Pennock's Fiero Forum
  Totally O/T
  50 years of Yippee were all gonna die... Again.

Post New Topic  Post A Reply
Email This Page to Someone! | Printable Version


next newest topic | next oldest topic
50 years of Yippee were all gonna die... Again. by MidEngineManiac
Started on: 01-18-2020 09:16 AM
Replies: 12 (227 views)
Last post by: williegoat on 01-19-2020 02:30 PM
MidEngineManiac
Member
Posts: 29566
From: Some unacceptable view
Registered: Feb 2007


Feedback score: N/A
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 297
User Banned

Report this Post01-18-2020 09:16 AM Click Here to See the Profile for MidEngineManiacSend a Private Message to MidEngineManiacEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Nice little timeline of chicken littling.

https://dwahts.blogspot.com...apocalyptic.html?m=1
IP: Logged
PFF
System Bot
williegoat
Member
Posts: 19467
From: Glendale, AZ
Registered: Mar 2009


Feedback score: N/A
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 103
Rate this member

Report this Post01-18-2020 09:33 AM Click Here to See the Profile for williegoatClick Here to visit williegoat's HomePageSend a Private Message to williegoatEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
It has been going on my whole life. When they couldn't scare us with Nikita Khrushchev they turned to people like Rachel Carson and Paul Ehrlich.
IP: Logged
olejoedad
Member
Posts: 18047
From: Clarendon Twp., MI
Registered: May 2004


Feedback score: (5)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 205
Rate this member

Report this Post01-18-2020 09:52 AM Click Here to See the Profile for olejoedadSend a Private Message to olejoedadEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
One trait of an American is that he or she isnt afraid of anything.
We may have a concern, but we have enough confidence to realize we can overcome any obstacle.
IP: Logged
maryjane
Member
Posts: 69651
From: Copperas Cove Texas
Registered: Apr 2001


Feedback score: (4)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 441
Rate this member

Report this Post01-18-2020 11:05 AM Click Here to See the Profile for maryjaneSend a Private Message to maryjaneEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
All those fairy tales are targeted toward a specific demographic...the same demographic that was once enthralled with The National Enquirer and then, World News Daily.
Their readers have never been what one would call the brightest bulbs in the chandelier. Easily entertained and even easier hoodwinked.
IP: Logged
MadMark
Member
Posts: 2935
From: Owosso, Michigan, USA
Registered: Feb 2010


Feedback score: (4)
Leave feedback

Rate this member

Report this Post01-18-2020 11:26 AM Click Here to See the Profile for MadMarkSend a Private Message to MadMarkEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
It's always fun to go back through history to see what the predictions were, especially the dire dreadful apocalyptic ones. Many have so much hubris to think that first of all mankind can somehow control or greatly affect things like climate. But, here we still are going on with our lives on this spinning ball just the right distance from the sun to keep us not too warm and not too cold. With variations over the centuries caused not by mankind, but mostly by variations in the solar output. Modern history of climate data only goes back maybe a hundred years. The rest is speculation. And from that small slice of earth's timeline they think they can deduce where we are going to be a decade from now. Well, they haven't been able to do that and they don't even get it right on the weather either. But, the activists who want us to give up our lives and return to living in the 19th century won't give in. Even though returning to the 19th century's use of fuels would probably kill off about 75% of the world's population and all of us would be living much worse lives.
IP: Logged
Jonesy
Member
Posts: 4694
From: Bama
Registered: Oct 2009


Feedback score: N/A
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 104
Rate this member

Report this Post01-18-2020 04:51 PM Click Here to See the Profile for JonesySend a Private Message to JonesyEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Heh.. No use fretting over such things.. When the Earth tires of us humans, it'll shake us off like the fleas that we are.
IP: Logged
Tony Kania
Member
Posts: 20794
From: The Inland Northwest
Registered: Dec 2008


Feedback score:    (7)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 305
User Banned

Report this Post01-18-2020 05:32 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Tony KaniaSend a Private Message to Tony KaniaEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by Jonesy:

Heh.. No use fretting over such things.. When the Earth tires of us humans, it'll shake us off like the fleas that we are.



Sitting at a table in the Ontario Chrysler plant around 1998, I thought to myself that we are the most aggressive and destructive parasite this planet has possibly ever seen. Just gobs of steel, oil, and raw materials being drug out of the skin of our planet.
IP: Logged
rinselberg
Member
Posts: 16118
From: Sunnyvale, CA (USA)
Registered: Mar 2010


Feedback score: (2)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 147
Rate this member

Report this Post01-18-2020 11:21 PM Click Here to See the Profile for rinselbergClick Here to visit rinselberg's HomePageSend a Private Message to rinselbergEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Among the topics that were in that "Chicken Little" writeup... high altitude ozone. High altitude ozone good... blocks harmful ultraviolet radiation from reaching the earth's surface. High altitude ozone depletion... bad.

