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Say It Ain't So John! DOJ 'Hillary' probe strikes out on Uranium One, Clinton 'Fund'. by rinselberg
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Justice Dept. winds down Clinton-related inquiry once championed by Trump. It found nothing of consequence.

Devlin Barrett and Matt Zapotosky for The Washington Post; January 9, 2020.
https://www.washingtonpost....d944ba77 6_story.html


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A Justice Department inquiry launched more than two years ago to mollify conservatives clamoring for more investigations of Hillary Clinton has effectively ended with no tangible results, and current and former law enforcement officials said they never expected the effort to produce much of anything.

John Huber, the U.S. attorney in Utah, was tapped in November 2017 by then-Attorney General Jeff Sessions to look into concerns raised by President Trump and his allies in Congress that the FBI had not fully pursued cases of possible corruption at the Clinton Foundation and during Clinton’s time as secretary of state, when the U.S. government decided not to block the sale of a company called Uranium One.

As a part of his review, Huber examined documents and conferred with federal law enforcement officials in Little Rock who were handling a meandering probe into the Clinton Foundation, people familiar with the matter said. Current and former officials said that Huber has largely finished and found nothing worth pursuing — though the assignment has not formally ended and no official notice has been sent to the Justice Department or to lawmakers, these people said.


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Huber’s assignment was separate from the ongoing investigation overseen by [John Durham, the U.S. Attorney for the District of Connecticut,] and Justice Department officials believe the Connecticut U.S. attorney’s work will be far more consequential. Durham is weighing whether to charge a former FBI lawyer for altering an internal email that misled other officials on a key fact related to surveillance applications to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court. He is also looking into other issues surrounding FBI and CIA activities during the Russia investigation, according to people familiar with the matter.

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I absolutely expected it, and didn't even care. I've long since given up on Democrats being held accountable for their actions. Once in a while, a low-level Democrat will be disgraced, but never the chosen elite. There is absolutely different rules for different people... always has been.
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It ain't over till the fat lady sings.

(This comment is not intended to body shame any female former democratic failed presidential candidates)
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Originally posted by olejoedad:

It ain't over till the fat lady sings.

(This comment is not intended to body shame any female former democratic failed presidential candidates)



And yet, it made me think of one person.

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Originally posted by rinselberg:
The Washington Post


 
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Originally posted by rinselberg:
"Top of the First"


As a part of his review, Huber examined documents and conferred with federal law enforcement officials in Little Rock who were handling a meandering probe into the Clinton Foundation, people familiar with the matter said. Current and former officials said that Huber has largely finished and found nothing worth pursuing — though the assignment has not formally ended and no official notice has been sent to the Justice Department or to lawmakers, these people said.


 
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"Bottom of the Seventh"


The The Washington Post compared apples with oranges to get rinselberg to believe that they are they same thing.
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Because we all understand its in our best interest to allow our adversary to control our resources.....
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Originally posted by olejoedad:

Because we all understand its in our best interest to allow our adversary to control our resources.....


This is really the bottom line. Clinton sold us out. That fact is indisputable, as is the fact that her email server was a severe security risk.

As for now, there has been no comment from the office of Obama appointee John Huber regarding the Washington Post speculative article about his investigation into possible corruption and Russian collusion within the Clinton Foundation. There has been “no tangible results” because the investigation has not yet officially concluded. This is not yet actual news.
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Originally posted by williegoat:

This is not yet actual news.


For all of our antifa members, "not yet actual" means "fake".
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not yet actual fake news?
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not yet actual fake news?

That is a double negative, much like the upcoming Democratic Ticket. (which also has not yet been officially announced)
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not yet actual fake news?


Absolutely ! You reported it (news) and it is not fact.

What gets me rinselberg, is that this national investigation took place in Arkansas, .
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Absolutely ! You reported it (news) and it is not fact.

What gets me rinselberg, is that this national investigation took place in Arkansas, .

That makes sense. Clintons... Arkansas. It says that part of this investigation was in Arkansas.
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Absence of evidence does not equal evidence of absence...
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This kind of propaganda has been common for a while now. One rag will post speculation based on "an unnamed source, close to (the subject)", then a dozen other tabloids will immediately publish stories citing the original drivel as the source.

Suddenly, the headlines are filled with a new imaginary "bombshell".
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Absence of evidence does not equal evidence of absence...


This will be used multiple times today. Thank you.
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Because we all understand its in our best interest to allow our adversary to control our resources.....


Let's set the facts straight:
1.) The plant they sold had the capacity to refine at 20% of nuclear material, but that doesn't mean that's how much they were refining. We have numerous uranium refineries currently idling. This plant was also idling. We would still have ample capacity without this plant.
2.) Clinton was one of many people who signed off on this. She had no reason to object just like the numerous other people didnt.
3.) The plant would have to sell all the material here; it's illegal for them to export nuclear material.

