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Who's the worst? by Lex
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Cali Kid was nice enough to put a little list together of all the Pff'ers that are naughty. My question is, who among us is the most is worst and why?

Black88GT
Bookster
donk316
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greg
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The other thing I am curious about: A) Most think self moderation of the forum is good. B) It seems there is a majority opinion that banned forum members should not be let back on.
What if Cali-Kids list grew to the point where we'd be able to hit him with so many negs he'd be banned for making the list in the first place, should Cali-Kid or any other "good" memeber be allowed to comeback in such a situation?

"Bad" is only "bad" as long as the majority says it is.

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WTF? Put Mastermind on his own list! ew!

Im not BAD ...im misunderstood.


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YES--finally made it on a list to be proud of. I just wanna thank everyone that made this happen and I will strive to work my way to the top of it.

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Originally posted by MstangsBware:

YES--finally made it on a list to be proud of. I just wanna thank everyone that made this happen and I will strive to work my way to the top of it.

Might be hard...It's in alphabetical order.....

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Originally posted by Lex:

What if Cali-Kids list grew to the point where we'd be able to hit him with so many negs he'd be banned for making the list in the first place,

Well I'm thinking that you have CAKid so scared that he's just shaking in his boots right now.

Not !

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Well I'm thinking that you have CAKid so scared that he's just shaking in his boots right now.

Not !

Archie

Not the point. As I have CA Kid rated as a +.
My point is if a "good" forum memeber got banned by "bad" forum members, should the "good" member be allowed to rejoin?

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Nice one Archie. Why do you losers wanna be proud for being dumb?

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Originally posted by MstangsBware:

YES--finally made it on a list to be proud of. I just wanna thank everyone that made this happen and I will strive to work my way to the top of it.

It might not be for long, though.

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My point is if a "good" forum memeber got banned by "bad" forum members, should the "good" member be allowed to rejoin?

Sure.. The "bad" ones return under a new name of course...

I figured I would see my name on there... hehehe

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dicks?

Nice... <family forum remember..??>

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I'd like to thank the academy....
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Nice... <family forum remember..??>


Sorry I changed it.

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It might not be for long, though.


Only if I am luckey!!!

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I'd like to thank the academy....

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Originally posted by 84Fiero2M4:

Why do you losers wanna be proud for being dumb?


Why do you want to be proud of having a roof wing?

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please dont even start that crap again. I like what I like, everyone has their own opinions.
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Originally posted by 84Fiero2M4:

please dont even start that crap again. I like what I like, everyone has their own opinions.

So us "being dumb" is just your opinion. So why are you preaching to us about how we should act, when you tell us not to preach to you about how your car looks?

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Because my car doesnt effect any of you.
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Originally posted by 84Fiero2M4:

Because my car doesnt effect any of you.

And some how SH, Donk, JM, or Lex has an effect on you?

Hear that guys? We got powaz. Grow some balls.

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Rod and Todd say:

"Your wing makes baby Jesus cry."

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has this forum has turned into a ****ing popularity contest? this is rediculous.
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Rod and Todd say:

"Your wing makes baby Jesus cry."

This rating thing is definetly flawed. Cliff, go back to using your own discretion when it's time to boot someone.
Pnishr, I just gave you a positive rating for making me laugh so hard I'm wiping my eyes.

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Originally posted by Lex:

What if Cali-Kids list grew to the point where we'd be able to hit him with so many negs he'd be banned for making the list in the first place, should Cali-Kid or any other "good" memeber be allowed to comeback in such a situation?


Lex, I don't know why you're so concerned about the list I posted, it's common knowledge, and your rating bar shows up in every post you make. Secondly, If I'm so far off base in making these type of posts, and did get rated off the Forum........then I don't belong here in the first place, my time would be better spent elsewhere.
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This rating thing is definetly flawed. Cliff, go back to using your own discretion when it's time to boot someone.
Pnishr, I just gave you a positive rating for making me laugh so hard I'm wiping my eyes.

LOL

Yeah.. Shaun (I believe thats his name) cracks me the hell up sometimes. In fact most of those individuals on the list are ok kinda guys. Sometimes a tad over the top but then again everyone has their over the top moments.

Generally I believe the rating system is ok BUT it does have serious flaws. I'd much rather repeal the rating system and just leave Cliff out of it. He has enough stuff to do than to play baby sitter. People should only be banned when they CONSTANTLY violate the forum rules and even then they should be given some latitude.

