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Starbucks can go to hell by williegoat
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https://www.breitbart.com/p...mer-didnt-feel-safe/
 
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A Tempe, Arizona, Starbucks ejected a group of six uniformed police officers who were enjoying their morning coffee because one customer complained to the management that they “didn’t feel safe” with the police officers present.


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Drag Queen Story Hour. Nothing else stuns me anymore.

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Have never been a fan of high priced coffee shops but, I may have to visit a Starbucks just so I can say I was in one before they go under from all their stupid “Left leaning” crap.

Oh hell, what am I thinking, I hope they go under before I even see one.

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If you do visit a Starbucks, be sure to drive your Bradley. Maybe a drive-through cup of coffee.
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And you know what? When somebody comes in and robs the place, the cops are still going to show up and do their job just the same as if it were Duncan Donuts, which I have heard has MUCH better coffee.
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Originally posted by blackrams:

Have never been a fan of high priced coffee shops but, I may have to visit a Starbucks just so I can say I was in one before they go under from all their stupid “Left leaning” crap.

Oh hell, what am I thinking, I hope they go under before I even see one.

Rams

I have never been in a Starbucks, but there is one inside the Safeway around the corner. Every time I go to Safeway, my phone asks me, "How did you like Starbucks?". I have always ignored it in the past, I think I am going to start answering them.
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What they NEED to do is ask the employee if she came from California. If so, that explains the ignorance.
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**** Starbucks I will make my own from now on.
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Hey Snowflake.....

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Originally posted by williegoat:

I have never been in a Starbucks, but there is one inside the Safeway around the corner. Every time I go to Safeway, my phone asks me, "How did you like Starbucks?".


I've stopped in a two or three Starbucks, but just to pee. If my phone asked me afterwards how I liked it, I'd have to tell it its asking for too much information!

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Im not a big fan of cops, BUT as I see it someone needs to sue the crap out of Starbucks for discrimination. Ive never drank coffee myself, it even looks nasty like poop water. But if thats what millennials and other upity groups want to waste their money on, I fully support their right to do so. I once pointed out to someone complaining about the cost of gas...who was buying a case of bottled water...that he was paying over $5 a gallon for FREE water, almost double the cost of his gas.
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Don't feel safe around cops...
Guilty much?
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People like that are why I never pursued a career in law enforcement. They treat police officers like persona non grata... until they need help. Screw that! (and screw them)
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I second the idea of cops either responding to Starbucks calls slowly, if at all. Let them hire security guards.
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I'll be honest, up until recently I still went to Starbucks. But after this latest crap, I'm done with em for good. Their coffee has sucked for a while anyway. I just went because they had heavy cream.
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Originally posted by rogergarrison:

I second the idea of cops either responding to Starbucks calls slowly, if at all. Let them hire security guards.


Well, if a person ever--just once--doesn't give their absolute best, they cannot truthfully state that they always did the best they could, and that they fulfilled their oath. It could be important, later on. This would go against my values, and would seem to be poor ethics. After a while, such a person would let some other things slip. Eventually, why bother, at all?

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"Members of Starbucks’ leadership team met Monday with six police officers who were asked to leave the coffee giant’s Tempe, Arizona, store last week, which prompted the company to apologize to the officers involved."

More online:
Melissa Quinn for the Washington Examiner; July 9, 2019.
https://www.washingtonexami...to-leave-tempe-store


"An Apology to the Tempe Police Department"
A brief and public communication, signed by Rossann Williams, executive vice president for Starbucks.
https://stories.starbucks.c...e-police-department/
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Originally posted by rinselberg:

"Members of Starbucks’ leadership team met Monday with six police officers who were asked to leave the coffee giant’s Tempe, Arizona, store last week, which prompted the company to apologize to the officers involved."

More online:
Melissa Quinn for the Washington Examiner; July 9, 2019.
https://www.washingtonexami...to-leave-tempe-store


"An Apology to the Tempe Police Department"
A brief and public communication, signed by Rossann Williams, executive vice president for Starbucks.
https://stories.starbucks.c...e-police-department/


This = Hey we are sorry that this caused us so much back lash, lets say we are sorry and hope its enough.
What would they do if the complaint was hey can you remove those black guys they make me afraid for my safety or hey those white people make me uncomfortable.
What next hey that group of vets makes me uncomfortable make them leave.

