America's strength has always been the family.

America needs fathers. Some communities in our Republic have been stripped of them.

Thanks LBJ, the Great Society experiment, and the Democratic Party.

Prove to me I am incorrect.

quote Originally posted by olejoedad: America's strength has always been the family. America needs fathers. Some communities in our Republic have been stripped of them. Thanks LBJ, the Great Society experiment, and the Democratic Party. Prove to me I am incorrect.

No, you are very correct. Our foundation as a country is predicated on the strength of the family unit. It's rugged individualism and communities supporting each other that's made us succeed. Even in cases of strong individuals that come from broken homes, it's always because of a strong parent that got them on the right path.

The problem with the radical left agenda is that they ultimately believe (as other Socialist and Communist dictatorships) that the Government is the solution to all problems. They believe essentially that the Government is "the family." For most Republicans and moderate Democrats, it seemed odd when people and the media were referring to President Obama as a "father figure" to America. The rest of us were perplexed, not understanding why anyone would look to the President of the United States as a father figure???

But this is how the left imagines things... they believe the Government needs to step in and be the parent. What they don't understand (or maybe they do, and that's the problem) is that the more the Government steps in to be the parent, the less the parents actually do the parenting. As a result, you have essentially what has happened in the black community. After John F. Kennedy went against his party and supported Republicans in the passage of the 1964 Civil Rights Act, the Democrats have been exploiting blacks with freebies and promises. The left has unilaterally destroyed the black family unit.

The left wants the government to be a "father figure" for the adults. They now have to remind us to wash our hands and are discussing our allowance.

Your parents want you to stop teasing your sister.

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Don't you guys ever get sick of spewing the same old clichés?

Intellectually, don't you get even a little bit suspicious that the problem always seems to be somebody else's beliefs?
It's always somebody else's party, somebody else's kids, some other side.
But miraculously, your "side" is always "the right side".

The scope of your preferential blindness is stunning.

Yeah, America is the only country that believes in family.
Like the families that came from other countries to found & build this country weren't trying to make a better life for their families...
I mean, you do realize they weren't from America, right?

The length and breadth some will go to to advertise their ignorance is stunning.*

It's a Father teaching his son perseverance.
The video does not refer to heritage or politics.
That's simply the bad wiring in your head.

I guess for some, imagining shadows is easier than imagining love.

*I could very well break down the fallacy of each of your posts point-by-point, but to what end?
You'll believe whatever gives you the greatest amount of feelings of superiority over the most amount of people/things.
You need your shadows.

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quote Originally posted by Boondawg: Don't you guys ever get sick of spewing the same old clichés?

quote Originally posted by olejoedad: America's strength has always been the family. America needs fathers. Some communities in our Republic have been stripped of them. Thanks LBJ, the Great Society experiment, and the Democratic Party. Prove to me I am incorrect.

Sounds to me like Joe is exactly correct.
There's an old joke about "...the height of confusion being 'Father's Day' in the 'hood."
While it's a sad joke, really, it's more true than not.
Stereotypes happen for a reason.

That was completely due to LBJ's welfare policies, which made it financially beneficial for women to have as many "unsupported" children as possible.
Of course, it was no accident that it was "marketed" to the inner-city Black people. (Of course, the hillbilly meth heads have taken advantage, too.)

So yeah... fathers are important. Without them, children become ungovernable.

quote Originally posted by Raydar: So yeah... fathers are important. Without them, children become ungovernable.

Not all of us.

quote Originally posted by Boondawg: That's simply the bad wiring in your head.

Said the 8th grade dropout, drug and alcohol abusing, bowling shoe, boy...

Your little "sermons" are like the KKK trying to lecture on tolerance.

Your sole purpose in life is to serve as an example of FAILURE .

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quote Originally posted by Boondawg: Intellectually, don't you get even a little bit suspicious that the problem always seems to be somebody else's beliefs? It's always somebody else's party, somebody else's kids, some other side. But miraculously, your "side" is always "the right side".

