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CYBERTRUCK by Tesla. You can order it NOW. :) by htexans1
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Originally posted by maryjane:

I don't give a whit about appearances or 'styling' when it comes to pickup trucks but they do have to do the job. Even my 10 yr old generic fleet version 1500 doesn't squat down like that when I drive my little fourtrax up in the bed or even when i load a 1000 lb roll of hay in it.

Taken straight from the video..this won't work in my world, no matter what the technical advances & pleasantries provide..look where the headlight beam is pointed... It's illegal in my state to coon hunt from the highway.





No electric load-leveling?
Now that seems odd.

The more I see, the more this looks like little-more then a gimmick.

Elon Musk says Tesla has already received 146,000 orders for the Cybertruck.
https://www.businessinsider...tm_source=reddit.com

EDIT: Wichita got here first!

 
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Originally posted by Wichita:
It hasn't been a week, and Telsa is saying that there is already has 146,000 orders (deposits) for the Cybertruck already.
Breakdown: 17% for the base single motor, 42% for the dual-motor and 41% for the tri-motor

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yes, you can load level it, but shouldn't have to do it with a little load like that...
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Originally posted by maryjane:

yes, you can load level it, but shouldn't have to do it with a little load like that...


And I shouldn't have to snort Mentos for a fresh perspective but there it is!

I guess I like the futuristic idea of this truck, but the practicality seems pretty low.
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As I understand it, there is a load mode that squats the rear and raises the front....
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Something dawned on me; Do I like this truck because it looks like every vehicle in every 1970's-1980's Science Fiction movie I ever saw?

It seemed to be the standard futuristic shape to be applied to any standard car chassis the studio could get their hands on.

Maybe I subconsciously got nostalgia in my eyes...
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Originally posted by Boondawg:


And I shouldn't have to snort Mentos for a fresh perspective but there it is!

I guess I like the futuristic idea of this truck, but the practicality seems pretty low.

Well, I live in the real and practical world so I need things that actually fit and work in that world.


I saw a news article earlier today of a European/UK 'production farm' tractor (internal combustion engine) that set a new speed record of 150mph. Big deal...not much praticality at that velocity of travel and...it sits pretty low to the ground too.

https://interestingengineer...uinness-world-record


I'd like to see what happens when it hits a fire ant mound at that speed........

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Originally posted by maryjane:

Well, I live in the real and practical world so I need things that actually fit and work in that world.



I'm pretty sure you just described every person on Earth.
But that doesn't discount imagination, either.

Do you put imagination in the same bushel you put play?; "When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things." ~ Corinthians 13:11

While I got you on the line; Have you commented here at Pennocks on your takeaway (if any) from your latest medical issues?
I remember you always worked pretty hard, always stayed active, and ate basically 1 meal a day of pretty much anything you wanted.

Was any of your problem based on that chosen lifestyle, or mostly genetic?
Would you do it all the same knowing what you know now?
Any advice on avoiding going through what you did?

Many of us here respect your opinion and i'm sure a few of us would take our aging health more seriously based on your take of what you went through.
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Originally posted by cliffw:

My 85 Jeep CJ7 has the shape of a bread box. Gas mileage to prove it.


So the (poor?) gas mileage of your 35 year old jeep is due to its aerodynamics (or lack thereof)... and not due to gearing, tire size, rolling resistance, engine condition, vehicle weight, and/or the weight of your right foot?
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Well there are no complex curves so body panels are easy to reproduce.
Everything under the truck would be the same as the car with big tires.

Its ugly as sin and would have to be a great deal before I would get one, its not.

They could have gave it a better body design and still kept the aerodynamics and not had to sacrifice too much more time creating the body panels.
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I was expecting it to look a little more like their big trucks.



Still odd looking, but more aerodynamic. But of course, on a road going truck, that means real money. At highway speeds, over half of the power is used just to overcome wind resistance.

The Tesla tractor has a Cd of .36, which is on par with many sports cars and a big improvement over many class 8 tractors.

Ten years ago, I was doing a lot of reading on big truck aerodynamics for my job.

The second truck in the video above could benefit from wheel covers and a tail cone.

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Originally posted by williegoat:

I was expecting it to look a little more like their big trucks.


Me too.
That's why I figured there must be a pretty-good reason for them choosing that slab-sided design.
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Originally posted by Boondawg:


Me too.
That's why I figured there must be a pretty-good reason for them choosing that slab-sided design.

