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Masks are utterly useless by MidEngineManiac
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Now wear your mask inside your home !

https://twitter.com/buzzman... message4595844%2Fpg1

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I think Nancy Pelosi should wear a mask. Her husband agrees.
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Hospitals are filling up with crisis actors posing as Covid-19 patients.
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Originally posted by rinselberg:

Hospitals are filling up with crisis actors posing as Covid-19 patients.


Have you any proof that Hospitals are filling up with anything covid related? Or is it just mass media saying so?
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San Jose Mercury
New Jersey nj(.com)
WBAY Wisconsin
WLWT Cincinnati
Wall Street Journal
1011 Now (Nebraska)
News4 Jacksonville
Indianapolis Star
Voice of Orange County
WFAA Texas

Some of the latest "mass" media reports about hospitals under pressure from the increasing numbers of Covid patients

Google covid "hospitalizations"

What's the craft or artisanal media reporting?

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With my mask on womernz can't see me saying SCHWING! or OMFg at their yoga pants.
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"More than 900 Mayo Clinic staff in Midwest diagnosed with Covid-19 in past two weeks"
 
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The number comprises almost one-third of the 2,981 cases among the medical center's staff since the start of the pandemic in March, the center said. . . . “It shows you how easy it is to get COVID-19 in the Midwest,” ... “Our staff are being infected mostly due to community spread, and this impacts our ability to care for patients.”
Wilson Wong for NBC News; November 18, 2020.
https://www.nbcnews.com/new...vid-19-past-n1248130

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Originally posted by sourmash:

With my mask on womernz can't see me saying SCHWING! or OMFg at their yoga pants.


You should develop your ventriloquist talents, then you could throw your voice toward the next guy and say whatever is on your mind.

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Originally posted by Rickady88GT:


Have you any proof that Hospitals are filling up with anything covid related? Or is it just mass media saying so?


He has assumed infections equal hospitalizations which isn’t true at all. Also, if you hear ICUs are almost full please realize that an ICU unit may have 10 beds max. Large hospitals may have more. But no hospital has hundreds of ICU beds just getting slammed with patients.

Nobody wants to contract this damn thing and nobody thinks it’s a hoax. But the hyperbole is out of hand.
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Opportunities, yes.

You don't know I said it, ma'am. Nobody saw me say how those pants want me to shag you. Wait! It was your pants that said it..

 
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You should develop your ventriloquist talents, then you could throw your voice toward the next guy and say whatever is on your mind.

Rams

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Originally posted by Hudini:
He has assumed infections equal hospitalizations which isn’t true at all. Also, if you hear ICUs are almost full please realize that an ICU unit may have 10 beds max. Large hospitals may have more. But no hospital has hundreds of ICU beds just getting slammed with patients.

Nobody wants to contract this damn thing and nobody thinks it’s a hoax. But the hyperbole is out of hand.

My suggestion was... and I repeat it:

Use Google (or other online search engine) with search input covid "hospitalizations"
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Right now Texas is at 14.4% of available hospital beds for covid. At 15% it’s deemed a “problem”. 85% are still available for non-covid patients.

This virus sucks. Everyone knows it.
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Nobody is questioning if it exists or not, or if it makes a relatively few very sick or dead.

The question is are these destructive clown-world antics doing anything to slow or stop it ? There more studies released the more its showing itself a complete sham.

https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M20-6817

Conclusion:
The recommendation to wear surgical masks to supplement other public health measures did not reduce the SARS-CoV-2 infection rate among wearers by more than 50% in a community with modest infection rates, some degree of social distancing, and uncommon general mask use. The data were compatible with lesser degrees of self-protection.

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This is a thread about yoga pants. Back on topic please.
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Far better off looking at each state's dashboard than reading 'the news'.

It also depends where one is located within each state.
Harris county for instance (Houston metroplex) has more people with covid than any other county. It's also the most populated county in Texas but is also home to the sprawling Texas Medical Center, the largest medical center in the free world. There are approx 19,300 hospital beds total in the Houston Metoplex.
The Texas Medical Center in Houston has about 1000 beds total, with it's facilities set up in 4 phases for pandemics.

TMC has set up 4 phases of 'seriousness' with ICU Phase1 total possible occupancy at 1330. There are now 1278 total Phase1 patients in TMNC facilities with 222 of the Ph1 patients having Covid19.(All causes) occupancy is at 96% full. Covid ICU Phase1 cases are at 17% as of Nov 17.

ICU Phase2 and Phase3 total patients stands at 272 and 504 respectively.
There is a 4% total daily Covid growth rate of patients in TMC, 2.6% Covid ICU growth rate, and medical surgery (non-covid) growth rate over the last 7 days.



the big picture for Houston/Harris County Texas

In Tx, it's not nearly as bad as it was earlier in the year when there was a sudden onslaught of new serious cases. I think that was around July.
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Originally posted by rinselberg:

My suggestion was... and I repeat it:

Use Google (or other online search engine) with search input covid "hospitalizations"


Your suggestion was that Hudini is correct.
I think it is time for people to ask if the tests are even accurate? We already know the mass media has mislead us before, is this just another example of hyping the covid scare? Clearly, we don't need to repeat again and again how real the virus is. What isn't being asked is can we trust that a positive test is actually a positive test? Are hospitals actually filling up with covid patients?
Count me as skeptical.
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The fines are very real.

https://abc7.com/face-mask-...e-shield-vs/6339362/

 
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These California cities and counties have implemented fines for not wearing a mask or face covering in public:

