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Originally posted by Patrick: Not having any interest in Britney Spears, I never bothered with this thread (until tonight).
it's always fun to check the trash can every now and then. you see some good sigs, and it's often interesting to see what silly things people (including brittney) are doing and saying
I had some time before work today, so I searched O/T and the O/T Archives for any evidence of what Toddster claims, that Euterpe unwittingly mentioned or admitted in another thread that she had some kind of personal experience with rape. The searchs went all the way back to Nov. 28, 2006, which was her first post in O/T after joining the forum on Nov. 23, 2006 (according to her profile) where the word rape was involved in the thread.
Nowhere, in any of her posts, was there any sort of admission or mentioning that would support Toddster's claims. A search for the terms Euterpe and Rape did not bring up any evidence at all that would support Toddster's claims. It brought up far more irrelevant posts (threads where Euterpe had posted and someone else had used the word Rape, but neither in conjunction with each other) than it did actual instances of Euterpe herself discussing rape. Never, at any point, did she claim to have any personal experience with rape.
Prove me wrong, Todd. Find this alleged thread that supports your case. I've done my homework, have you?
there's another, more important issue here. ultimately it doesnt matter (to PFF) if euterpe was raped. what matters is that:
(1) we have an individual who makes unsubstantiated claims and insists they are truth because he says so, but is unable (or refuses) to substantiate those claims. in this thread alone we have 3 distinct examples: first, the rape claim, despite the target's explicit statements to the contrary. second, the assertion that certain members were on the verge of banning. third, the claim that a specific number of pluses and negs had been given, when simple math shows that precision to be impossible short of receiving PMS from the raters.
(2) we have an individual who asserts that his goal is to clean up PFF, to protect it from bad language and personal attacks. this same individual has no compunctions about using silly insulting plays on user names, directly calling people "moron" and the like, and consistently using condescending language. to my knowledge, no one asked him to be the PC police, and he's a notably poor candidate for the job.
(3) we have an individual who both implies and states that he hopes to ban other users. despite the emptiness of those threats, he tries to hush up those who point to his fabrications and obfuscations with fear tactics.
(4) we have an individual who superbly (i'll give him that much credit) evades questions and issues not helpful to his argument, either giving circular or nonresponsive answers, or none at all, and claiming support where it doesn't exist.
i am not happy to say these things. it gives me little pleasure to say these things about another PFF member. there are other people who regularly indulge in one or two of these tactics, whose names i need not mention. it is rare indeed to encounter a person who uses them all, and couples them with a sense of self-esteem so colossal as to border on megalomania. i'm sure he's very capable at any activity which requires badgering and bending the truth, but i wouldnt want to know or meet him. he needs help, more help than an internet forum can give.
I have heard from a couple of forum members that Todd is actually a decent guy in “real” life. If anything, that makes me even more pissed off that he’s such a little sh!t-disturber here. He’s either a sniveling coward or a complete psycho to be such a different person when he’s hiding behind a keyboard.
It was one thing for me to have Todd snapping at my ass for the last couple of years, I can deal with that, but the last straw has been his treatment of Euterpe. It was disgusting and uncalled for, and I feel embarrassed as a long-time PFF member that she had to endure this vile treatment while engaging in our forum.
I have to say however that I’m delighted that many other PFF members have now expressed their outrage at Todd’s totally despicable behavior. A unified voice is speaking up. It feels as though this movement is reaching critical mass. It feels... good.
it's always fun to check the trash can every now and then. you see some good sigs, and it's often interesting to see what silly things people (including brittney) are doing and saying
I was away from the internet when all this took place, and just saw this while guttersniping thru the trash. That's a lot of bullcrap just over a bald head. I believe B. Spears DOES have a 2nd career going now tho.
I'll save you the two hours of reading I spent last night trying to sort this mess. Someone said some nasty comments about Britney Spears that were fairly inappropriate and rude if you were afemale reading this you would likely have been offended. Then someone called him on it and used some choice language of her own. Then someone else came and defended the original commentary while saying a nasty not-true comment of their own of a sexual nature about the 2nd person.. And then a 10 page pissing contest began which was only resolved by all sides just shutting up and letting it die. I think if you need to investigate, you will figure out who said what yourself.. I won't point fingers, but I believe someone was dead wrong for their commentary, and earned the tonguelashing they got.
Wish I had never even peeked in the trash can last night. I blame you , Don. You guttersniper.
[This message has been edited by tbone42 (edited 12-04-2010).]
I'm not afraid to point fingers. It was well known at the time that Toddster was on a personal crusade to have Euterpe run off the forum. Why? Because she's gay, and he didn't like that. The only thing she did wrong was to not fit into his narrow-minded view of reality.
I'm amazed Toddster hasn't been banned yet. Luckily for him, I don't have administrative privileges. Because if I did, I would have banned his sorry ass years ago.
