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Shop-Vac by theogre
Started on: 09-27-2020 01:43 AM
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Report this Post09-27-2020 01:43 AM Click Here to See the Profile for theogreClick Here to visit theogre's HomePageSend a Private Message to theogreEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Is Closed.
https://www.pennlive.com/bu...ted-400-jobless.html
https://www.hbsdealer.com/s...abruptly-closes-shop
or inet search for more.

While S-V blame CCPvirus and related economy and fail to sell itself... is likely also part of getting sued for false HP etc in S-V ads. Inet search shop vac lawsuit
(Others like SB&D have been or will be soon sued for same.)
Why did they claim False HP? US Electric "law" on 120v 15a plug only allows a single device pulling ~ 12a max = ~ 1.5hp and that w/ about best Efficiency and Power Factor.
Anything w/ these plugs is under "15a rules..."
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img source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NEMA_connector

Also shopvac.com etc was put down by the "management" not problems w/ servers/services.

Note: While some parts has equivalent parts in other brands but not all filters like many reusable types will not interchange.
So If you use reusables or bags find parts now or very soon.
Example: Some Rigid bags fit S-V and other not.

Bags?
Many use bags even tho not required because easier and cleaner to empty the units. Plus the bags keep more of fine crap in them when they are on.
Normal paper/foam often leak crap often because of user install them wrong etc. Even if you use reusable filter, these can leak at top bottom or both.
I use reusable filter and bags in one unit, while not = to High $ HEPA filter but helps more when using inside of a small space or in home.

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Report this Post09-27-2020 03:14 AM Click Here to See the Profile for PatrickClick Here to Email PatrickSend a Private Message to PatrickEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

Well, that sucks.
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Report this Post09-27-2020 10:48 AM Click Here to See the Profile for RWDPLZClick Here to visit RWDPLZ's HomePageSend a Private Message to RWDPLZEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Wow talk about the end of an era. I've been real impressed with my Ridgid vac if anyone's looking for an alternative.

More than likely a competitor will pick up the pieces for pennies on the dollar when they start selling off assets, probably moving the equipment and tooling to Mexico or China and re-starting production eventually. In the meantime good luck getting bags and filters.
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Report this Post09-27-2020 11:07 AM Click Here to See the Profile for maryjaneSend a Private Message to maryjaneEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
This will definitely leave a big vacuum in the shop tool sector, but I'm sure someone else will suck up the now available market share pretty quick.

I have 2 of them. One is pretty big and at least 30 years old. The other is small, only a few years old that doubles as a leaf blower which I have no use for except to clean the dead bugs off the bug zapper...Sometimes also use it to get the dried cow poop out of my truck floor board..
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Originally posted by maryjane:

This will definitely leave a big vacuum in the shop tool sector, but I'm sure someone else will suck up the now available market share pretty quick.


A Chinese manufacturer...
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I recently got a ridged vac for the first time. Good bye shop vac. They suck in comparison to Ridgid.
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Report this Post09-28-2020 02:03 AM Click Here to See the Profile for theogreClick Here to visit theogre's HomePageSend a Private Message to theogreEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Well I have 4 Shop-Vac's... all bought used cheap or given and different sizes. (Also given was sears clone but trashed that except motor.)
Most parts like hoses tubes and heads got same way.

About only new part was very long hose kit to clean inside of cars so don't have to drag unit around.

Free and cheap shop-vac's (real and other brands) are easy to find because of many reasons but some main ones seem to be:
Many don't need them when whatever job is done.
Most units are too big and storage is a problem.
No-one want to clean them, not even small ones, often enough to prevent crap rotting in them.
Many "die" because people never bothered to use the OE Paper over Foam filter set right. Worse, Paper layer only for dry crap but no-one take that out before sucking "water." Some have reusables bad for same reasons. Even Wet reusables can "rot" or plug hard if let wet and stored. Is why Nearly all I've seen have just the foam or no filter because of this.

3 of mine needed some cleaning etc which also needed to take apart motor head because the last problem.

Few day ago, I bought 2 extra reusable, 1 extra foam, plenty of the basic paper filters and some small bags. I figured should last decades for my use of them.
Note: The basic paper is reusable too but doesn't last as the "engine air cleaner" types.

Install Note: Forget about using OE band to keep paper over foam in place. Use big hose clamp instead. If possible get one w/ "wing nut" screw or solder/weld a washer on the screw. Much easier to install w/o ripping paper or foam. Some "zip ties" have a release tab might work too. All you need is tighten just enough so won't move when motor is off.

