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What will we be mining on the moon? by 2.5
Started on: 10-09-2020 12:03 PM
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Apparently the U.S. , Russia and China all want to. Anyone else heard about it?
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Whatever it is, it better be DAMN valuable to cover the costs of getting it !
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There will be off-world mining.
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I think the moon would not be of great interest for mining, but could be used as a base to get to asteroids with more valuable metals and ores that could be mined.

Just 2 cents worth.

But hey Russia (or China) "If you want to do mining of the moon... you do you."

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the fracking fluid:

You had to have been there.

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Originally posted by williegoat:


the fracking fluid:



You had to have been there.



I was, and on some weekends when visiting neighbors, still am. (before Covid anyway)

(Hecho en Mexico Royal Crown Cola tastes just as good as the original did)
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I recall there being a few materials that would be worth mining... but If you change the mass of the moon...

I dunno, I feel like that's not a great idea. Maybe it would cause a gradual change over a looong time, but our orbit is relatively stable very little "drift"... it would suck if changing the mass of the moon caused something to happen, like altering our earth/sun orbit or Earth/moon orbit...

The moon, she's a spinnin'!

I know the mass would only change a wee bit... but frakkin' the moon... we should focus on the resources found on Earth (both in the ground and from the freaking SUN)…

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Originally posted by TheDigitalAlchemist:

I recall there being a few materials that would be worth mining... but If you change the mass of the moon...

I dunno, I feel like that's not a great idea. Maybe it would cause a gradual change over a looong time, but our orbit is relatively stable very little "drift"... it would suck if changing the mass of the moon caused something to happen, like altering our earth/sun orbit or Earth/moon orbit...

The moon, she's a spinnin'!

I know the mass would only change a wee bit... but frakkin' the moon... we should focus on the resources found on Earth (both in the ground and from the freaking SUN)…


If 1 metric ton of material was completely removed from the moon every day, it would take 220 million years to remove 1% of the moons total mass, which is not enough to effect it or is.

Or not...

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Helium 3
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We should DEFINITELY start doing it THIS year...

“Losing the moon” is SO #2020
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Taxpayer's dollars.
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I heard of mining the Moon for Helium-3, since it's more abundant there than on Earth. As I understand it, Helium-3 would make nuclear fusion more attainable.

But water? I'm assuming it'll be used on-site (to make liquid hydrogen and oxygen), rather than bringing it to Earth.

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Isn't there a Nazi base already on the moon?

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Originally posted by Boondawg: If 1 metric ton of material was completely removed from the moon every day, it would take 220 million years to remove 1% of the moons total mass, which is not enough to effect it or is.

If I did the math right, then after 220 million years the Moon will have drifted about 5500 miles from Earth, due to natural causes. Also note that we've already dropped several tons of stuff on the Moon. So we'll be starting off ahead of the curve.

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Originally posted by Patrick:


Isn't there a Nazi base already on the moon?



Me not buying conspiracy theories does not mean I don't thoroughly enjoy contemplating them!
I always loved the "Alternate History" fiction books!

Love the picture!
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EEexxxxxaaacccttlllllyyyyy WHERE does the man-in-the-moon collect that ?

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Love the picture!


Then you'll go nuts over the movie! It's on Netflix. The silliest part is Sarah Palin as POTUS, but...

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Then you'll go nuts over the movie! It's on Netflix. The silliest part is Sarah Palin as POTUS, but...


OMG, I want to save anyone the pain of watching the version of this movie which is available on Netflix. I had planned to watch the movie that was associated with the trailer that I had linked to in my previous post. I thought I was going to be watching the original 2012 movie on Netflix when instead it was the 2019 sequel... and it was freakin' awful. The original may be better, but I'm not all that keen now to bother finding out.
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OMG, I want to save anyone the pain of watching the version of this movie which is available on Netflix. I had planned to watch the movie that was associated with the trailer that I had linked to in my previous post. I thought I was going to be watching the original 2012 movie on Netflix when instead it was the 2019 sequel... and it was freakin' awful. The original may be better, but I'm not all that keen now to bother finding out.


Is this the point where I say "Told you so ?" and direct you to Red vs Dead...

Because you know....

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Ice/water according to some reports. Useful for fuel and life sustaining needs.

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We should probably leave the moon alone. Over the long term it would likely be a bad idea. The moon is already slowly drifting away from us.. Start removing large amounts of mass from it over time through mining would likely speed up that process, and it wouldn't take removing as much mass as you might think to make it happen..

So with our luck the moon would drift away rapidly, or just end up breaking apart as we hollow it out and Earth gravity continues to tug on it with the same force.

Then we will end up in an post apocalypse wasteland, rules by robots, monsters and wizards!

I mean, cmon, has nobody ever seen Thundarr the Barbarian?

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Hail the Trans-Moon International Partnership or "TIP."

Actually, it's the NASA-led "Artemis Accords."


"Eight nations sign NASA-led Artemis Accords to guide moon exploration"
 
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NASA developed the Artemis Accords to partner with other nations to set basic principles to guide robotic and crewed lunar exploration.


"Chow down" with Denise Chow for NBC News; October 14, 2020.
https://www.nbcnews.com/sci...exploration-n1243398

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HRC's emails?
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Hmm, mining the moon?

Gives a whole new thought of NIMBY doesn't it.

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Originally posted by Jonesy:

We should probably leave the moon alone. Over the long term it would likely be a bad idea.



Logic and long term thinking, its something lacking in the world these days.
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