Beverly Hills: $100 fine for the first offense, $200 for second, $500 for third and subsequent offenses
Calabasas: $100 for first violation
Claremont: First-time offenders will be given a warning and offered a face mask. After that, fines would start at $100. People in exempt categories will not be cited.
Compton: Violators will get a written warning for the first violation, $500 fine for a second violation, $750 for a third violation, and $1,000 for the fourth.
Contra Costa County: $100 fine for an individual's first violation, $200 for second and $500 for third; $250 for a business's first violation, $500 for second and $1,000 for third
Costa Mesa: $100 fine
Duarte: $100 for first offenses, $200 for second offenses, and $500 for every subsequent violation within a one-year period from the initial offense
Fremont: $100 fine
Glendale: $400 for the first fine, $1,000 for the second fine and $2,000 for the third
Hermosa Beach: Citations will come with fines of $100 for the first violation, $200 for a second violation and $500 for each subsequent violation of the face mask requirement within a one-year period.
Irvine: Penalties up to $500 per day
Manhattan Beach: $100 for the first violation, $200 for the second and $350 for subsequent violations
Marin County: Fines between $25 and $500 for individuals, and between $250 to $10,000 for businesses
Monterey: $100 for first violation
Napa County: Fines between $25 and $500 for individuals, and between $250 to $10,000 for businesses
Salinas: $100 for first violation, $500 for second and $1,000 for subsequent
Santa Monica: $100 fine for an individual's first violation, $250 for second and $500 for third; $500 for a business's first violation, $750 for second and $1,000 for third
West Hollywood: $300 for first violation
Yolo County: Fine between $25 and $500 for individuals; fine between $250 to $10,000 for businesses
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Originally posted by Jake_Dragon:

The fines are very real.

https://abc7.com/face-mask-...e-shield-vs/6339362/

[QUOTE]These California cities and counties have implemented fines for not wearing a mask or face covering in public:

Beverly Hills: $100 fine for the first offense, $200 for second, $500 for third and subsequent offenses
Calabasas: $100 for first violation
Claremont: First-time offenders will be given a warning and offered a face mask. After that, fines would start at $100. People in exempt categories will not be cited.
Compton: Violators will get a written warning for the first violation, $500 fine for a second violation, $750 for a third violation, and $1,000 for the fourth.
Contra Costa County: $100 fine for an individual's first violation, $200 for second and $500 for third; $250 for a business's first violation, $500 for second and $1,000 for third
Costa Mesa: $100 fine
Duarte: $100 for first offenses, $200 for second offenses, and $500 for every subsequent violation within a one-year period from the initial offense
Fremont: $100 fine
Glendale: $400 for the first fine, $1,000 for the second fine and $2,000 for the third
Hermosa Beach: Citations will come with fines of $100 for the first violation, $200 for a second violation and $500 for each subsequent violation of the face mask requirement within a one-year period.
Irvine: Penalties up to $500 per day
Manhattan Beach: $100 for the first violation, $200 for the second and $350 for subsequent violations
Marin County: Fines between $25 and $500 for individuals, and between $250 to $10,000 for businesses
Monterey: $100 for first violation
Napa County: Fines between $25 and $500 for individuals, and between $250 to $10,000 for businesses
Salinas: $100 for first violation, $500 for second and $1,000 for subsequent
Santa Monica: $100 fine for an individual's first violation, $250 for second and $500 for third; $500 for a business's first violation, $750 for second and $1,000 for third
West Hollywood: $300 for first violation
Yolo County: Fine between $25 and $500 for individuals; fine between $250 to $10,000 for businesses
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The "fines" hae nothing to do with the virus, as usual they are about forcing blind obedience to an agenda.
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Originally posted by MidEngineManiac:

The "fines" hae nothing to do with the virus, as usual they are about forcing blind obedience to an agenda.


Like speed limits? SMOG tests?

Everything has an agenda in California.
Hey would you like a train? No just the money.
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Originally posted by Hudini:
Right now Texas is at 14.4% of available hospital beds for covid. At 15% it’s deemed a “problem”. 85% are still available for non-covid patients.

Yeah, but those numbers are averaged across the entire state of Texas. If you look at it that way (statewide) you could say that a large meteor exploded above Dallas Fort Worth and killed more than 100 people. Local hospitals were overwhelmed with the injured. Not a big deal though, because statewide, it hardly affects the 2020 mortality and hospitalization statistics for a state that is populated by almost 29 million people.
 
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Texas is rushing thousands of additional medical staff to overworked hospitals as the number of hospitalized COVID-19 patients statewide accelerates toward 8,000 for the first time since a deadly summer outbreak.

In the worsening rural Panhandle, roughly half of the admitted patients in Lubbock’s two main hospitals had COVID-19, and a dozen people with the virus were waiting in the emergency room for beds to open up Tuesday night, said Dr. Ron Cook, the Lubbock County health authority.

“We’re in trouble,” Cook said.

In the Texas border city of El Paso, overwhelmed morgues have begun paying jail inmates $2 an hour to help transport the bodies of virus victims. The crush of patients is forcing the city to send its non-COVID-19 cases to hospitals elsewhere in the state.

More than 5,400 extra medical personnel have been deployed around Texas by the state alone, said Lara Anton, a spokeswoman for the Texas Department of State Health Services. And that doesn’t include the help surging into Texas from the military and volunteer organizations.


"US hospitals overwhelmed with new coronavirus cases"
 
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The number of people hospitalized with COVID-19 in the U.S. has doubled in the past month and set new records every day this week.

Paul J Weber and Sarah Rankin for AP; duplicated by WFAA Texas; November 19, 2020.
https://www.wfaa.com/articl...0c-b113-8e9c0241227b

Oh--I didn't realize there had been significant new messaging in this thread since the last time I looked in here.

That's OK.

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