Although this took place in Canada, I wouldn't be surprised to see this tactic be applied to students in schools in the US as the culture of agree with me , or you will be punished that is being pushed by the "wackos" in the school systems that accept deviant life styles.
CityNews Winnipeg went to the school where the incident took place to independently verify what happened, but that’s when the facts of the story started to shift. Students told CityNews no one was forced to wear rainbow poppies, and that students were suspended because of a poster they hung up around the school protesting rainbow poppies, which bordered on hate speech.
Upset about the rainbow poppy? You've been duped by fake news Mark MacMahon, Mark Neufeld and Espe Currie, for Vancouver "News 1130" (Canada); November 8, 2019.
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VANCOUVER (NEWS 1130) – Growing furor online over rainbow poppies appears to be a case of fake news.
Posts online are stirring up outrage, suggesting the LGBTQ+ community is pushing an alternative to the traditional poppy. The original, red poppy, worn to commemorate veterans in the lead-up to Remembrance Day, appears to be redone, with each petal a different colour.
But claims the new poppy is widespread are false.
There are posts indicating an artist once sold them online, and the photo of that poppy, an enamel rainbow pin that has since been taken down, appears to have been used in every post decrying the LGBTQ+ community co-opting Remembrance Day.
But there is no mainstream movement among the LGBTQ+ community to use them, the poppies are not mass produced and are not even available to buy in Canada.
Social media expert Susie Parker says people need to be more critical about what they read and share online.
“If I couldn’t explain to somebody else in plain, clear language what happened, maybe I shouldn’t be sharing that content, or even consuming it myself,” she says.
And Ryerson journalism professor Marsha Barber says people are too trusting of what they see on Facebook and Twitter.
“You see that your friends are concerned in sharing these posts, so unfortunately, it gives these posts a kind of heightened credibility, but it’s so important that people think critically,” she says.
“People tend to trust online media posts, wrongly and unfortunately, because their friends share them. You see these posts on Facebook, you see them in intimate settings.”
So how did this misinformation spread so fast? It all centres around a high school in Manitoba.
A post from Cyara Bird, a Conservative candidate in last month’s election, went viral on Wednesday with almost 5,000 retweets and nearly 75,000 likes.
The tweet alleges her 17-year-old cousin was suspended from a Manitoba high school by her choral teacher after refusing to wear a rainbow poppy instead of a red one during a ceremony.
“My 17 year old cousin was suspended today… want to know why?” the tweet said. “Her choir teacher was demanding that the choir wear rainbow poppies during their performance in the Remembrance Day ceremony. She and another student rejected that idea, and both were suspended for ‘hate speech.'”
Bird’s Twitter account has since been made private.
“The message that I think was sent by this teacher and by this school was inappropriate, that’s not a message that you should be sending to a young woman,” she said.
CityNews Winnipeg went to the school where the incident took place to independently verify what happened, but that’s when the facts of the story started to shift. Students told CityNews no one was forced to wear rainbow poppies, and that students were suspended because of a poster they hung up around the school protesting rainbow poppies, which bordered on hate speech.
While the CityNews reporter saw hundreds of students wearing red poppies at the school, there was no evidence rainbow poppies were present.
In response, the Board of Trustees of the Interlake School Division, where the incident happened, posted on Twitter:
“In light of misinformation which has been widely spread on social media, we will share that at no point did any staff member of Stonewall Collegiate or Interlake School Division direct, nor mandate, any student to wear a ‘rainbow poppy.'”
The school and school division would not comment further on any matters regarding specific students, citing privacy matters.
This is an example of why social media users shouldn’t jump to conclusions and pass judgement when they become emotional about something posted online, Parker says.
“I think that’s a very human emotion, to feel like ‘Oh, I can’t believe that happened to somebody.’ The second part of that is when you then share the story or that questionable link and go on your own kind of spinning of events.”
Parker says when she first heard about the incident at the Manitoba school, she went online to do her own research, found it was missing information, and that gave her pause. She found Bird’s original tweet and thought what was included was one-sided, and so were the comments attached.
She says social media consumers need to ask who the person behind the information is, and why they’re putting it out.
“What are the actual facts, what can we glean from what actually happened? Versus the opinions that are spinning around it. What that means is we should stop, take a step back and say ‘Ok, what really happened here?'”
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This one ain't over. Or at least, there seem to be at least two emerging narratives with some sharp differences about exactly what went down at Stonewall Collegiate High School in Manitoba.
You have to wonder about Stonewall Collegiate High School. Is there a literal connection with the 1969 Stonewall Riots in New York City that became part of the origin story of the contemporary gay rights movement?
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Good advice in the rebuttal article. Many journalists should heed that same advice and actually write their stories, rather than just copy and paste others' tweets.
Good advice in the rebuttal article. Many journalists should heed that same advice and actually write their stories, rather than just copy and paste others' tweets.
Twits....
There are no real journalists anymore. Just social media regurgitaters. I call them "Urinolists" these days.
I disagree. It’s just that some are willing to take shortcuts in the pursuit of fortune & fame. The old guys were in it for honor & respect.
The new guys are in it for branding. Creating a ever-expanding revenue-generating image. Something they can maybe turn into something else in the future.
The idea of “telling the truth because it’s the right thing to do” don’t seem to be as lucrative as reinforcing already held ideas in different segments of the population by telling them exactly what they want to hear.
I disagree. It’s just that some are willing to take shortcuts in the pursuit of fortune & fame. The old guys were in it for honor & respect.
The new guys are in it for branding. Creating a ever-expanding revenue-generating image. Something they can maybe turn into something else in the future.