The problem for "Chicken Little" is that there actually has been international action to reduce the amount of ozone-destroying chemicals that humans release into the atmosphere. The Montreal Protocol of 1987. Can it be confirmed that this international agreement is having a positive effect? Someone seems to have confirmed it. Or wants "us" to think that they have confirmed it.

"NASA Study: First Direct Proof of Ozone Hole Recovery Due to Chemicals Ban"
Samson Reiny for NASA's Earth Science News Team; January 4, 2018.
https://www.nasa.gov/featur...due-to-chemicals-ban

 
quote
For the first time, scientists have shown through direct satellite observations of the ozone hole that levels of ozone-destroying chlorine are declining, resulting in less ozone depletion.

Measurements show that the decline in chlorine, resulting from an international ban on chlorine-containing manmade chemicals called chlorofluorocarbons (CFCs), has resulted in about 20 percent less ozone depletion during the Antarctic winter than there was in 2005 — the first year that measurements of chlorine and ozone during the Antarctic winter were made by NASA’s Aura satellite.

“We see very clearly that chlorine from CFCs is going down in the ozone hole, and that less ozone depletion is occurring because of it,” said lead author Susan Strahan, an atmospheric scientist from NASA’s Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Maryland.

CFCs are long-lived chemical compounds that eventually rise into the stratosphere, where they are broken apart by the Sun’s ultraviolet radiation, releasing chlorine atoms that go on to destroy ozone molecules. Stratospheric ozone protects life on the planet by absorbing potentially harmful ultraviolet radiation that can cause skin cancer and cataracts, suppress immune systems and damage plant life.

Two years after the discovery of the Antarctic ozone hole in 1985, nations of the world signed the Montreal Protocol on Substances that Deplete the Ozone Layer, which regulated ozone-depleting compounds. Later amendments to the Montreal Protocol completely phased out production of CFCs.

Past studies have used statistical analyses of changes in the ozone hole’s size to argue that ozone depletion is decreasing. This study is the first to use measurements of the chemical composition inside the ozone hole to confirm that not only is ozone depletion decreasing, but that the decrease is caused by the decline in CFCs.

[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 01-18-2020).]

IP: Logged
maryjane
Member
Posts: 69651
From: Copperas Cove Texas
Registered: Apr 2001


Feedback score: (4)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 441
Rate this member

Report this Post01-19-2020 12:47 AM Click Here to See the Profile for maryjaneSend a Private Message to maryjaneEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
No more true today than it was in 1964.

IP: Logged
MidEngineManiac
Member
Posts: 29566
From: Some unacceptable view
Registered: Feb 2007


Feedback score: N/A
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 297
User Banned

Report this Post01-19-2020 11:52 AM Click Here to See the Profile for MidEngineManiacSend a Private Message to MidEngineManiacEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Are you guys trying to tell me that CFCs are not bat-boy farts?

No way.
IP: Logged
Tony Kania
Member
Posts: 20794
From: The Inland Northwest
Registered: Dec 2008


Feedback score:    (7)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 305
User Banned

Report this Post01-19-2020 12:15 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Tony KaniaSend a Private Message to Tony KaniaEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I only burn the finest of plastics.

Be Positive. Carbon Positive!
IP: Logged
PFF
System Bot
olejoedad
Member
Posts: 18047
From: Clarendon Twp., MI
Registered: May 2004


Feedback score: (5)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 205
Rate this member

Report this Post01-19-2020 02:02 PM Click Here to See the Profile for olejoedadSend a Private Message to olejoedadEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I am positive that I am a carbon-based life form, and feed on other carbon-based life forms, and expell various carbon-based gasses as a result .
IP: Logged
williegoat
Member
Posts: 19467
From: Glendale, AZ
Registered: Mar 2009


Feedback score: N/A
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 103
Rate this member

Report this Post01-19-2020 02:30 PM Click Here to See the Profile for williegoatClick Here to visit williegoat's HomePageSend a Private Message to williegoatEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
¡Qué sabroso!

IP: Logged

next newest topic | next oldest topic

All times are ET (US)

Post New Topic  Post A Reply
Hop to:

Contact Us | Back To Main Page

Advertizing on PFF | Fiero Parts Vendors
PFF Merchandise | Fiero Gallery | Ogre's Cave
Real-Time Chat | Fiero Related Auctions on eBay



Copyright (c) 1999, C. Pennock