May be part of the reason Clinton skates on her email server issue is that conspiracy theorists keep muddying the waters with insane witch hunts. It's like a bunch of dogs that bark at literally everything; you start to tune them out.
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Let's set the facts straight:
1.) The plant they sold had the capacity to refine at 20% of nuclear material, but that doesn't mean that's how much they were refining. We have numerous uranium refineries currently idling. This plant was also idling. We would still have ample capacity without this plant.
2.) Clinton was one of many people who signed off on this. She had no reason to object just like the numerous other people didnt.
3.) The plant would have to sell all the material here; it's illegal for them to export nuclear material.

May be part of the reason Clinton skates on her email server issue is that conspiracy theorists keep muddying the waters with insane witch hunts. It's like a bunch of dogs that bark at literally everything; you start to tune them out.


None of that changes the fact that Russians connected the Uranium One donated $145,000,000 to the Clinton Foundation around the same time that Obama’s Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton signed off on a deal that gave the Russians control of up to 20% of the U.S. uranium production.

We are all familiar with the phrase “quid pro quo” by now.
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Let's set the facts straight:


3.) The plant would have to sell all the material here; it's illegal for them to export nuclear material.



WRONG

Natural, unrefined, uranium is not on the ITAR / USML.

Additionally, private companies in the United States exported 7.5 % of all the natural uranium sold worldwide in 2018

http://www.worldstopexports...-exports-by-country/

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Just in. Reported by Greg Garret for FOX News..

John Huber, Click to show never interviewed the whistle blower who exposed Shillary's Uranium One shenanigans.

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Let's set the facts straight:
...

May be part of the reason Clinton skates on her email server issue is that conspiracy theorists keep muddying the waters with insane witch hunts. It's like a bunch of dogs that bark at literally everything; you start to tune them out.



I like how liberals side step name calling.

And, your facts are subject to inquiry. Ugh, WE are the dogs?
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WRONG

Natural, unrefined, uranium is not on the ITAR / USML.

Additionally, private companies in the United States exported 7.5 % of all the natural uranium sold worldwide in 2018

http://www.worldstopexports...-exports-by-country/



The NRC controls uranium (ore) export. Uranium one DID NOT HAVE AUTHORITY TO EXPORT.
https://adamswebsearch2.nrc...onNumber=ML103300018
 
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Neither Uranium One nor ARMZ holds an NRC export license, so no uranium produced at either facilitymay be exported.


The NRC controls nuclear source material as well:
https://www.nrc.gov/reading...xt.html#part110-0008

This is why when you go on websites like ebay to buy uranium oxide, the listings (generally) specifically say exporting the ore is prohibited:
https://www.ebay.com/i/1139...get=aud-622524041438 la-5 95076196208&abcId=1140476&merchantid=118826505&gclid=Cj0KCQiAgebwBRDnARIsAE3eZjQ4lT7XzUA5GX0qRUQPauJU2_aZqNJEQ6KXX9zs5i3VJ4Go3_rIbMUaAsqmEALw_wcB

Approval to export Uranium (ore) has to go through numerous hurdles before it even gets to ITAR limitations. Have you ever had to navigate a TTA with the state department? I have. You have to fill out tons of paperwork and get state department approval before even sending a technical drawing that's related to national security to a foreign country, even if that country is part of the "FIVE-I's".

 
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None of that changes the fact that Russians connected the Uranium One donated $145,000,000 to the Clinton Foundation around the same time that Obama’s Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton signed off on a deal that gave the Russians control of up to 20% of the U.S. uranium production.

We are all familiar with the phrase “quid pro quo” by now.


This is flat out false. First, Clinton didn't have the authority to veto this deal! She was one of 9; ONLY the president has the authority to approve/deny it. Second, the big donor ($131MM) divested themselves from Uranium One years before the deal was even proposed.
https://www.cnsnews.com/new...n-clinton-foundation


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And the biggest kicker, Huber , TRUMPS GUY, declined to take this investigation further.

Could it be that once you actually understand what happened, it's a complete nothing burger?

Nope, in the conspiracy theorists mind, it's just more conspiracy!
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This is flat out false. First, Clinton didn't have the authority to veto this deal! She was one of 9; ONLY the president has the authority to approve/deny it. Second, the big donor ($131MM) divested themselves from Uranium One years before the deal was even proposed.
https://www.cnsnews.com/new...n-clinton-foundation


Clinton signed off on the deal. That is true (not false). Giustra was connected to Uranium One as a previous investor. That is true (not false). Just what in my statement is "flat out false"?
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And the biggest kicker, Huber , TRUMPS GUY, declined to take this investigation further.


Huber was nominated by Obama and has not yet made an official statement regarding the conclusion of the investigation.
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First, Clinton didn't have the authority to veto this deal! She was one of 9; ONLY the president has the authority to approve/deny it.


