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Anybody else getting sick of this You-Tube and Instructables craze ? by MidEngineManiac
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It seems just about EVERYTHING these days has been video-ized.

When I want information, I am NOT interested in sitting thru a 10-minute how-to video, or clicking thru 20-pages of step-by-set instructions on how not to shove my fingers thru the jointer (did that when I was 16 and learned no-be-do-dat then)... I want a few pictures and some text I can scan thru in under 2 minutes and have what I want !!

Scored myself a nice router table (brand-new, in-the box ) for 35 bucks yesterday, and am searching for idea on a jig that I can use with it to cut both circles and ovals (in the same jig, yeh, I know, THATS a tall order).

Its taking longer to weed out the videos and instructibles than it will take me to build the damn jig !!!

(YES, I AM turning into a grumpy old man. Damn millennials are ruining everything with their love of tech stuff !!)

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Report this Post05-05-2019 04:10 PM Click Here to See the Profile for rinselbergClick Here to visit rinselberg's HomePageSend a Private Message to rinselbergEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I think it is a good option for many other people.

The tools should still be packaged for the customer with printed instruction manuals.

My two cents worth.
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Report this Post05-05-2019 04:26 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Jake_DragonSend a Private Message to Jake_DragonEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Come on a circle is easy, center peg and a string to the router.
Ovals are not as easy as you need two center pegs and a loop of string that the round base of the router uses as a guide.
You will have to play with the size loop and how far apart the pegs are but that's the fun.

If you are lost just google it, I am sure someone has put together a video.
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I know how to make the jigs for free-handing them with a router...BUT the lumber I get is small off-cuts from a high-end stair company. Beautiful wood, but small pieces (9-18" long, 1x4-1x12 and mostly 5/4) For 40 bucks a truckload I can afford to burn a lot of it eventually. Once I FINALLY get out of here the shop will be an external wood stove for heat.

Those pieces arent big enough to be free-handing anything. I need to design a jig I can clamp to the table and rotate the wood around the bit, not the router around the wood. Circles is easy, its tossing the oval function in there that has me beddy-beddy-compused

I MAY just end up making 2 jigs for the 2 functions, THATS pretty easy to do.

I'm getting a little impatient to get going on the woodshop (and get AWAY from dealing with people-kind) so am thinking set up the router table (I can mount the scroll saw in it for rough cutting) on the balcony and knock out clocks while I find a place where the owner DOESNT try last-second changes to the deal....<sigh>. Its been 4 times since November.

I can make something like these for 12 bucks my cost and do 10 a day. https://www.etsy.com/listin...-shotgun-shell-clock AND, I know a girl with a cricut machine who can make me stencils so I can add a flag or browning or whatever logo stenciled on.

LOL, at least until the neighbors complain about the noise and dust and the management company shuts me down. Meh, its easier to ask forgiveness than permission.

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I see, if you get a router guide bushing you can install it in the table.
Then just find the size template you want to cut and use double sided tape to attach it to the wood.
The template rides along the bushing as the bit cuts the wood

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I get annoyed at all of the news and opinion videos. Most videos waste way too much time without getting to the point. Many times, half of the video is someone trying to prove how clever or talented he is.
Like MEM said, I want info and I want it now.
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My "Get off my lawn" statement is these danged videos to "help" you learn something. Say you are looking for help on a game.

You search and find a video.

30 seconds of irritating intro music at full volume.
30 seconds of "Hello everybody, welcome to the channel you just watched an intro on. I'm Brandon the wang jangler."
30 seconds of him begging you to send him money on Patreon
Video starts. "Today we're going to be doing that thing you want to know about." (He's nowhere near where he should be.)
1 minute later, he's still working on getting to the thing you want to learn about, and getting sidetracked like a squirrel crossing a highway.
2 minutes later, gets to the thing. Doesn't have the things he needs, goes back to grind for them.
5 minutes later, he's working back to the thing.
Gets to the thing, moves so fast you can't see what he's doing.

DONT FORGET TO SMASH THAT LIKE BUTTON LIKE I DO YOUR MOM!
SUBSCRIBE AND SEND ME MONEY ON PATREON SO I DONT HAVE TO GO TO A REAL JOB AND SUCK AT THAT TOO!!

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Originally posted by Jake_Dragon:

I see, if you get a router guide bushing you can install it in the table.
Then just find the size template you want to cut and use double sided tape to attach it to the wood.
The template rides along the bushing as the bit cuts the wood



NEVER thought of it, and I have a set in the storage locker somewhere DOH !
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Originally posted by Fats:

My "Get off my lawn" statement is these danged videos to "help" you learn something. Say you are looking for help on a game.

You search and find a video.

