT: and as a disclaimer, i am one that doesn't feel hes spiraling out of control and going off the deep end from what i have seen, but i still do care about fellow humans and do understand that its difficult to live with an illness.
And what does charlie have anything to do with this? Even if you wanted to bring him in as an example, he had other do his dirty work.. his size isn't relevant. ( not flaming.. just confused. )
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As long as we are going off topic and completely forgetting the intent of this thread, why would it be less dangerous for woman to allow a smaller naked man in her home then a large naked man? You do realize that Charles Manson was a short **** little ****, right?
I suspect it would be easier to subdue a short **** little **** rather than a tall **** large ****, right?
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Personally I think Todd's story is a huge amount of bullshit, and a completely inappropriate play for attention in a serious thread. Well, was serious. It seems most of you don't really give a **** when the obvious signs of real problems out of someone's control appear, and would rather cross chat and derail threads.
IMO, any serious open discussion on mental problems is good. Sorry if we've intruded on your play to be a hero, but I doubt anything we've posted here would interfere with Eric being helped (if he needs it).
IMO, any serious open discussion on mental problems is good. Sorry if we've intruded on your play to be a hero, but I doubt anything we've posted here would interfere with Eric being helped (if he needs it).
I agree, keeping things in the closet and 'stigmatized' only hurts ( unfairly ) those that need the most help.
