Ok fb.. but It's not like you are running for office and need the majority vote. like you said "Giving someone a negative for their opinion is just WRONG." so why let them win? Just try not to let the attacks "spill over" into another thread. It just makes you looks really bad and I'm sure thats where alot of negs stem from..
Anyways..
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A fragment of "Old Glory"
Old Glory; hallowed symbol of our Republic now seemingly hollowed and emptied by the misplaced pride of those who hold you dear. Wrap your undying spirit around our fallen heroes; guide us true and deliver them tranquil rest in the fertile soil of your birth; that their love of you may remain forever shining as the sun untarnished. They being the seed commanding eternal reverence for you we weep; the multitudes of wounded souls long cried out amassed; nourishing you with unflinching truth. Restoring to us the great tree of liberty; this embodiment of you bearing the fruits of their many sacrifices; that we may subsist in equal measure: as is meant to be.
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Ok fb.. but It's not like you are running for office and need the majority vote. like you said "Giving someone a negative for their opinion is just WRONG." so why let them win? Just try not to let the attacks "spill over" into another thread. It just makes you looks really bad and I'm sure thats where alot of negs stem from..
Anyways..
Originally, I had just responded to someone else's comments about ratings and so forth, I didn't intend for this to become a long discussion about my ratings thing and my plans. Let's drop it.
like you said "Giving someone a negative for their opinion is just WRONG."
Well there you go, You talk out of both sides of your mouth, don't you ! I posted my opinion, didn't use any harsh or foul langage, but you quickly announce (to the whole Forum) you rated me a negative for it. I'm not going to defend my position on this, frankly don't care about the negative you've given me, because I don't have that much respect for you in the first place.
Well there you go, You talk out of both sides of your mouth, don't you ! I posted my opinion, didn't use any harsh or foul langage, but you quickly announce (to the whole Forum) you rated me a negative for it. I'm not going to defend my position on this, frankly don't care about the negative you've given me, because I don't have that much respect for you in the first place.
I see. Well, "Red bar brigaders" don't fly with me. It's unfortunate you don't understand why so I'll make it simple. Creating the "hit list" was your way of getting others to rate those guys negativly. In my books this "hit list" was an antagonistic post and warrants a negative rating.
BTW.. Dont worry about it because I change them regularly. The only time it becomes perminent is if you are a constant troll.... Which you are not.
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I bet its because youre black, damn those rednecks......
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"Naw man, not a Ferrari, it's a Fiero. I don't know, its kinda like a poor mans Ferrari. I dont give a damn about what Kelly's says about its value." Part of a Phone Conversation with my Auntie, lol
My point is if a "good" forum memeber got banned by "bad" forum members, should the "good" member be allowed to rejoin?
well, it would be virtually impossible for a 'good' member to be banned by any group, simply because of the math involved. For a person to even fall below "50%", 1/2 of his ratings +1 would have to be negative or neutral I believe. both 'good' and 'bad', are like beauty-it's in the eye of the beholder. I happen to be one of those who believes there is some of both in all. Anyone who is simply a troll would still have to be an absolute axhole to warrant a neg, especially if he/she were knowlegable in automotive endeavors and tended to share that knowlege here. Some may choose to share that knowlege in a somewhat abrasive manner, but still, it is available if anyone cares to read thru a little jocularity and trollishness. I also believe tenacity is a hell of a desirable virtue, even if that tenacity is used in pursuing an ideal I don't happen to agree with. I think one of the reasons some give negs out, is that deep down, they have a fear that the 'bad' person might actually be right, and they'd rather not face that possibility. Rating them to the point of banishment tends to put that fear 'out of sight-out of mind'.
But, to address your original question Lex: Sure. I believe everyone deserves a second chance. In this scenario tho, where the majority is now 'bad' and the 'good' are evidently a minority, that second chance would have to include the previously banned member coming back and behaving as a 'bad' member. Otherwise, he/she would just be beset with negs and quickly banned again. Kind of interesting really, if you think about it a bit. a little like a law abiding citizen suddenly being thrust into a society of miscreants, and having to change his spots, as it were, in order to fit into that society and survive. Intresting question. I'll change you from a neutral to a positive just for making me excersize my brain a little.
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well, it would be virtually impossible for a 'good' member to be banned by any group, simply because of the math involved. For a person to even fall below "50%", 1/2 of his ratings +1 would have to be negative or neutral I believe.
I disagree though.. There are a few respected members who are mostly green, who don't have many ratings.. (60 we'll say, 40-45 of those being positives for arguments sake).. I mean, it would take a bunch of people, but it still wouldn't be miraculous to have him flashing red.. Granted, they'd start a rate me thread and bump it up to 110 green ratings, but if that didn't happen, I think it would be quite possible. Well, then again in retrospect, if I'm not mistaken, Cliff still has the last word I believe, so it wouldn't happen, but you know what I"m saying..
Originally posted by maryjane: both 'good' and 'bad', are like beauty-it's in the eye of the beholder. I happen to be one of those who believes there is some of both in all.
look out, youre going to get in trouble with the moral absolutists! i'd give you a + for that, but too late, youve already got one.