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You will support what you are told to support by MidEngineManiac
Started on: 11-08-2019 08:06 PM
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Although this took place in Canada, I wouldn't be surprised to see this tactic be applied to students in schools in the US as the culture of agree with me , or you will be punished that is being pushed by the "wackos" in the school systems that accept deviant life styles.
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CityNews Winnipeg went to the school where the incident took place to independently verify what happened, but that’s when the facts of the story started to shift. Students told CityNews no one was forced to wear rainbow poppies, and that students were suspended because of a poster they hung up around the school protesting rainbow poppies, which bordered on hate speech.

Upset about the rainbow poppy? You've been duped by fake news
Mark MacMahon, Mark Neufeld and Espe Currie, for Vancouver "News 1130" (Canada); November 8, 2019.

SELECT ("CLICK") to reveal the complete and unaltered original text of the News 1130 report

Or go directly to the News 1130 report online:
https://www.citynews1130.co...-duped-by-fake-news/


This one ain't over. Or at least, there seem to be at least two emerging narratives with some sharp differences about exactly what went down at Stonewall Collegiate High School in Manitoba.

You have to wonder about Stonewall Collegiate High School. Is there a literal connection with the 1969 Stonewall Riots in New York City that became part of the origin story of the contemporary gay rights movement?

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Good advice in the rebuttal article.
Many journalists should heed that same advice and actually write their stories, rather than just copy and paste others' tweets.

Twits....
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Originally posted by olejoedad:

Good advice in the rebuttal article.
Many journalists should heed that same advice and actually write their stories, rather than just copy and paste others' tweets.

Twits....


There are no real journalists anymore. Just social media regurgitaters. I call them "Urinolists" these days.


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Originally posted by Jonesy:


There are no real journalists anymore...



I disagree.
It’s just that some are willing to take shortcuts in the pursuit of fortune & fame.
The old guys were in it for honor & respect.

The new guys are in it for branding.
Creating a ever-expanding revenue-generating image.
Something they can maybe turn into something else in the future.

The idea of “telling the truth because it’s the right thing to do” don’t seem to be as lucrative as reinforcing already held ideas in different segments of the population by telling them exactly what they want to hear.

They’re only selling what we buy.
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Originally posted by Boondawg:

I disagree.
It’s just that some are willing to take shortcuts in the pursuit of fortune & fame.
The old guys were in it for honor & respect.

The new guys are in it for branding.
Creating a ever-expanding revenue-generating image.
Something they can maybe turn into something else in the future.

The idea of “telling the truth because it’s the right thing to do” don’t seem to be as lucrative as reinforcing already held ideas in different segments of the population by telling them exactly what they want to hear.

They’re only selling what we buy.


You say you disagree but then you give examples of why they are not real journalists
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Originally posted by Boondawg:


I disagree.
It’s just that some are willing to take shortcuts in the pursuit of fortune & fame.
The old guys were in it for honor & respect.

The new guys are in it for branding.
Creating a ever-expanding revenue-generating image.
Something they can maybe turn into something else in the future.

The idea of “telling the truth because it’s the right thing to do” don’t seem to be as lucrative as reinforcing already held ideas in different segments of the population by telling them exactly what they want to hear.

They’re only selling what we buy.


Yeah kinda confusing me here Boonie.. You pretty much made my point for me, so what do you disagree with?

Don't get me wrong, those reporters that travel to war zones, and stuff around the world, those are real journalists..

But the idiots you see on tv (doesn't matter what network it is, Fox, CNN, MSNBC, ect) they are all full of crap. Each one pulls its own narrative, not usually facts and real truth. And all of their "investigative reporting" consists of reading facebook and twitter posts.. Its been this way for years and years. Its especially bad now, gets worse as time goes on. But once the news became corporate controlled, ratings became top priority. Or these days "clicks" are the top priority. Traditional news media is slowly dying. They will do whatever they can to attempt to survive, and keep that money train moving.

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The media used to tell us that something happened and we had to decide for ourselves what it meant, now they tell people what to think about something and we have to decide if it actually happened.
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Originally posted by Jonesy:

Yeah kinda confusing me here Boonie.. You pretty much made my point for me, so what do you disagree with?



I disagree with the statement "There are no real journalists anymore".