Originally posted by Blacktree: I'm not afraid to point fingers. It was well known at the time that Toddster was on a personal crusade to have Euterpe run off the forum. Why? Because she's gay, and he didn't like that. The only thing she did wrong was to not fit into his narrow-minded view of reality.
it's more than that. she openly questioned his claims of moral and intellectual superiority, and she didn't try to be nice or subtle about it.
In other words, Todd met a woman who would not submit to him, and he got mad.
After Euterpe left in disgust, Todd went around bragging about how he could run people off the forum. Then he tried the same bullying tactics against other PFF members who he didn't like. To make a long story short, he basically pissed all over this forum, and many of the people in it.
Again, I'm amazed he's still here. He should have been banned long ago.
In other words, Todd met a woman who would not submit to him, and he got mad.
After Euterpe left in disgust, Todd went around bragging about how he could run people off the forum. Then he tried the same bullying tactics against other PFF members who he didn't like. To make a long story short, he basically pissed all over this forum, and many of the people in it.
Again, I'm amazed he's still here. He should have been banned long ago.
Again, I'm amazed he's still here. He should have been banned long ago.
He'll eventually surface again. Scum somehow always manages to float on top of clean water. And Cliff is a whole lot nicer and much more tolerant than I am.
Question: Where are Trollsters running buddies from California in this latest brouhaha? https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum6/HTML/080527.html You know, the other haters and name callers who have always supported him in his attacks? They're uncharacteristically silent about all this..... Oh well, its only an internet forum. I care a lot less than I used to.
[This message has been edited by NEPTUNE (edited 12-05-2010).]
Rumor has it, Todd has user ids numbering in the hundreds. I'm sure that has something to do with his persistence here. It might also say something about the speed at which I earned hundreds of ratings in a very short period of time and with a relatively low post count.
As far as his "friends", rumor has it that Todd used and abused everyone who he could, and generally wore out his welcome. But that's all what "they" say.
I think I have the mystery of "Some forum troll is emailing my Girlfriend" figured out.
Todd Lives in Morgan Hill CA. A member named JeriBlueEyes lives in Gilroy CA. (Very close to each other.) Todd said his GF's name was Jeri. She's a member with 15 posts, just saw one in the "Only Post when You are Drunk" thread here: https://www.fiero.nl/forum/F.../HTML/056793-12.html
And guess what? SHE HAS AN EMAIL LINK. Sooooo... that pretty much explains where whoever it was that was bothering her got the email from. Just have to say, thats pretty dumb complaining about someone accessing a publicly displayed email account. It has nothing to do with the way this forum is being run and EVERYTHING to do with someone wlling to post their email and someone like Todd, who is abbrasive to say the least, likely causing the actions through his opwn behavior. It does not excuse harrassment, but it sure explains where the harrasser got the info.. and through no fault of Cliff's or anyone else on this forum except Jeri's and Todds. Still looking for where Todd slipped up and said it was his GF...
I would have posted this in the offending thread, but it got closed. Anyhow, mystery solved.. no mystery at all. You want to keep your email private? Don't list it in the info bar.
Adorable? She must not have known him for very long. She seems like a nice lady, thats what makes the whole thing confusing. Maybe someone should link this thread into her intro thread so she can get a proper introduction to her boyfriend, after all, its best not to have secrets in a relationship and she might not be overly fond of someone who defends nasty statements like he defended here, or make unfounded nasty accusations of rape like he made here.
[This message has been edited by tbone42 (edited 12-06-2010).]
It doesn't sound like they are an item anymore. Hugh is the one who emailed her and it wasn't anything as dramatic as Todd was making it out to be. She says they aren't seeing each other in the correspondence Hugh posted. https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum6/HTML/080723.html
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Hello, Thank you for writing, I'm well. I don't visit the website often due to my long work hours. I may not return due to the fact that Todd and I are not seeing each other anymore. Thank you for not having animosity toward me...as you don't have reason to. Have a nice holiday. Jeri
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Leave it to Tardster to have a psychotic episode over nothing at all. I'm also not surprised that he would make unsubstantiated claims about Hugh. I mean, Todd has never done that kind of thing before... right?
As Bugs Bunny would say: "What a maroon!"
[This message has been edited by Blacktree (edited 12-21-2010).]
He'll eventually surface again. Scum somehow always manages to float on top of clean water. And Cliff is a whole lot nicer and much more tolerant than I am.
Question: Where are Trollsters running buddies from California in this latest brouhaha? https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum6/HTML/080527.html You know, the other haters and name callers who have always supported him in his attacks? They're uncharacteristically silent about all this..... Oh well, its only an internet forum. I care a lot less than I used to.
Oh my god, I missed the thread in the above link while I was on vacation from PFF. Holy smokes!
He'll eventually surface again. Scum somehow always manages to float on top of clean water. And Cliff is a whole lot nicer and much more tolerant than I am.
I care a lot less than I used to.
I hate to say "I told you so," but I told you so.
[This message has been edited by NEPTUNE (edited 09-13-2011).]