The idea of “telling the truth because it’s the right thing to do” don’t seem to be as lucrative as reinforcing already held ideas in different segments of the population by telling them exactly what they want to hear.
They’re only selling what we buy.
You say you disagree but then you give examples of why they are not real journalists
I disagree. It’s just that some are willing to take shortcuts in the pursuit of fortune & fame. The old guys were in it for honor & respect.
The new guys are in it for branding. Creating a ever-expanding revenue-generating image. Something they can maybe turn into something else in the future.
The idea of “telling the truth because it’s the right thing to do” don’t seem to be as lucrative as reinforcing already held ideas in different segments of the population by telling them exactly what they want to hear.
They’re only selling what we buy.
Yeah kinda confusing me here Boonie.. You pretty much made my point for me, so what do you disagree with?
Don't get me wrong, those reporters that travel to war zones, and stuff around the world, those are real journalists..
But the idiots you see on tv (doesn't matter what network it is, Fox, CNN, MSNBC, ect) they are all full of crap. Each one pulls its own narrative, not usually facts and real truth. And all of their "investigative reporting" consists of reading facebook and twitter posts.. Its been this way for years and years. Its especially bad now, gets worse as time goes on. But once the news became corporate controlled, ratings became top priority. Or these days "clicks" are the top priority. Traditional news media is slowly dying. They will do whatever they can to attempt to survive, and keep that money train moving.
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The media used to tell us that something happened and we had to decide for ourselves what it meant, now they tell people what to think about something and we have to decide if it actually happened.
Yeah kinda confusing me here Boonie.. You pretty much made my point for me, so what do you disagree with?
I disagree with the statement "There are no real journalists anymore".
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Originally posted by Jonesy:
Don't get me wrong, those reporters that travel to war zones, and stuff around the world, those are real journalists..
The above is almost word-for-word the sentence I failed to provide in wrapping-up my opinion. I got sidetracked when I saw my sweet lil' puppy girl dragging blood across the couch cover. It seems my lil' girl is a woman now...her first heat! She goes in for "fixing" later next week.
But Jonesy's quote was exactly where I was headed. Real journalists still exist. I just didn't get there!
Originally posted by rinselberg: This one ain't over. Or at least, there seem to be at least two emerging narratives with some sharp differences about exactly what went down at Stonewall Collegiate High School in Manitoba.
You've been duped by fake news.
It is so easy to say we have been duped by one who was duped. From your link :
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CityNews Winnipeg went to the school where the incident took place to independently verify what happened, but that’s when the facts of the story started to shift. Students told CityNews no one was forced to wear rainbow poppies, and that students were suspended because of a poster they hung up around the school protesting rainbow poppies, which bordered on hate speech.
Let me guess, ... your day job is not as a detective, which all should be when evaluating news. CityNews talked to students, and also observed no rainbow poppies at the school. Did they talk to (from your link) ...
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The tweet alleges her 17-year-old cousin was suspended from a Manitoba high school by her choral teacher after refusing to wear a rainbow poppy instead of a red one during a ceremony.
...the choral teacher ?
Did CityNews talk to the suspended students, or any other students in the choral class ? Did CityNews find out what was on the, to some, offensive poster which got them suspended ? No, they just bought what the school administration spouted it seems.
When is it ok to get suspended for ?hate speech? ? Who determines what hare speech is ? "Hate speech" is the very reason for our First Amendment ! Yet, ... these students got suspended for for a poster that ... (again, your link)
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were suspended because of a poster they hung up around the school protesting rainbow poppies, which bordered on hate speech.
Again, another fail by CityNews for not investigating the poster. Is the choral teacher a homosexual ? Was my question hate speech ? Would queer be better ? I really don't care if they are queer but they sure ain't normal. It is they that seem to be, pun intended, butt hurt.
Your link did have something you need to take to heart. [quote] ... it’s so important that people think critically.
Originally posted by rinselberg: I said (in so many words) that ...
Uhh, ok, you say so, .
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Originally posted by rinselberg: I said (in so many words) that I wasn't ready to come to any firm conclusions about it.
You said this ... :
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Originally posted by rinselberg: You've been duped by fake news.
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Originally posted by rinselberg: I am not likely to drive any kind of investigation of this all the way to any kind of completion.
Neither am I but I do find it curious. If we were to believe CityNews, who seems to believe the school administration, the suspended students dreamed that it happenend. Not likely. I more believe that there is some kind of gay acceptance agenda going on. Also, I don't remember any kind of lone wolf poster hanging happening in my High School.
I forgot to add that burning the American flag borders on hate speech. It is an accepted First Amendment right and protected.
I wonder if the reaction would have been any different--maybe a little different--if I had been more careful and used quotation marks, to signify that I was replicating the banner or headline at the top of that news report. Like this:
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"You've been duped by fake news."
I have become kind of lax about using quotation marks, assuming that it would be obvious that I was in "replicate" or "copy and paste" mode at that part of my message.
It's the thing that I have done here, message after message. It's like my "signature" move. It always goes like this:
Banner or Headline at the top of the media article
Name of the author(s) or reporter(s) who are credited with the article
Name of the media venue where the article appears
Date for the article
Internet page link that retrieves the article
Forum member "jmbishop" called me out a few times for being lax or being non-compliant in the way that I was presenting words (and images) that I had replicated.
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Where's the quotation marks?
I was just saying, in so many words, what "jmbishop" said. If I had meant it to be his exact words, then it would (or should) be:
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"Where's the quotation marks?"
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