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Gunna ask a dumb question about garden tools... by 82-T/A [At Work]
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I'm re-landscaping my front yard, and I'm looking to install low voltage lighting in front of my house. I'm trying to figure out the name of an electric or gas powered tool that allows you to cut channels into the ground, but I cannot remember what it's called. It's similar to a chain-saw of sorts, but you use it in the ground, and it operates at a slower speed. The telecommunications and power companies use them to dig trenches to lay their cabling.

Is there anything like this that they sell for the consumer that's hand-held? I don't want anything huge, and I'm probably not going to go very deep anyway, but I want to make it as straight as possible because I intend to put all the cabling in conduit as well.

(P.S. I will call the local utilities to flag it out for me before I start digging).


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You're thinking of a ditch witch. Can usually rent them from rental equipment places.
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Originally posted by Fats:

Ditch Witch.



Thanks Fats!!! That's what I was talking about. Do you know if they sell something like a hand-held version? Maybe I just need to not be lazy... but after three days of tearing out everything, and moving several tons of stone, I'm just being a lazy SOB... I didn't see anything at Home Depot, and with the Social Distancing crap... there was no one around to ask. But maybe I just need to dig that **** by hand...
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Trace out your path with earthworms and let Bob do the digging.
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Oh **** ! It's called a trencher... and they have hand-held ones! Awesome! I found it when looking at pictures of Ditch Witches... thanks!
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Originally posted by williegoat:

Trace out your path with earthworms and let Bob do the digging.



So true!!!
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Originally posted by williegoat:

Trace out your path with earthworms and let Bob do the digging.


I see Bob more as an artist than as a manual laborer.

[This message has been edited by Patrick (edited 03-22-2020).]

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Originally posted by williegoat:

Trace out your path with earthworms and let Bob do the digging.

Good luck with getting any of them to do ditch work or paint...they're notorious drunks.

[This message has been edited by maryjane (edited 03-22-2020).]

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Dont strike water We dont turn them on but all of the yards in our block have irrigation installed in the front yards.
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Depending on how deep you want to run the wires, you might try a grass edger.
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I have 2 you can have and I never ever want to see them again........
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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
Oh **** ! It's called a trencher... and they have hand-held ones! Awesome! I found it when looking at pictures of Ditch Witches... thanks!


They have hand held ones ? I have never seen one. Link ?

I was going to say look at how a ditch witch works. Looks like a giant chain saw to me. I have not done 12V lighting but the wires/conduit can not be so big that I would rule out using my chain saw with a crap cutting chain.
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They have hand held ones ? I have never seen one. Link ?

I was going to say look at how a ditch witch works. Looks like a giant chain saw to me. I have not done 12V lighting but the wires/conduit can not be so big that I would rule out using my chain saw with a crap cutting chain.

You'd get about 4' before the dirt and sand caused so much wear and stretch in the chain that it just comes off the bar, not to mention ruining the bar and it's end roller sprocket.

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Report this Post03-23-2020 09:07 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Hank is HereSend a Private Message to Hank is HereEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Are you just looking to cover the low voltage line for the lights? Since they are low voltage the lines don't need to be burred. If you want ot bury them for cosmetic reasons just use lawn edger and tuck the line in by hand after. Or if you want it deeper rent a bed sharper and then tuck the lines in. Trenching for low voltage just seems overkill, unless you are just a glutton for punishment.
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Report this Post03-25-2020 07:25 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 82-T/A [At Work]Send a Private Message to 82-T/A [At Work]Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Thanks guys! Yes... it is low-voltage wiring. I'm trying to do it right, I suppose I could just cover it... but I hate to do things half-assed. If I absolutely don't need to bury it, then I suppose I wont. I'm just looking for the right way to do it.

I do have an axe pick too, thanks MJ... the house came with one in the shed behind the house when I bought it! haha...
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A slit trench with a flat blade shovel is all you need to hide it.
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LV wiring doesn't need to bury deep and most LV light systems don't want that.

Like olejoedad a flat blade shovel and wait until you have rain to soften the ground.

push in fairly straight.
Wiggle handle to open a slit.
move to next spot and repeat.

If ground has a lot of rocks or roots might not work well but many trenchers for this job will have problems too...

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https://youtu.be/kNqOXul-GOQ

I made one like these to bury 12/2 UF to my flagpole.
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Buy a pushplow, with a little plowpoint.
Or build one.
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