Unfortunately, Democrats have never really understood economics, or the global economy in general. Passage of this law would absolutely guarantee a mass exodus of business from the United States, which would lead to massive unemployment and enormous crime.

While I'm not happy about it, I realize that the only time people actually understand reality is when they are directly affected by it. At least no one can say I want Biden to fail... I want him to succeed in
EVERYTHING he wants to do...

https://www.washingtonexami...-work-laws-27-states

I really hope this passes...


Good snippet about what this is REALLY about:

"Doing so would kill jobs and economic growth, the National Right To Work Committee argues. Its calculation of job growth in right-to-work states is double that of growth in forced-unionism states, and the average family living in a right-to-work state has $4,258 more to spend in after-tax real income."


Translation: Socialism cannot work when there is competition, so we need to destroy the competition.

Reality: Socialism still won't work, the other states will just turn to **** like the unionized states.

Extra Reality: Destroying the US economy is necessary to ensure global complacency and a compliant world population.

Arizona is a right to work state and has always been one of the fastest growing states in the country.

I have said here before that I jump started* my driving career back in '76 by crossing Teamster picket lines. They did not like me one bit, but there was work to be done and they did not want to do it. And you know what? I got the very same pay and benifits that they gave up, except that I had no dues to pay.

* I say jump started because I had a couple of years of experience, but this was the job that made it a worthwhile career. 27 years of driving followed by 15 years in management.

There was a time, long ago in which unions were a desirable if not needed entity in certain sectors. "Kill a mule, buy another. Kill a man, hire his brother".
That era is long long past.

I agree Todd. This bill is a huge step toward socialism.

quote Originally posted by williegoat: I have said here before that I jump started* my driving career back in '76 by crossing Teamster picket lines. They did not like me one bit, but there was work to be done and they did not want to do it. And you know what? I got the very same pay and benifits that they gave up, except that I had no dues to pay.

What you never understand is other people have free will and can do things the way they want. Sounds to me you owe them a thanks for doing the heavy lifting in the system that you took advantage of.

quote Originally posted by sourmash: What you never understand is other people have free will and can do things the way they want. Sounds to me you owe them a thanks for doing the heavy lifting in the system that you took advantage of.

Free will would also include the right to join or not join a union.

The best and worst jobs I ever had was in "Union" facilities. The difference was the leadership of the unions. The worst experience ended up getting the facility closed after I left.

Choices, choices have consequences (as a friend of mine frequently says).

Rams

quote Originally posted by maryjane: There was a time, long ago in which unions were a desirable if not needed entity in certain sectors. "Kill a mule, buy another. Kill a man, hire his brother". That era is long long past. I agree Todd. This bill is a huge step toward socialism.

Those companies and sectors still exist, dealing with them is what turned me into what I now am. They are the REASON strong employee-protection laws are needed and need to be enforced. Otherwise its just a return to slavery with corporate rather than plantation masters.

quote Originally posted by blackrams: Free will would also include the right to join or not join a union. The best and worst jobs I ever had was in "Union" facilities. The difference was the leadership of the unions. The worst experience ended up getting the facility closed after I left. Choices, choices have consequences (as a friend of mine frequently says). Rams

Union work didn't work for me either. So much so that I never did it again and turned down working in another shop.

Working under a union and not being in the union still gave him a benefit he didn't contribute to. Some guys at my place did it too.

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I've worked in both. Ununionized environment was a PITA sometimes because I really dont give a rats ass who's "job" it is, do what you need to git-r-done and if that steps on some toes, then tough.

OTOH, I am not the companies banker, I am not managements ***** -boy and I expect them to stay OFF of my personal time, money and property as well as beliefs, and pay their own damn bills. and if they dont want to do that or are too effin cheap to hire sufficient staff or buy/lease sufficient equipment to meet their requirements, it AINT my problem to fix or finance. And no, I am NOT joining some thought-control cult just to earn a living.

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