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A 100-year pandemic. A 500-year flood event. And in the midst of all that? Really? by rinselberg
Started on: 05-21-2020 03:49 AM
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It was MSNBC's "The 11th Hour" with Brian Williams. Reporting on Midland County in Michigan, where the rain-swollen Tittabawassee River has overwhelmed the Edenville and Sanford dams, damaging the city of Midland and forcing 11,000 residents to evacuate, with a Dow Chemical plant ominously in the crosshairs. Michigan's Governor, Gretchen Whitmer, has described it without exaggeration as a 500-year flood event during a 100-year disease pandemic, comparing the Coronavirus to the 1918 Spanish influenza. And then I saw this:

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Maybe someone else has something to say about this? If not here in Totally O/T... one of the other sections of the forum?

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There's a thread about this in General Fiero Chat - Fieros Forever flooded!!!
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Report this Post05-21-2020 10:22 AM Click Here to See the Profile for olejoedadClick Here to Email olejoedadSend a Private Message to olejoedadEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
There are two threads.
rinse, you should expand your horizons, there are lots of interesting things on the Forum.
Certainly a lot more interesting than most of the crap you come up with.

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Originally posted by rinselberg:
Maybe someone else has something to say about this?


I smell politics ! Are the Tree Huggers to blame ?


From Counterfeit News Network.

(CNN)Federal regulators have warned for more than 20 years of inadequate spillways at a Michigan dam that was breached Tuesday, sending floodwaters raging into a city of more than 40,000.

Finally the Feds took operating rights from the a licensed operator, Boyce Hydro Power LLC. I suppose that is the good news. The bad news is that the Feds gave the rights to the State of Michigan.

From the The Detroit News.

After federal regulators pulled the license of a Midland County dam because of the high risk it posed to the public in 2018, it ceded oversight to state regulators.
But with less stringent state safety rules to protect people and property, Michigan regulators turned their attention, instead, to the protection of delicate underwater life.


 
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When the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission pulled the plug on the Edenville Dam power plant in 2018, it had a perhaps unintended consequence. It put the dam under state regulation, where it was believed to meet less stringent capacity rules and where its alleged efforts to maintain safety exposed it to state environmental regulation.


Boyce Hydro Power LLC lowered the lake level with an eye for downstream safety, a move which had the tree huggers and lake property owners up in arms. They were sued.

 
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The next two years after the Feds ceded power to Michigan, state regulators appear to have focused increasingly on what they said was the company's unauthorized draw down of winter water levels of Wixom Lake, which they said created a danger to freshwater mussels. The state accused Boyce of illegally lowering Wixom's water levels, killing millions of mussels.


Oh, it gets much worse, .

 
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Gov. Gretchen Whitmer and Attorney General Dana Nessel said Wednesday they would explore every legal recourse to pursue those responsible.

"This was a known problem for a while and that's why it's important that we do our due diligence and take action," Whitmer said during a press briefing in Midland on Wednesday.

The transfer left the state to play catch up on a case that had been in the federal domain for decades.

"The state has only had authority over the dam for a year and a half," said Nick Assendelft, a spokesman for the Department of Environment Great Lakes and Energy.

"Having not had a previous regulatory role we started from Ground Zero in our assessment of various aspects of the dam’s condition and capacity."


Ground Zero, . The State was well aware of the history of it's acquisition.

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Report this Post05-22-2020 04:27 PM Click Here to See the Profile for darkhorizonSend a Private Message to darkhorizonEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
"ground zero" was "hey, its unsafe to keep the lake levels anywhere near where they were. lol
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Report this Post05-22-2020 05:35 PM Click Here to See the Profile for theogreClick Here to visit theogre's HomePageSend a Private Message to theogreEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Summery Video...


In short...
Is Not a "500 year" Flood. Not even a "100 year" Flood.

FERC pulled the Fed License after Many Years of Problems w/ this project. Then BHP and Part of State Tried to Drop Water Level.
But State and Lake Property Owners Made Dam Owners/Operators to restore water level behind the Weak Earth Dam.

Now Whitmer et al is claiming they Didn't know the Dam was Weak? 100%
Is only to fight all lawsuits likely already filed if CCPvirus panic didn't close the Courts in many places.
Lake Property Owners and their "HOA" by whatever name is called need lawyers fast because likely get sued too.

Anyone living down stream of any old dams have problems. More so when labeled as high-hazard dams like Oroville in CA and many more. This failure here is not unique and more failures will happen.

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Heh. The State wanted, chose, to defend the mussles, over the safety of citizens, businesses, homes, ... roads ...

It said lowering the water level would change the water environment, threatening the mussels. Forget that the water environment was changed when the dam was built. Now that the dams failed, duhh, the water environment was lowered, endangering the mussels, .

To add to the stupid, the flooding could have lasting environmental effects after waters from the Tittabawassee and Tobacco rivers mixed with a Dow Chemical containment pond and inundated a federal Superfund clean-up site downriver that was caused by Dow's release of dioxins years ago. So much for all wildlife. Don't eat the fish.
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Report this Post05-23-2020 11:48 AM Click Here to See the Profile for 1985FieroGTClick Here to Email 1985FieroGTSend a Private Message to 1985FieroGTEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Meh my dad and I have already joked over the years that the fish glowed in the dark already. Also Remember three eyed blinky fish from the simpsons.

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Also, I don’t understand the dimwits in the government anyways... the mussels in wixom lake are invasive nuisance species.... it boggles my mind of the level of stupidity.
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Also, now that wixom lake is nothing but a mud pit now, the problem is hopefully solved and the mussels are killed...
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