I'm blaming this guy:



I have no idea who that is, but he looks like he belongs with that pickup.
(or on MTV)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvGc93dWwNg

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Originally posted by williegoat:

I'm blaming this guy:

I have no idea who that is, but he looks like he belongs with that pickup.
(or on MTV)


So... the burly guy wearing the black Tesla Owners t-shirt who just got out of the pickup doesn't look like he belongs? Why is that, Willie?

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So... the burly guy wearing the black Tesla Owners t-shirt who just got out of the pickup doesn't look like he belongs?


No, he looks like he is looking for the other guy, to beat the crap out of him.
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Originally posted by williegoat:

No, he looks like he is looking for the other guy, to beat the crap out of him.


Tsk tsk... such anger issues. But hey, if the little blond-haired guy is a commissioned salesman, I hope he gets what's coming to him!

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Originally posted by Boondawg:

No electric load-leveling?
Now that seems odd.



The electric air compressor kicked in and the air suspension leveled it out fine...
Just not fast like one of those LA hydraulic low riders...

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Originally posted by fierosound:


The electric air compressor kicked in and the air suspension leveled it out fine...
Just not fast like one of those LA hydraulic low riders...



Thanx pal!
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Why, did the compressor have to kick in and level it to begin with?
It's friggin truck that is suposed to compete with current mass produced pickups...mine doesn't have (or need) a compressor or any kind of load leveling, and most pickup trucks don't for a load that light.

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Originally posted by maryjane:

Why, did the compressor have to kick in and level it to begin with?
It's friggin truck that is suposed to compete with current mass produced pickups...mine doesn't have (or need) a compressor or any kind of load leveling, and most pickup trucks don't for a load that light.


I don't know if you guys seen the video. But it wasn't the load that caused the ass-end to go down. It did it on purpose when they open the tailgate and pulled out the ramp for the ATV. The end went down before the ATV was in there.

Elon explained it was doing this to help ease the loading of the ATV and other loads as well. It is a program that senses that you are wheeling up a load (ATV, Motor cycle, etc.).

Hopefully that explains it.
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Looks like a high school prop for a play, and not a good one.
Seriously embarrassing for a legitimate automotive company.
In my opinion, it does not even look edgy or pushing style norms, it is just to ridiculous.
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Originally posted by Boondawg:


I'm pretty sure you just described every person on Earth.
But that doesn't discount imagination, either.

Do you put imagination in the same bushel you put play?; "When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things." ~ Corinthians 13:11

While I got you on the line; Have you commented here at Pennocks on your takeaway (if any) from your latest medical issues?
I remember you always worked pretty hard, always stayed active, and ate basically 1 meal a day of pretty much anything you wanted.

Was any of your problem based on that chosen lifestyle, or mostly genetic?
Would you do it all the same knowing what you know now?
Any advice on avoiding going through what you did?

Many of us here respect your opinion and i'm sure a few of us would take our aging health more seriously based on your take of what you went through.

Well, my 'latest' medical problems stem from a relatively old injury I got in the late 89 or early 90. Disk degeneration followed by fracture at L2 and L3 vertebrae. I've learned to put up with it over the years, and it really flares up very rarely but anything can set it back off. This time, was standing by the workbench in my shop, and twisted just slightly to one side to reach for a different driver bit for my drill and pow! Took me to my knees and had to crawl across the yard, up the back steps and into the house. Better now but at my age, and considering the risk involved, I won't have surgery done.

Th other health issues I have are:
1. Type 2 mellitus..diabetes.
2. Ischemic heart disease.
3. Idiopathic peripheral neuropathy.
4. Congestive heart failure.

Of the 4, the VA says the 1st 3 are accepted to be a result of Agent Orange exposure.

https://www.publichealth.va...ntorange/conditions/

#4, I attribute to a lot of drinking when I was younger and smoking cigs between age 42 and 65.

Would i do things differently?
1. Should never have smoked the 1st cig. Smoking simply makes the risks of everything else higher.
2. Would have given up alcohol a long time ago.

Probably wouldn't have changed my diet much at all tho. I still only eat one meal a day, but I do snack some during the day..usually a pack of cheese crackers or an orange or pear.
If I could go back in time, I would not change my work habits at all.