Before you say other brands beat Shop-Vac...
Other brands/models has reusable "engine type" filter as OE. Some of these are Dry Only and need to remove before wet use. Even if Filters are Wet rated... If you suck "water" then Do Not store them until the filter is Clean and Dry. Part of Why I trash the sears clone was the plugged canister filter. Likely was dirty to start then got wet and dirt became "concrete" and wreck the high $ filter. This unit didn't give a cheap filter option like Shop-Vac units does.

Shop-Vac w/ low suck problem likely has plug basic paper. Clean or replace it.
S-V w/ reusable filters often out performs same unit w/ OE paper over foam filter set. More so if you suck up drywall dust and related.
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Report this Post09-28-2020 03:23 AM Click Here to See the Profile for MidEngineManiacSend a Private Message to MidEngineManiacEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I picked one up at a yard sale without a filter for 5 bucks last spring. Just used electrical tape and a shop rag to make a temporary filter which I've never gotten around to replacing. Its been working just fine rigged up like that for months.
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Shop-Vac’s Facebook page, whose last post was in March, states it also has manufacturing facilities in Binghamton, N.Y., and Shenzhen, China, and distributes products from Williamsport Burlington; Ontario, Canada, Guadalajara; Mexico; Melbourne, Australia; and Shenzhen.


They already have a factory in China, and one in New York. Those were not mentioned as being affected. Was thinking I should get a Shop-Vac. Maybe I'll shop elsewhere.

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updates
Shop-Vac is closing worldwide... Oct 08, 2020
https://www.prnewswire.com/...tions-301148989.html
 
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Hilco Global will be assisting the company with selling all assets, including intellectual property, real estate, inventory, and machinery & equipment. In addition, Hilco Global will be consulting the company on winding down its manufacturing production and collecting outstanding accounts receivable.


Nov 9, 2020
https://www.inquirer.com/bu...miller-20201109.html

 
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But not all was well at Shop Vac. Last year the company hastily shut down a warehouse in New York state, leading to lost orders, Fisher said. Its manufacturer in China went on strike. Bills went unpaid. Promised pay increases were delayed. There were layoffs before Christmas, and more this year after the coronavirus hit.
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Shop Vac’s chief executive, Jonathan Miller, 72, whose father had founded the company in 1953, had already left Williamsport without a word and moved to California, employees said. His daughter, Felice Miller, 41, who was named president and chief operating officer a year ago, also left town. She maintained a residence in California’s Bay Area.

Even the China factory had trouble...
 
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He said Shop Vac ran into cash-flow problems with big-box retailers, which account for most sales of the smaller Shop Vac model, many of which are manufactured in China. Its Chinese supplier went on strike after learning that Shop Vac was planning to shift manufacturing to a Vietnamese site, Fink said.
IOW China Labor cost more money then new Sweatshops in another Communist county many are moving to. CCP likely have problems w/ Vietnam too because of same.

You like other "Shop Vac" Brands? Shop-vac made/makes many of others...
 
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The Williamsport plant also manufactured wet-dry vacuums for other companies, including Craftsman.

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That sux (no pun intended). Shop-Vac is has been such a household name for so long, they've gotten genericafied (I'm sure that's a word). Like Xerox and Kleenex. People refer to any heavy duty vacuum as a Shop Vac just like any facial tissue is a Kleenex or any copier is a Xerox, no matter what brand someones actually talking about. Sad but it is what it is.
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Report this Post11-19-2020 02:59 AM Click Here to See the Profile for theogreClick Here to visit theogre's HomePageSend a Private Message to theogreEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Or Bic(US) and Biro(UK) for cheap pens.
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Report this Post11-19-2020 07:13 AM Click Here to See the Profile for maryjaneSend a Private Message to maryjaneEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by Monkeyman:

That sux (no pun intended). Shop-Vac is has been such a household name for so long, they've gotten genericafied (I'm sure that's a word). Like Xerox and Kleenex. People refer to any heavy duty vacuum as a Shop Vac just like any facial tissue is a Kleenex or any copier is a Xerox, no matter what brand someones actually talking about. Sad but it is what it is.


Thirsty...
Want a coke?
Sure.
What kind?

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Originally posted by maryjane:


Thirsty...
Want a coke?
Sure.
What kind?


Yes except that's a bit regional. Down here in the south, everything is a Coke. When I was in Indiana, everything was a "pop". Farther north and on the east coast, it's a 'soda". Confused me when I moved down here a few years ago. Someone asked if I wanted a "Coke". I didn't so I declined then I asked for a pop. They looked at me a bit funny.
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Originally posted by Monkeyman:

Someone asked if I wanted a "Coke". I didn't so I declined then I asked for a pop. They looked at me a bit funny.

As a southerner by birth, I got a chuckle out of that.

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