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'Alligators not good choice for prospective pet owners.' NatGeo. Who'da thunk? by rinselberg
Started on: 07-31-2020 08:55 PM
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I so did not see this one coming. I feel blindsided. Why hasn't the President--or better yet, Dr Facui--been warning us about this?

I think the interesting part here is just how much reading is packed into this one article. I'm not going to put it through Read-o-Meter, but I think I'm looking at several minutes from end to end, for an attentive reading of it.

This is the tagline:
 
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You're basically dealing with a dinosaur.


 
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A rise in the abandoned reptiles [alligators] around the United States—including two recently found in a Kansas creek—has raised concern among experts.

Tina Deines for National Geographic; July 31, 2020.
https://www.nationalgeograp...0/07/pet-alligators/
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Originally posted by rinselberg:

You're basically dealing with a dinosaur.





Reptilian brain.

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They are top of the food chain but tend to self destruct here at my place, tho that wasn't always the case.
(picture to follow later tonight)
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Originally posted by maryjane:

They are top of the food chain but tend to self destruct here at my place, tho that wasn't always the case.
(picture to follow later tonight)


They are supper cool as hatchlings. As they get about a foot long, the luster is gone.

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What makes alligator hatchlings so attractive, from a human perspective?

Do they seem playful? I guess--not having had any experience myself--that hatchling and very young alligators in captivity like to move around and respond positively to the human presence (like being touched or fed by a human hand?) When I think of a fully grown alligator, I think of an animal that is motionless, in a sleep-like state, or lying in ambush.

I just want to make sure that I am not clueless ("out in left field") about this.



Left field at Boston's Fenway Park, where I don't want to be, in terms of my Alligator IQ.
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Evidently, I gave the pictures of my father feeding a rather large gator some chicken dangled on the end of a long pole from the pond bank. He had done it for years, almost daily from the time the animal first showed up as a 3-4' long juvenile.The gator finally got too adventuresome, began coming farther up the bank and my father decided enough was enough.
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Originally posted by rinselberg:

What makes alligator hatchlings so attractive, from a human perspective?

Do they seem playful? I guess--not having had any experience myself--that hatchling and very young alligators in captivity like to move around and respond positively to the human presence (like being touched or fed by a human hand?) When I think of a fully grown alligator, I think of an animal that is motionless, in a sleep-like state, or lying in ambush.

I just want to make sure that I am not clueless ("out in left field") about this.



Left field at Boston's Fenway Park, where I don't want to be, in terms of my Alligator IQ.


They are, from a very young age, incredibly inquisitive and all but fearless. You have to give them a reason not to come right up to you.

From about 6-7 years ago, one I had decide to take over my dock.


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I once knew a guy who collected the ash fall-out of Mt. Readout in 5-gallon buckets as it rained down in Alaska so that he would have enough to snort for years to come.
He believed this was a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity that would make him live forever.

I tried to tell him that it wasn't some volcanic "glass-o-the-Gods".
He said that was only because I believed in Quaaludes.

He died 6 years later of heart failure.
And i'm here to tell you about it.

Suck it, volcano.

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I think it's Mt Redoubt. Although if that "dude" was getting his stash from Mt Readout--well, maybe that was his mistake.

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Originally posted by maryjane:

They are top of the food chain but tend to self destruct here at my place, tho that wasn't always the case.
(picture to follow later tonight)


Exploding Gators? Sounds terrifying! :P

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I'm waiting for the movie...

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I did a report, back in college, that farming alligators for meat and leather trade was one of the most cost effective animals you can raise. In many terms, such as square feet, energy input, product yield and etc.

The only issue they had was actually demand. If they could market the meat more than just novelty and moved towards mainstream acceptance, you could have a much better sustainable meat/leather source that would be much better than cattle or hogs.

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My wife is a Gator... so by default, she refuses to eat alligator. She also doesn't like Burt Reynolds (as you can figure), and really likes Tom Petty.

Incidentally, she can't stand Miami Vice or Don Johnson (who played a failed UF quarterback).


EDIT: But OMG... gator-bites are amazing... seriously. They're like spicy chicken nuggets.

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EDIT: But OMG... gator-bites are amazing... seriously. They're like spicy chicken nuggets.


Before you leave Texas ... try some rattlesnake, . Meh, just kidding. Too many bones like some fish, and tastes lick chicken.

Gator bites amazing ? Why yes, they are. I have seen nature documentaries. Where a Croc, Alligator would be close to the shore and feed from another animal getting a drink.
Who would guess that they could do this ... :



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Before you leave Texas ... try some rattlesnake, . Meh, just kidding. Too many bones like some fish, and tastes lick chicken.

Gator bites amazing ? Why yes, they are. I have seen nature documentaries. Where a Croc, Alligator would be close to the shore and feed from another animal getting a drink.
Who would guess that they could do this ... :





Damn, that is a crazy jump.

But seriously... I will totally try rattlesnake. Is there a place that actually serves that? I've been lucky enough to not find one in my yard.
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Kicks roadhouse at 53 and 20 in Hamilton. Bit of a drive to get there. If it's even still there.

The snake is kinda bleh. Alligator tastes like swamp water... But I highly recommend the bison steak.

Also a middle of nowhere place just north of Tallahassee. Damned if I remember the name, but it's got like 4 tables, sweet tea to die for and a mixed plate of snake and chicken . Walk out for under 15 bucks.

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Originally posted by MidEngineManiac:

Kicks roadhouse at 53 and 20 in Hamilton. Bit of a drive to get there. If it's even still there.

The snake is kinda bleh. Alligator tastes like swamp water... But I highly recommend the bison steak.

Also a middle of nowhere place just north of Tallahassee. Damned if I remember the name, but it's got like 4 tables, sweet tea to die for and a mixed plate of snake and chicken . Walk out for under 15 bucks.




MEM... if you can remember the name of that place in Tallahassee, I will be indebted to you. I always make the pilgrimage back to the great state of Florida (best state in the union) at least once a year, and I always pass through Tallahassee. It would be awesome... thanks!
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