30 seconds of irritating intro music at full volume.
30 seconds of "Hello everybody, welcome to the channel you just watched an intro on. I'm Brandon the wang jangler."
30 seconds of him begging you to send him money on Patreon
Video starts. "Today we're going to be doing that thing you want to know about." (He's nowhere near where he should be.)
1 minute later, he's still working on getting to the thing you want to learn about, and getting sidetracked like a squirrel crossing a highway.
2 minutes later, gets to the thing. Doesn't have the things he needs, goes back to grind for them.
5 minutes later, he's working back to the thing.
Gets to the thing, moves so fast you can't see what he's doing.

DONT FORGET TO SMASH THAT LIKE BUTTON LIKE I DO YOUR MOM!
SUBSCRIBE AND SEND ME MONEY ON PATREON SO I DONT HAVE TO GO TO A REAL JOB AND SUCK AT THAT TOO!!

That describes every guitar/mandolin/harpsichord repair video I have ever watched. Today I watched an eight minute "how to upgrade a jack plate" video. The damned thing has two lousy screws, that's it. Thirty seconds of work, and his hat was in the way for about half of that.
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Originally posted by MidEngineManiac:


NEVER thought of it, and I have a set in the storage locker somewhere DOH !


Just watch the end grain and hold on to your work!!
Watched a guy router his little finger off because he caught the end grain and kicked the part out of his hand.
I hated using the table after that.
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Circles and curves it don't matter, but there is a trick to straight end-grain to prevent catching and tear-out...

Clamp another piece on as an extension and cut right past the "joint" line. The bit will "see" it as one continuous piece, and you can stop cutting before you reach the end of the sacrificial piece.
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Originally posted by Fats:

My "Get off my lawn" statement is these danged videos to "help" you learn something. Say you are looking for help on a game.

You search and find a video.

30 seconds of irritating intro music at full volume.
30 seconds of "Hello everybody, welcome to the channel you just watched an intro on. I'm Brandon the wang jangler."
30 seconds of him begging you to send him money on Patreon
Video starts. "Today we're going to be doing that thing you want to know about." (He's nowhere near where he should be.)
1 minute later, he's still working on getting to the thing you want to learn about, and getting sidetracked like a squirrel crossing a highway.
2 minutes later, gets to the thing. Doesn't have the things he needs, goes back to grind for them.
5 minutes later, he's working back to the thing.
Gets to the thing, moves so fast you can't see what he's doing.

DONT FORGET TO SMASH THAT LIKE BUTTON LIKE I DO YOUR MOM!
SUBSCRIBE AND SEND ME MONEY ON PATREON SO I DONT HAVE TO GO TO A REAL JOB AND SUCK AT THAT TOO!!



Hahahahaha you nailed it.
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I forgot to add in my origianal post....UNLESS its Demolition Ranch !!

Then yeh, I can probably sit thru 10 minutes of how-to...or 20...or 30...or a week-long marathon



Ya know....just in case...you ever need to cut up a car....with a 120-pound sword....

Or...for that REALLY bad day....

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Originally posted by Jake_Dragon:

I see, if you get a router guide bushing you can install it in the table.
Then just find the size template you want to cut and use double sided tape to attach it to the wood.
The template rides along the bushing as the bit cuts the wood


I've cut lots and lots of things (large and small) just like that, both on my home router table and in a professional setting.
I've also done it with vacuum instead of double sided tape---if the edges are sealed, you can pull vacuum thru an mdf template.
Saves having to deal with taping each piece to the template.

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I like and have used many "how-to" videos on YouTube.
Some new stuff, some just to refresh my memory.
The "How Stuff Works" videos can be very informative, too.

I'm not fortunate enough to know everything just yet.

In my opinion, the mass of information at my fingertips far outweighs the hassles of filtering for applicable results.
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Originally posted by maryjane:

I've cut lots and lots of things (large and small) just like that, both on my home router table and in a professional setting.
I've also done it with vacuum instead of double sided tape---if the edges are sealed, you can pull vacuum thru an mdf template.
Saves having to deal with taping each piece to the template.


I thought about adding the vacuum option, we didn't have that setup but I have seen Videos
3 1/2 years in the Navy working in the carpenters shop. I will let you guess how many plaque backs I have cut and then routed on that stupid table.
But we had a nice band saw to cut them to shape and only had to use the router to put a nice 1/4 round on them.
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Originally posted by MidEngineManiac:

I forgot to add in my origianal post....UNLESS its Demolition Ranch !!



Demolition ranch is quite entertaining.

Even the slower vids (off the ranch). It begins to get goin better around 4 mins.




I find vids can be helpful for car repairs.
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I also hate those videos where they beak off for 10 minutes before they actually get to the topic...

As for the "ant" problem - there is this way, plus I am sure you can sell it afterwards.

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Originally posted by Mickey_Moose:

As for the "ant" problem - there is this way, plus I am sure you can sell it afterwards.





I've seen that its pretty cool
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