Freedom is for everyone and if you don't like someone exercising their freedom to say something, you are free to ignore it OR you are free to comment on it. It works both ways... just as it should. No one deserves a negative for speeking their mind on a subject. However persoanl attacks such as a hit list to draw attention to others of so called ill repute in one persons mind... well to me thats just trolling... Trolls get negatives from me regardless.

Anyway... negative for Cali Kid..

There WAS NO REASON for this list other than to rally the cheerleaders to your cause... It backfired.

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Eh? Whats the Cali Kid list you guys speak of.. Never seen it..
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Originally posted by Lex:


"Bad" is only "bad" as long as the majority says it is.


You're right Lex,

The rating system here cracks me up sometimes. It is definitely misused. Many people hand them out for no damn good reason. Just because you disagree with someone doesn't mean they deserve a negative rating from you.

We've all seen people get flamed into the ground for no good reason. I know there are plenty of people who deserve negatives. The one time I give them out is when it's someone who is intentionally being a jackass whenever they get the chance. That's rare though.

I wish people would think a bit harder before they just handed a rating out. I don't always agree with the attitudes/opinions here but that doesn't mean I should try to get that person banned by negging them.

There is definitely a mob-mentality around here and anyone could be the next target if they disagree with the wrong person

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Originally posted by MstangsBware:

Only if I am luckey!!!

If I get many more negatives, I'm outta here voluntarily. If THAT many people don't want me here, I'll walk. I don't want to hang around where I'm not welcome.

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If I get many more negatives, I'm outta here voluntarily. If THAT many people don't want me here, I'll walk. I don't want to hang around where I'm not welcome.

Why??
Dewd.. you may be an ass (IMHO) but don't just cut and run because you get negatives. I mean like WTF? Life aint a popularity contest to be WON.. It's a contest to be ENJOYED so just enjoy it regardless of your stupid ratings.

Don't be a wussy on top of being an ass or I'll really start to dislike you. Just enjoy the forum with everyone.. that's what it's here for. Screw the ratings!

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If I get many more negatives, I'm outta here voluntarily. If THAT many people don't want me here, I'll walk. I don't want to hang around where I'm not welcome.

hloy cow man you picked up 10 ratings this week.where was that thread i want to read it.

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Why??
Dewd.. you may be an ass (IMHO) but don't just cut and run because you get negatives. I mean like WTF? Life aint a popularity contest to be WON.. It's a contest to be ENJOYED so just enjoy it regardless of your stupid ratings.

Don't be a wussy on top of being an ass or I'll really start to dislike you. Just enjoy the forum with everyone.. that's what it's here for. Screw the ratings!

Well, despite the name calling, I'll answer you. It's a matter of principle. I honestly wouldn't want to hang around a place where the majority of people don't like me and/or want me to be there, for whatever reason they fell that way. Plus, this is Cliff's house, and I have tremendous respect for him. So, if my ratings bar/meter/whatever dips below the halfway mark, I'm gone.

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Some ppl rate ppl blindly.... As for me I will useally rate a + faster than a negative, If I rate anyone with a negative, It's because that person really deserves it and usaully I have a 3strike out rule before I neg someone and after that I usaully will take a person off of the neg after 2 to 3 months if the person I rate plays nice....


Some ppl really deserves there rating meter why some don't but for the ppl who get rated blindly I see there meter return back to the green after awhile soo it all balances out... About getting banned a person should not beable to comeback after getting banned... Period, Not under a new name or anyone elses.

from all the things I seen on this board I think cliff is actually very passive at some of the things that ppl do with curses and nasty pics ect.... Some pics are funny why others are stupid Soo I see it very hard to actually get banned.

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Well, despite the name calling, I'll answer you. It's a matter of principle. I honestly wouldn't want to hang around a place where the majority of people don't like me and/or want me to be there, for whatever reason they feel that way. Plus, this is Cliff's house, and I have tremendous respect for him. So, if my ratings bar/meter/whatever dips below the halfway mark, I'm gone.

Well.. I'm not going to blow sunshine up your arse because the choice is yours but I still think you are being a major whiny baby about it. Respect or not, do you honestly think Cliff cares about your ratings?

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Well.. I'm not going to blow sunshine up your arse because the choice is yours but I still think you are being a major whiny baby about it. Respect or not, do you honestly think Cliff cares about your ratings?

It isn't about whining. I'm not asking for positives, I'm not blaming anyone, and if it was my posts and opinions that create the negative ratings, so be it. I'd respect the wishes of the majority, and leave.

No, Cliff has nothing to do with it. If my posts are that unpopular, I will leave Cliff's house out of respect. I don't expect you to understand that.