(Do I truly believe AO is the cause of much of my problems? I don't know..can't say for sure one way or another. Spent lots of time flying thru and landing in areas it had been sprayed but just don't know nor care about it much one way or another)

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Originally posted by maryjane:

Well, my 'latest' medical problems stem from a relatively old injury I got in the late 89 or early 90. Disk degeneration followed by fracture at L2 and L3 vertebrae. I've learned to put up with it over the years, and it really flares up very rarely but anything can set it back off. This time, was standing by the workbench in my shop, and twisted just slightly to one side to reach for a different driver bit for my drill and pow! Took me to my knees and had to crawl across the yard, up the back steps and into the house. Better now but at my age, and considering the risk involved, I won't have surgery done.


Don, I don't know what the limitations might be (if there are any) of this self-treatment, but take a few minutes and listen to This guy. Never know, might help!
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Originally posted by Wichita:

It hasn't been a week, and Telsa is saying that there is already has 146,000 orders (deposits) for the Cybertruck already.


Breakdown: 17% for the base single motor, 42% for the dual-motor and 41% for the tri-motor


Barnum and Bailey sold a bunch of tickets also.

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Originally posted by maryjane:

Why, did the compressor have to kick in and level it to begin with?
It's friggin truck that is suposed to compete with current mass produced pickups...mine doesn't have (or need) a compressor or any kind of load leveling, and most pickup trucks don't for a load that light.


Looks like maryjane and Patrick have cross-posted from a thread on medical issues...


Getting back to topic of the Tesla truck...

I'm pretty sure most pickup trucks are not running full air suspension systems.

Lots of people thought the Hummer looked ugly.
Probably not your "style" either and that's OK.

Lots of people still hate the way the Fiero looks even now...
... and we don't care. We like 'em !

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Lots of people still hate the way the Fiero looks even now...


Damned Communists!
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Originally posted by fierosound:

Looks like maryjane and Patrick have cross-posted from a thread on medical issues...


Maryjane and I were just responding to the discussion that Boonie initiated Here!

 
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While I got you on the line; Have you commented here at Pennocks on your takeaway (if any) from your latest medical issues?

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Tsk tsk... such anger issues. But hey, if the little blond-haired guy is a commissioned salesman, I hope he gets what's coming to him!


Now, now. That's not very Canadian. Remember, we are a polite and considerate society. We take the vermin out behind the barn before beating the pizza out of them so they can bleed and cry in private afterwards.
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Barnum and Bailey sold a bunch of tickets also.

Rams


Tesla isn't the first and won't be the last car company to take orders and deposits based on a semi-functional mock-up. Tucker comes to mind.
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Looks like they threw away the truck and kept the box it came in
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Originally posted by Patrick:

Maryjane and I were just responding to the discussion that Boonie initiated Here!

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Boondawg:

While I got you on the line; Have you commented here at Pennocks on your takeaway (if any) from your latest medical issues?



Yes, it’s my fault.
I asked here because I remembered all at once that I keep forgetting to ask.

Thanx Maryjane!

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Hey, I totally recall that car!
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That looks like it was made from cardboard boxes and Saran wrap on a Volkswagen floor pan.
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Originally posted by williegoat:

That looks like it was made from cardboard boxes and Saran wrap on a Volkswagen floor pan.


Close!

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Close!

CLICK FOR FULL SIZE

Definitely VW torsion bar front end and pedal assembly.

I figured VW because of all the negative camber on the rear wheels. That makes it an earlier (pre-1969) transaxle.

That looks like a very uncomfortable seating position.

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Originally posted by williegoat:

That looks like a very uncomfortable seating position.


I suspect that's not a major consideration for a movie prop.

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I have previously stated that I believe in a decade or two the vast majority of vehicles on the road will be some version of electric vehicles. But, they have some engineering to accomplish before one will ever be in my garage. The Cybertruck will do almost everything my wife’s Honda Ridgeline will do admittedly. Almost. But I have no confidence in it’s reliability. It hasn’t proven itself yet. As several of my friends (who are engineers) have told me, never buy the first year or two of any vehicle. They are all produced with both known, suspected and unknown flaws that will have to be addressed in the next iteration of the vehicle. Which will also have new issues.
Elon Musk is an innovator and a salesman, that much I will give him credit for. What I won’t give him is my money until he has a proven product.

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Let the games begin

https://driving.ca/ford/f-1...truck-tug-of-war/amp


As I said, Musk is selling vehicles. How many used car salesmen do you trust?

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