Well, someone is being charged as a result of the Mueller investigation. But, it has nothing to do with candidate Trump, or President Trump. It is a former White House Counsel for the Obama Administration. Who would have thought that it would come back to bite the Obama Administration? And will the press even acknowledge that this is happening?
At this point--and I have not been focusing on this particular story or actively trying to read or see more coverage of it--what I am aware of is that he was (a) White House or official government lawyer for the Obama administration--not a personal lawyer that was responsible to President Obama himself in a directly personal way--and that after his departure from the Obama administration, he got involved in some "stuff" involving himself with Ukraine, and with Paul Manafort, and now he's indicted for it. Acting as an agent or representative of a foreign government (Ukraine) without submitting the required paperwork to make himself known to the U.S. government as someone working on behalf of certain foreign political entities that are of the Ukraine.
As someone who resides in an extraterrestrial abode, I try to use this forum as a social media link to the people of the planet Fox, or "Earth", as it was once known.
At this point--and I have not been focusing on this particular story or actively trying to read or see more coverage of it--what I am aware of is that he was (a) White House or official government lawyer for the Obama administration--not a personal lawyer that was responsible to President Obama himself in a directly personal way--and that after his departure from the Obama administration, he got involved in some "stuff" involving himself with Ukraine, and with Paul Manafort, and now he's indicted for it. Acting as an agent or representative of a foreign government (Ukraine) without submitting the required paperwork to make himself known to the U.S. government as someone working on behalf of certain foreign political entities that are of the Ukraine.
As someone who resides in an extraterrestrial abode, I try to use this forum as a social media link to the people of the planet Fox, or "Earth", as it was once known.
So what you are saying is that the only person caught in this investigation that had anything to do with actual Russian Collusion was working for President Obama?
Hey, I'm not here to argue about any of this. Not right now.
I await further developments from either (or any) of the factions that are involved in this Free For All.
I can't because we have a system of laws that protects the innocent. Did you catch that last part? INNOCENT. Had he been found guilty of a crime the outcome would be different.
The Democrats demanded the probe. The Democrats proclaimed again and again that Mueller was the perfect person for the probe. The Democrats worked on the probe. Every lawyer working there was a Democrat. The Democrats created the "evidence" that the probe used. And now, The Democrats are claiming that it's the Republicans messing with the report.
Hey, I'm not here to argue about any of this. Not right now.
I await further developments from either (or any) of the factions that are involved in this Free For All.
Your actual obsession for the past two years, and this is your new line of thinking? Yeaaaaaaah riiiiiiight?!
Even a rude awaking is not enough?
I predict some more MAGA attacks this summer. Not saying that Ronald will go all postal, but we are going to see a pretty fair break down from the left that will surely be popcorn worthy.
Originally posted by MadMark: Well, someone is being charged as a result of the Mueller investigation. But, it has nothing to do with candidate Trump, or President Trump. It is a former White House Counsel for the Obama Administration. Who would have thought that it would come back to bite the Obama Administration? And will the press even acknowledge that this is happening?
Greg (Gregory) Craig was the first of the White House counsels during Obama's eight years as President. Greg Craig was in that position for less than a full year, from January 2009 to December 2009.
About a week ago the news broke that Mr Craig has been indicted by a federal grand jury in connection with his role at the law firm of Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom, and starting in 2012, at least two years after his last day as Obama's White House counsel. He's been charged with providing false or seriously misleading statements when interviewed during the Special Counsel's investigation, described as "concealing material information about his work in private practice lobbying on behalf of the Ukrainian government."
So, if "you" can barrel this up and drive it into the gap in Left, or over an outfield wall for a "round tripper"... more power to ya'. Knock yourself out. I'm looking for bigger fish to fry. I can't wait for Thursday. If "Mueller Report Thursday" were 10 days away and not just two, I would ask a doctor to put me into a medical coma and not bring me back to consciousness until the report is out.The Mueller report is like Arby's. "When you're thinking 'Mueller', you can't think of anything else."
Those were good TV spots (for Arby's.) But that was a few years ago. Their "promo's" are different now.
How do I know that Greg Craig was the Obama administration's White House counsel from January 2009 to December 2009? So says (or said) the WaPo. The Washington Post. https://www.washingtonpost....IQAfBUR9O_print.html
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"When you're thinking 'Mueller', you can't think of anything else."
We know Ronald.
You have shown this forum over and over again the sad extent of your mental illness, accompanying obsessions and your detachment from reality.
You refuse to get the psychiatric help that I, and several others, have begged you to get because it is so obvious that you have a profound and worsening problem.
PLEASE seek professional help Ronald.
You're a sad tragedy just waiting to happen and it can be prevented.
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They are already preparing us for their number one spin. "Oh, the evil AG blacked out the part that said Trump was guilty of X".
We all know that's their gameplan. Frankly, it's getting tedious.
As you can see from Ronald (above), the leftard crazies aren't willing to let go of their Mueller fantasy yet.
They will be forced to eventually, just like they have had to grudgingly give up on every other impeachment fantasy they have had since 2016.
That will come only after they spend weeks sifting through every innuendo, suggestion and parsed words and even words or phrases that they imagine from the released report and come up empty again.
Then the refrain will be "Well, of course Mueller is a REPUBLICAN. We should have known what he would do. He and the AG are all in on this cover up!"
Wait for it.
NEVER expect rational behavior from leftists.
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Not to worry, there is still hope. Progressive liberals (yes, over redundant redundancy) still can be treated. Science opens new pages towards a cure...
One more day! I am looking forward to this with the kind of enthusiasm some reserve for the superbowl. I think I'll make some nachos.
Meanwhile, leftists will be choking down another nothing burger with a side order of crushed fantasies and a tall glass of bitter tears of disappointment.