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It isn't about whining. I'm not asking for positives, I'm not blaming anyone, and if it was my posts and opinions that create the negative ratings, so be it. I'd respect the wishes of the majority, and leave.

No, Cliff has nothing to do with it. If my posts are that unpopular, I will leave Cliff's house out of respect. I don't expect you to understand that.

Umm bear... IT WAS YOUR POSTS and OPINIONS!
That's just freaking stupid to leave because you get a few negatives for voicing an opinion... Unless you were making personal attacks.. In that case, by all means let the door hit you in the ass.

If you want a green from me then stop laying down personal attacks with your first post.. I read 3 threads in a row where your first post had a dispariging remarks aimed at another member (and no not me though you do it constantly), I mean like WTF do you expect? A loving embrace?

Like I said before. If you want to hang your head in shame and walk off the cliff then be my guest but I personally thing you are being a wussy.. And yes, I'm surprised because I figured you had more fight than that.

Like I said... whatever.. later dewd.

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I don't even know why I'm arguing this with you because it's not as if I'll miss you, if anything I'll be relieved to have you off my ass and full of nothing but crap remarks and inflamitory quips.

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It isn't about whining. I'm not asking for positives, I'm not blaming anyone, and if it was my posts and opinions that create the negative ratings, so be it. I'd respect the wishes of the majority, and leave.

No, Cliff has nothing to do with it. If my posts are that unpopular, I will leave Cliff's house out of respect. I don't expect you to understand that.

Fierobear, Based on your comments regarding this issue you are obviously a person driven by a set of core principles based on common decency (trully a trait of a honorable character)...yet you continue at attempting to rationalize this with an individual who has consistantly demonstrated that he is NOT driven by any form of decency let alone a set of core principles! Not sure what ever swelled his head but until that swelling goes down or gets released (by a hard blow) he will surley continue treating others with contempt! Peace, and a plus for at least trying..... BBTs

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Fierobear, Based on your comments regarding this issue you are obviously a person driven by a set of core principles based on common decency (trully a trait of a honorable character)...yet you continue at attempting to rationalize this with an individual who has consistantly demonstrated that he is NOT driven by any form of decency let alone a set of core principles! Not sure what ever swelled his head but until that swelling goes down or gets released (by a hard blow) he will surley continue treating others with contempt! Peace, and a plus for at least trying..... BBTs

For a person that roams the board in search of any post of mine that can be found so you can post this childish "poor bill" crap, Id' say your ability to know what constitutes basic pricipals and decency are quite screwd up.

BBT's... get some help.

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Umm bear... IT WAS YOUR POSTS and OPINIONS!

Giving someone a negative for their opinion is just WRONG. More on this below. I'm pretty sure I've never given anyone for their opinion, only if they've delivered it in a disrespectful manner. If I have, then I get what I deserve, and can and will live with it. But negatives for opposing opinions? That's chickens**t.

 
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That's just freaking stupid to leave because you get a few negatives for voicing an opinion... Unless you were making personal attacks.. In that case, by all means let the door hit you in the ass.

First of all, it ain't a few negatives. I have 160-something ratings, and if more than half became negative, that's 80+ people. As for personal attacks, see below.

 
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If you want a green from me then stop laying down personal attacks with your first post.. I read 3 threads in a row where your first post had a dispariging remarks aimed at another member (and no not me though you do it constantly), I mean like WTF do you expect? A loving embrace?

Most, if not all the time, any personal attacks from me are spillover from another time and/or another thread. Believe it or not, I like to get along with people. Any and all people. I don't seek out conflict. I *do* enjoy debate, but some of the debates around here get out of hand, and often end up getting personal. That's the root of the problem.

 
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Like I said before. If you want to hang your head in shame and walk off the cliff then be my guest but I personally thing you are being a wussy.. And yes, I'm surprised because I figured you had more fight than that.

You still don't get it. It's not about walking away in shame. It's not about chickening out (being a wussy), it's about a principle. I debate politics because of principle. I'm sure I could have avoided a lot of arguments and therefore a lot of negatives if I'd just stayed out of the political discussions. But I've been standing on principle. Again, if the majority wants me gone, I'll respect that and leave...not in shame, but with the diginity of knowing when to walk away.

 
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I don't even know why I'm arguing this with you because it's not as if I'll miss you, if anything I'll be relieved to have you off my ass and full of nothing but crap remarks and inflamitory quips.

Ditto.

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Originally posted by Black88GT:

I was first on the list

I'M NUMBER 1, I'M NUMBER 1

THe first on the list starts at the bottom of the list.

So...

I'M NUMBER 1, I'M NUMBER 1 neener neener.

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