Here's the only response that is necessary.
If a group is not breaking the law or the house rules then they should not be asked to leave.
If someone is making you uncomfortable you are free to leave.
You are free to not drink here if you don't feel safe from your imagined threat.
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Oh, the COMPANY apologized. That is all cleared up now, isn't it?

"We the People..."
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Originally posted by Jake_Dragon:

If a group is not breaking the law or the house rules then they should not be asked to leave.
If someone is making you uncomfortable you are free to leave.
You are free to not drink here if you don't feel safe from your imagined threat.


These three lines should be posted at the entrance of every public building in the US with the third line adjusted for that buildings purpose, eat, shop, etc. to remind the idiots of the world that it does not revolve around them.
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Originally posted by Jake_Dragon:


This = Hey we are sorry that this caused us so much back lash, lets say we are sorry and hope its enough.
What would they do if the complaint was hey can you remove those black guys they make me afraid for my safety or hey those white people make me uncomfortable.
What next hey that group of vets makes me uncomfortable make them leave.

Here's the only response that is necessary.
If a group is not breaking the law or the house rules then they should not be asked to leave.
If someone is making you uncomfortable you are free to leave.
You are free to not drink here if you don't feel safe from your imagined threat.


Exactly, it's more of the "Sorry we got caught", not "sorry we did _______"

The crap that keeps happening at these places is because of leadership. It's like that in every company.

(Because it's what I'm most familiar with.)
You want to know how a trucking company is to work for? Just look at their drivers. They mirror their leadership (This is as a rule, there are exceptions.)
If most of the drivers are knuckle draggers that don't seem to care if they even quarter ass their jobs as long as they keep getting paid.... Pretty good chance the management is pretty craptastic as well.
On the flip side, drivers that are generally decent, polite, and at least pretend to care about what they are doing are that way because their managers are at least pretending to care.

Starbucks employees are all just following management. Each store is a mirror of the next.

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Our strong relationship with the Tempe Police Department has provided us the opportunity to host several “Coffee with a Cop” events in area stores, which bring residents and police together to discuss relevant issues and find common ground. We look forward to continuing to strengthen our relationship with you, and we agree that the experience of your officers requires an important dialogue – one that we are committed to being part of.

What occurred in our store on July 4 is never the experience your officers or any customer should have, and at Starbucks, we are already taking the necessary steps to ensure this doesn’t happen again in the future.
Rossann Williams, executive vice president at Starbucks.

 
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Starbucks faced an onslaught of criticism last year after two black men waiting for a friend were arrested at a store in Philadelphia after they were asked by an employee to leave. The company apologized and closed more than 8,000 stores in the United States for a day to conduct racial bias training for its employees.
From the Washington Examiner.


If it happens again, with uniformed police officers being "dissed" by Starbucks employees, I would think that a nationwide Time Out to conduct Anti-police Bias Training would be called for. Based on the precedent set by Starbucks in 2018, in the wake of that episode in Philadelphia.

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Report this Post07-12-2019 11:46 AM Click Here to See the Profile for williegoatClick Here to visit williegoat's HomePageSend a Private Message to williegoatEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Hey dude, sorry about that slavery thing.
We good now?

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Hey dude, sorry about that slavery thing.
We good now?



More coffee out the nose...

frack, Willie--you gotta stop ding that sheet. 20 bucks a pound plus for coffee and you get me spitting it on a keyboard.

Just think what your mom would say.....just think what the boys at Black Rifle and Kicking Horse would say if they knew what was happening to thier coffee beans....

Think of the children who dont have coffee....

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Well, if a person ever--just once--doesn't give their absolute best, they cannot truthfully state that they always did the best they could, and that they fulfilled their oath. It could be important, later on. This would go against my values, and would seem to be poor ethics. After a while, such a person would let some other things slip. Eventually, why bother, at all?


It dont violate anything to me. Starbucks stated they didnt want them there, so honor their request and stay away. Their prices are so high, im sure they can afford security guards at each store.

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