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Truth or twist? You be the judge. by 2.5
Started on: 07-28-2020 03:55 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_a7dQXilCo

If you checked "do not see posts having to do with politics" you will not see this post..
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Originally posted by 2.5:
If you checked "do not see posts having to do with politics" you will not see this post..

Having a little "fun" with that one? Really?

What comes next?
 
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If Pinocchio were to say "Even as we speak, my nose is getting longer" would he be lying--or telling the truth?


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A rhetorical question from a fairy-tale character.....really?

As a student of history for my entire life, I would say that the Prager U video hit the nail squarely on its head.

Prove me wrong.
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Just a bump for folks who have an interest and wish to discuss.....

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Originally posted by olejoedad:

A rhetorical question from a fairy-tale character.....really?

As a student of history for my entire life, I would say that the Prager U video hit the nail squarely on its head.

Prove me wrong.

My message has nothing to do with that video presentation from Prager U.

I was (am) speaking to that one remark from 2.5 that I replicated in the Quote (from 2.5) format, and it's not a remark about the video, per se.

Think about exactly what he said.

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It is a shame that this information will never be heard by those who need it most.

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Report this Post07-29-2020 03:07 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 2.5Send a Private Message to 2.5Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by 2.5:
If you checked "do not see posts having to do with politics" you will not see this post..


 
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Originally posted by rinselberg:
Having a little "fun" with that one? Really?



Merely a comment sort of pointing out that when people close themselves off from other peoples thoughts, they literally close themselves off, limiting their knowledge and awareness.

...Also made me a little less disgruntled while marking the post "politics" as per forum recommendations.

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Were you fully aware at the moment when you said that, that you were setting up a kind of logical paradox? Just the way you worded it. I guess what you were really saying was "There are forum members who are not going to see this because they do not have their Politics checkbox selected."

I was just trying to be humorous.

Quite some years ago now, I was talking on this forum about a quantum physics experiment that was set up to probe the idea of "reverse causation", where it looks to the human mind as if the measurable effect or consequence of an action is observed to precede or anticipate the action in our human timeline. So, "Effect... Cause" instead of "Cause... Effect."

I was talking about messages and sending messages (paradoxically) backwards in time. But I said "sending messages backward and forward in time." Sending a message forward in time is no more paradoxical than writing myself a note with the expectation of my seeing it later to be reminded of something. Who hasn't done that, like maybe yesterday or earlier today?

Another forum member (I think it might have been Jake_Dragon) replied, saying very dryly, "I send messages forward in time almost every day." (Or words to that effect.)

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Under the current rules they will have to apologize and grovel before asking for forgiveness with a promise never to do it again. Then all will lose their jobs and be banned from Twitter and Facebook. Any statues to any Democrats will have to be torn down by a mob.
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Originally posted by 2.5:
If you checked "do not see posts having to do with politics" you will not see this post..


Nor will they see your statement, .

I label all my threads political, whether they are or not.

That lady, Carol Swain, is an interesting lady.

Thank you for the video.
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Report this Post07-30-2020 03:17 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 2.5Send a Private Message to 2.5Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Best that can happen is my little statement inspires someone who has not yet blocked "politics" to never do so.
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Originally posted by 2.5:

Best that can happen is my little statement inspires someone who has not yet blocked "politics" to never do so.


The method I use for blocking information who's existence I do not want to be aware of is...oh, wait, I don't block any information.
Because I'm an adult and can objectively* intake information at will.

Or just not read it, which is not very often.
Even trainwrecks have something to teach, after you get past the "personal impact" you apply to it.

Between "News" and "Information", i'll take information every time.
"News" comes with a suggestion.
A suggestion that somehow "News" is "Truth".
It never was.

"Information" is just that.
You process it with your cache of personal experience and current level of intellect, and formulate a "conclusion" open enough to allow for change/growth of that conclusion should future added information present itself.

Figuratively "Burning Books" (ignoring information) will never give you the full picture.
Which unfortunatly is neither here nor there.

Because my experience tells me people will believe what they want.
And explore no farther.
"I want it to be true" is the length of their "vetting" process.

For them, comfort is more important than truth.

* in a way that is not influenced by personal feelings or opinions.

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Originally posted by Boondawg:


The method I use for blocking information who's existence I do not want to be aware of is...oh, wait, I don't block any information.
Because I'm an adult and can objectively* intake information at will.

Or just not read it, which is not very often.
Even trainwrecks have something to teach, after you get past the "personal impact" you apply to it.

Between "News" and "Information", i'll take information every time.
"News" comes with a suggestion.
A suggestion that somehow "News" is "Truth".
It never was.

"Information" is just that.
You process it with your cache of personal experience and current level of intellect, and formulate a "conclusion" open enough to allow for change/growth of that conclusion should future added information present itself.

Figuratively "Burning Books" (ignoring information) will never give you the full picture.
Which unfortunatly is neither here nor there.

Because my experience tells me people will believe what they want.
And explore no farther.
"I want it to be true" is the length of their "vetting" process.

For them, comfort is more important than truth.

* in a way that is not influenced by personal feelings or opinions.



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Originally posted by Boondawg:


The method I use for blocking information who's existence I do not want to be aware of is...oh, wait, I don't block any information.
Because I'm an adult and can objectively* intake information at will.

Or just not read it, which is not very often.
Even trainwrecks have something to teach, after you get past the "personal impact" you apply to it.

Between "News" and "Information", i'll take information every time.
"News" comes with a suggestion.
A suggestion that somehow "News" is "Truth".
It never was.

"Information" is just that.
You process it with your cache of personal experience and current level of intellect, and formulate a "conclusion" open enough to allow for change/growth of that conclusion should future added information present itself.

Figuratively "Burning Books" (ignoring information) will never give you the full picture.
Which unfortunatly is neither here nor there.

Because my experience tells me people will believe what they want.
And explore no farther.
"I want it to be true" is the length of their "vetting" process.

For them, comfort is more important than truth.

* in a way that is not influenced by personal feelings or opinions.



You are truly a sage! What you posted was excellent. Thank you for sharing.
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