There are of course quite a few parameters one could use to choose one's side, but choosing one you believe is true and right is generally what happens unless one lies to themself.
If I found out I was not on the side of truth and the side I saw as correct, I would switch.

I would add however its hard to talk as if there are only two sides. Powers that be do love to pit individuals against eachother so they can drive them like cattle.

quote Originally posted by Boondawg: The length and breadth some will go to to advertise their ignorance is stunning.* *I could very well break down the fallacy of each of your posts point-by-point, but to what end?

To what end ? It would prove you have no clue as to what you talk about. Again. If you dared tried, it would prove the length and breadth you will go to to advertise your ignorance, which is stunning.

I double dog dare you !

What does the Black community think ?

From Black Community News. It starts off innocuous enough.

quote The saddest thing about out-of-wedlock pregnancy in the United States is the children are, for all intents and purposes, fatherless. A man is more emotionally and financially invested in his children when he lives with them and is married to their mother. Children who don’t live with their biological fathers are at higher risk for such social pathologies as out-of-wedlock pregnancies, school truancy and drop-outs, and criminality. The majority of juvenile delinquents and adult prisoners grew up in female-headed households. Fatherless children are much more likely to suffer physical abuse, including sexual, because of the men their mothers bring home.

That would be fatherless children of all races. It goes on to say ...

quote Rather than mostly white people or conservatives talking about the problem, the documentary is about black people talking about the problem.

quote The rate at which black children are born into unmarried homes in the U.S. has gone from a quarter to three quarters. There are more black children living without biological fathers in the home than children who do. Illegitimacy rates have risen across the board, but it impacts black children the most.

I just can't agree it impacts black children the most.

Here is what a White woke person thinks ? You might like this. From the Puff, Puff, Pass, Post.

quote No, Most Black Kids Are Not Fatherless Yet, the author of the article, is also the author of a book he is selling, All In. In the article he says "The lead researcher told me the study..." with no mention of what study. He also says "Many children of divorced parents don’t share a legal address with their fathers but still see their fathers often. They’re not fatherless." Ok, part time fathers. Kind of like having a part time car, . "Fatherlessness is still a bigger problem statistically in the black community than it is among other racial groups. Some kids who don’t live with their dads really are fatherless. And when I examined Census reports about black children, I found that slightly more than half don’t have the same legal residence as their fathers." "Some fathers have died, at times killed in violence for example, so they’re obviously not included in studies that look at fathers. And some men of any race become what I call “serial impregnators,” having lots of children without raising them — more children than the good dads do."

quote "Many children of divorced parents don’t share a legal address with their fathers but still see their fathers often. They’re not fatherless.

Yes, part time fathers are also a problem.

Here are some more Black community opinions.

Candace Owens and Larry Elder.

Father Absence Is the Biggest Issue Facing Black America
Sep 16, 2019
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Which poses a bigger threat to black communities: Racism? Or absent fathers?

Children who grow up without a father are:

- 5 times more likely to live in poverty

- 9 times more likely to drop out of school

- 20 times more likely to end up in prison

Candace Owens and Larry Elder show just how important black fathers are in turning boys into responsible and happy men--and how their absence has had a tragic impact on millions of black Americans.

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Former NAACP president Kweisi Mfume, when asked if white racism or the absence of fathers posed a greater threat to black Americans, replied without hesitation, “The absence of black fathers.”

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quote Black Lives Matter openly seeks to “disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family,” the only institution that, through marriage, binds children to their fathers. The BLM core statement of belief mentions black mothers, black families, black parents, and even black trans women. Yet nowhere does it mention black fathers, even though when black fathers have access to their children, they prove to be more involved parents than their white and Hispanic counterparts.

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quote Originally posted by Jake_Dragon: Not all of us.

No. Of course not. Speaking in generalities. Some people rise above, in spite of the adversity.