She stated to the President, "I want you do me a favor though ..."

We were not energy independent when the State Dept was under Nobama. # Keystone Pipeline.
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The Half Life of the Uranium One Rabbit Hole describes how long it takes for half of a Uranium One-related news report to decay from a Shiny New(s) Objet into the discredited remains of a politically-motivated Hoax, and it's even longer than the Half Life of 235U. And you can "look it up"--right here.

Click to show

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Fairly simple explanation of the outcome of the investigation, ...John Huber, the U.S. attorney did not want to wake up with a horse head in his bed.
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Or his head in a horse stable.
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The NRC controls uranium (ore) export. Uranium one DID NOT HAVE AUTHORITY TO EXPORT.




Rather than just cut & paste you ought to go actually READ 10 CFR Part 110


By the way, I always find it amazing how dedicated the Cult of Clinton is to defending and excusing both of them.

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Rather than just cut & paste you ought to go actually READ 10 CFR Part 110


By the way, I always find it amazing how dedicated the Cult of Clinton is to defending and excusing both of them.



I did, notably how "Source Material" ie, Uranium Oxide, is controlled by the NRC.

So I'm a cultist, eh? Even though I don't like her at all? I'm listing the facts and apparently that's excusing her.

BTW, speaking of charities, Trump was flat out caught and admitted to using his charity as his own personal piggy bank such that he's banned from ever running a charity again... Did I miss that thread?

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I did,



No you didn't.

If you did you would know about general and specific licenses, who can get them and what they cover.


 
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It's like a bunch of dogs that bark at literally everything; you start to tune them out.



You keep barking, so I'm tuning you out.

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If Iran was even the least bit serious about wanting Uranium for only peaceful electric power generation, they would be building CANDU reactors, using non-enriched uranium and heavy water as a moderator.
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I did, notably how "Source Material" ie, Uranium Oxide, is controlled by the NRC.

So I'm a cultist, eh? Even though I don't like her at all? I'm listing the facts and apparently that's excusing her.

BTW, speaking of charities, Trump was flat out caught and admitted to using his charity as his own personal piggy bank such that he's banned from ever running a charity again... Did I miss that thread?


Hmm
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Hmm


You're gonna bring something up from 15 years ago? Talk about ad hominem.
When you don't want to debate, just attack the other person's character. Weak.
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Again, the NRC said in their approval letter that Uranium one did not posses the ability to export material.

EDIT: and methinks you're moving the goal post. Originally you argued uranium ore was under the purview of ITAR (State Dept). While it is, before it even get's there, it's under the control of the NRC; we know this by your own admission in them listing what they claim control over, one of those being "source material", eg uranium ore. The NRC explicitly stated Uranium One did not posses the license to export.

I will even extend an olive branch, some of their ore DID find it's way out of the US to Canada under the guise that this material must be returned to the US when in fact, some of it found it's way to Europe. This still begs the question: Russia has over three times the amount of reserves of the US. https://en.wikipedia.org/wi..._by_uranium_reserves

Why do they need ours?

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Originally posted by RandomTask:
BTW, speaking of charities, Trump was flat out caught and admitted to using his charity as his own personal piggy bank such that he's banned from ever running a charity again... Did I miss that thread?


Threads, most in T/OT, are generated from news stories. By the way, the Clinton Foundation was not a charity. How did it go broke all of a sudden.
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The Half Life of the Uranium One Rabbit Hole describes how long it takes for half of a Uranium One-related news report to decay from a Shiny New(s) Objet into the discredited remains of a politically-motivated Hoax, ...


Oh, you have proof it is a hoax. Why don't you show it ?

 
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The JCPOA had set strict limitations on how much 235U-enriched uranium Iran would be allowed to stockpile.


Sure it did, as verified by Iran.
The JCPOA, which gave Iran permission to have nuclear weapons in 2025 was the best deal in the history of the world.
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Originally posted by cliffw:


Threads, most in T/OT, are generated from news stories. By the way, the Clinton Foundation was not a charity. How did it go broke all of a sudden.


First, the Clinton Foundation has a 501C. . .it is a charity. They have to file their reports annually to be such which can be found here: https://www.clintonfoundati...al-financial-reports

In those, they also have to list the highest compensated employees. I only checked a couple of years, but neither Hillary nor Bill are listed as compensated employees.

Second, I'm not saying Clinton is some saint. I don't like her from her personality to her being a complete sleazeball. But this whole thing of Uranium One has been debunked numerous times.
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Second,


When was Trump banned from holding a charity, and when, and why ?

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When was Trump banned from holding a charity, and when, and why ?



I apologize; I was wrong. While he had to dissolve his charity and pay $2MM, he was not banned from operating one.
https://www.reuters.com/art...eneral-idUSKBN1OH1TH

Still doesn't change the fact he was caught using the charity as a piggy bank.
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