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The only thing the Dem leadership is interested in is, getting Trump one way or another. Collusion, obstruction, taxes, illegal alien/future dem voters. It's not even good drama.
I've been either at my part time job working or on the road transporting a lot lately, have not heard anything new about the topic. Are the Dems doing as expected and still trying to get something on President Trump?
Are the Dems doing as expected and still trying to get something on President Trump?
Rams
Oh no, not at all.
They all unanimously agreed that the whole Russia collusion thing was indeed a hoax and never happened and that the AG was obviously correct in his "no obstruction" determination and decision not to indict the President and all the lefties have calmly and peacefully packed up and moved on now.
You do believe that, right?
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There are sources on the web where you know full well what to expect, including rough language.
I'm personally not so concerned about his choice of language because I realize that "old codgers" like me probably aren't his target audience.
His intended, more youthful, audience does use profanity much more freely than our generation did, or does.
That said, I find that I do enjoy his videos a lot and I find myself laughing loudly at the analogies he makes.
The one about "Bubba Clinton playing "hide the Havana" with a fat chick" was priceless.
His ideological, political and social analysis is mostly SPOT ON in my personal (conservative) opinion and I'm very happy to have him speaking to a younger generation and offering them the conservative viewpoint in a manner that might get through to them. He's sort of a "Neo Dennis Miller" with a more "crusty" vocabulary the way I see it.
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Democrats seem to be really fired up about this Mueller report.
Trump is completely cleared of any "Russia Collusion;" however, this seems to be completely missed. The Democrats have taken a concerted effort into really pushing the idea that Donald Trump has committed impeachable offenses with regard to obstruction of justice.
Focusing on the blatantly obvious though... you can't really have obstruction of justice on a crime that never actually happened. Democrats seem to be missing this. They can push for obstruction of justice... but the simple fact remains that no crime had actually been committed... so the mere foundation of the claim would be completely suspect in public opinion.
Assuming the Democrats want to try to push for this... it would require a pretty strong vote in the House... which I don't think they have. Pelosi may be encouraged to do so... but this really feels like an attempt at getting back because of Clinton. Right now in impeachment score, you have two Democrats, and no Republicans. So... they want to try to even the score.
Following down this path though, would certainly lead to a Republican victory in 2020. So I'm torn on the issue. While I think it's an abortion of justice, I also welcome the opportunity for the Democrats to make a fool of themselves.
The last thing they truly want is to actually get President Trump on the witness stand because he will ABSOLUTELY destroy them.
For the sake of obviousness... Rinselburg... there's no way the Senate would ever vote to remove Trump from office. I know this probably gets talked about a lot... but the vast majority of Democrats probably don't know what impeachment means. Should it actually happen, and should it actually make it to the Senate, he'll get acquitted... just as both former Democrats had. If the moon was made of cheese and hell froze over and the Senate did vote to remove him, it would go to the Supreme Court and would get thrown out anyway. So... we really have to see just how stupid the Democrats are here.
It's been an almost 3 YEAR stint of complete uninterrupted buffoonery.
I often try to convince myself that we all really want the same thing, but that we have a different idea of how to get there.
With many of the Democrats, I'm just not sure that's the case. They seem to be driven by something else. It would be cliche' for me to say that they're driven by emotions... I think they are, but "what" emotions? I realize that Donald Trump is abrasive, arrogant, and condescending to people who don't appreciate him. But there are a lot of people who we run into in our lives that are like this... but as long as they are "making good," it's easy to let it all slide. Why is it that Democrats have such a difficult time letting things be?
They exploit every possible group they can... looking to foster hate between them. We're actually solving problems right now, and this only infuriates Democrats more... ?
Do they just not see it, or are they so incensed with anger that they're blind to it?
Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]: I often try to convince myself that we all really want the same thing, but that we have a different idea of how to get there.
With many of the Democrats, I'm just not sure that's the case. They seem to be driven by something else. It would be cliche' for me to say that they're driven by emotions... I think they are, but "what" emotions? I realize that Donald Trump is abrasive, arrogant, and condescending to people who don't appreciate him. But there are a lot of people who we run into in our lives that are like this... but as long as they are "making good," it's easy to let it all slide. Why is it that Democrats have such a difficult time letting things be?
They exploit every possible group they can... looking to foster hate between them. We're actually solving problems right now, and this only infuriates Democrats more... ?
Do they just not see it, or are they so incensed with anger that they're blind to it?Click to show
You are not being told anything new by me.
Believed knowledge. That is my hypothesis. The belief that they understand that in which they have no fracking clue. Access to supposed knowledge and learned ability is basically a click or two away. Separation from reality is/has killed the fulfillment of being.
Over two years now, CONSTANTLY being told that our President is guilty, found not true, and STILL with the mental disorder of a tape deck playing the same rant over and over. (Look up the definition of insanity.)
67 and sunny. Map the St. Joe's River in Northern Idaho from St. Maries to St. Regis. I will be in Avery in a few hours. Taking the modified GT. Just look at the road that we are taking...
The conclusion was that the left tried to create confusion by the inclusion of the illusion of collusion. The solution would be a cranial contusion sufficient to cause a noticeable protrusion.
The conclusion was that the left tried to create confusion by the inclusion of the illusion of collusion. The solution would be a cranial contusion sufficient to cause a noticeable protrusion.
Thank You for clarifying that.
Edited: what I got from that is, the Dems will do what ever it takes to get rid of President Trump. Don't get me wrong, he is not my favorite person but, I had to put up with his predessor for eight years, they can put up with President Trump until Pence takes over.
Rams.
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Just keeping it musical. A little of Detroit Rock City with some Red Wings chasers. I grew up with this and even had Bob Probert sitting at mom's table eating home made spaghetti.