 
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Originally posted by Jonesy:

Don't get me wrong, those reporters that travel to war zones, and stuff around the world, those are real journalists..



The above is almost word-for-word the sentence I failed to provide in wrapping-up my opinion.
I got sidetracked when I saw my sweet lil' puppy girl dragging blood across the couch cover.
It seems my lil' girl is a woman now...her first heat!
She goes in for "fixing" later next week.

But Jonesy's quote was exactly where I was headed.
Real journalists still exist.
I just didn't get there!

Sorry pal!
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What the Plastic Media will not show you ... https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=sGwhs_1573339574
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Originally posted by rinselberg:
This one ain't over. Or at least, there seem to be at least two emerging narratives with some sharp differences about exactly what went down at Stonewall Collegiate High School in Manitoba.

You've been duped by fake news.


It is so easy to say we have been duped by one who was duped.
From your link :

 
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CityNews Winnipeg went to the school where the incident took place to independently verify what happened, but that’s when the facts of the story started to shift. Students told CityNews no one was forced to wear rainbow poppies, and that students were suspended because of a poster they hung up around the school protesting rainbow poppies, which bordered on hate speech.


Let me guess, ... your day job is not as a detective, which all should be when evaluating news. CityNews talked to students, and also observed no rainbow poppies at the school. Did they talk to (from your link) ...
 
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The tweet alleges her 17-year-old cousin was suspended from a Manitoba high school by her choral teacher after refusing to wear a rainbow poppy instead of a red one during a ceremony.


...the choral teacher ?

Did CityNews talk to the suspended students, or any other students in the choral class ? Did CityNews find out what was on the, to some, offensive poster which got them suspended ? No, they just bought what the school administration spouted it seems.

When is it ok to get suspended for ?hate speech? ? Who determines what hare speech is ? "Hate speech" is the very reason for our First Amendment ! Yet, ... these students got suspended for for a poster that ... (again, your link)

 
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were suspended because of a poster they hung up around the school protesting rainbow poppies, which bordered on hate speech.

Again, another fail by CityNews for not investigating the poster. Is the choral teacher a faggot ?
Was my question hate speech ? Would queer be better ? I really don't care if they are queer but they sure ain't normal. It is they that seem to be, pun intended, butt hurt.

Your link did have something you need to take to heart.
[quote]
... it’s so important that people think critically.


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Originally posted by cliffw:
[all that...]

I said (in so many words) that I wasn't ready to come to any firm conclusions about it.

I am not likely to drive any kind of investigation of this all the way to any kind of completion.

It's too far outside of my current "remit."
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Originally posted by rinselberg:
I said (in so many words) that ...


Uhh, ok, you say so, .

 
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Originally posted by rinselberg:
I said (in so many words) that I wasn't ready to come to any firm conclusions about it.


You said this ... :

 
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Originally posted by rinselberg:
You've been duped by fake news.


 
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Originally posted by rinselberg:
I am not likely to drive any kind of investigation of this all the way to any kind of completion.


Neither am I but I do find it curious. If we were to believe CityNews, who seems to believe the school administration, the suspended students dreamed that it happenend. Not likely. I more believe that there is some kind of gay acceptance agenda going on. Also, I don't remember any kind of lone wolf poster hanging happening in my High School.

I forgot to add that burning the American flag borders on hate speech. It is an accepted First Amendment right and protected.
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It's true, I did say
 
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You've been duped by fake news.


I wonder if the reaction would have been any different--maybe a little different--if I had been more careful and used quotation marks, to signify that I was replicating the banner or headline at the top of that news report. Like this:
 
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"You've been duped by fake news."


I have become kind of lax about using quotation marks, assuming that it would be obvious that I was in "replicate" or "copy and paste" mode at that part of my message.

It's the thing that I have done here, message after message. It's like my "signature" move. It always goes like this:
  1. Banner or Headline at the top of the media article
  2. Name of the author(s) or reporter(s) who are credited with the article
  3. Name of the media venue where the article appears
  4. Date for the article
  5. Internet page link that retrieves the article


Forum member "jmbishop" called me out a few times for being lax or being non-compliant in the way that I was presenting words (and images) that I had replicated.
 
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Where's the quotation marks?


I was just saying, in so many words, what "jmbishop" said. If I had meant it to be his exact words, then it would (or should) be:
 
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"Where's the quotation marks?"

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