I got a news flash on my phone that basically said the results of the investigation are being turned over to the AG. And that that signaled the end of it.
I just read the WSJ article and spent some time browsing the comments section.
For many, it will not be accepted or believed. Comments are already flying about how Trump put conditions on Barr's appointment to AG, how this will be another Benghazi, how the Steele dossier is a fake, comparisons to the WJClinton impeachment.....some Clinton followers are certainly loyal.
Nothing is over, except the Mueller investigation segment of this drama. I'm sure that each party's firebrands will cherry pick items for quite some time.
The fat lady hasn't even warmed up her voice. (Not a reference to any failed presidential candidate)
Since the Mueller report is done and no one is going to be charged with collusion with Russia. We now need to have the DOJ go back and prosecute the people that are/were in government who stepped all over the constitutional rights of many US citizens. Along with that the DOJ needs to prosecute those who brought this to us. Those who lied. Those who colluded with Russia (yes, actually there was collusion with Russia, but it was not President Trump or his people. It was Hillary, the Democratic Party and many in the Deep State who lied and abused their power). This even strongly points to the weaponizing of many departments of government. All done during the Obama administration. First we found out about the IRS. Now we know about Obama's DOJ, the FBI, the CIA and others being weaponized against an opposition party. If we do not pursue this criminality then we no longer have a government that is impartial and constitutional.
Since the Mueller report is done and no one is going to be charged with collusion with Russia. We now need to have the DOJ go back and prosecute the people that are/were in government who stepped all over the constitutional rights of many US citizens. Along with that the DOJ needs to prosecute those who brought this to us. Those who lied. Those who colluded with Russia (yes, actually there was collusion with Russia, but it was not President Trump or his people. It was Hillary, the Democratic Party and many in the Deep State who lied and abused their power). This even strongly points to the weaponizing of many departments of government. All done during the Obama administration. First we found out about the IRS. Now we know about Obama's DOJ, the FBI, the CIA and others being weaponized against an opposition party. If we do not pursue this criminality then we no longer have a government that is impartial and constitutional.
Do you think it is possible that Trump just sat back and waited for these people to tip their hand so that he now has the evidence he needs to drain the swamp?
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Do you think it is possible that Trump just sat back and waited for these people to tip their hand so that he now has the evidence he needs to drain the swamp?
It very well could be. He is one smart individuals, and has unbelievable political sense. Just think of how he has been able to show up the Main Stream Media for over 3 years now. Every time they think they have him, it works out in his favor. There is certainly enough evidence now from the Mueller investigation, both the House and the Senate investigations and other reports that have been done by Horowitz. And still idiot Democrats still are trying to tie him to something. Anything. The Democrats have so overplayed their hand on this that they will not recover. If you remember Dukakis and how badly he lost, that will seem like a minor thing in 2020 and beyond. You have avowed Socialists running to be the Democratic Presidential candidate and then you have this failed coup attempt by the Deep State, who were in partnership with both the Deep State and the Main Stream News Media. It ought to be a fun election.
I can't friggin' hear you over the deafening silence from the left! The silence, it is deafening. Can you hear it?
Don't be surprised if a new "big story" breaks over the weekend; another mass killing, a riot or some big shot gets caught with his hand where it doesn't belong.
Don't be surprised if a new "big story" breaks over the weekend; another mass killing, a riot or some big shot gets caught with his hand where it doesn't belong.
How about that college admissions "scandal"?
Edit: Please do not stop posting those cool musical threads that you do.
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So, the report has been forwarded from the (newly retired) Special Counsel, to the AG. And the AG has publicly released a brief, one-page letter about the report.
I have not read or viewed any more about it, yet. It's only just coming up to 7:00am in Washington, DC.
My first reaction is Literary, not Political. A replay of something that emanated from my own keyboard, on August 31, 2018.
The only thing more WTF would be if a docudrama suddenly broke out here. Like this:
"A Jumo Remembers"
Jumo: Junior Moscow operative. Urban slang, linked to Michael Wolff's "Fire and Fury", where Steve Bannon is (putatively) quoted about the June 2016 meeting at Trump Tower. “The chance that Don Jr. did not walk these 'Jumos' up to his father’s office on the 26th floor is ZERO.”
It may be that "Jumo" is Bannon or Wolff's corruption of "Jamoke", which if rendered in Spanish, would be closely approximated by "El Stupido."
Thursday, August 3, 2017; Washington, DC.
It had been hot in the District all day long. When they met in the President's Dining Room, the gathering dusk outside the West Wing had just become slightly more comfortable. It was almost 8:30 pm, uncommonly late indeed for President Trump to have his New York City-nurtured nose to the grindstone.
It was a very uncommon meeting. An informal strategy meeting. A “brain storming” session. The focus was on the Special Counsel’s investigation. The Mueller probe. It was just three men huddled at a dining room table that was moonlighting as the centerpiece of a conference room. The President spoke first. “No reason to wait for Hope or Kellyanne. I don’t think either of them actually wanted to be here.”
So it began. The President. The President’s legal consigliere--officially, White House Counsel—Don McGahn. The newly minted White House Chief of Staff, retired Marine Corps general John Kelly, cobbled together just a week before from the remains of the Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security.
The President, famously a teetotaler, was fingering a very ordinary pint of spring water, still in its original, clear plastic and screw-cap container. As if it had just been purchased at any of the convenience stores or supermarkets in the District.
The lawyer, Don McGahn, ran a hand through his customarily disheveled-looking bounty of reddish-brown hair. He had just poured himself a glass of wine, emptying a bottle that he had literally brown-bagged. Earlier, it had been an accessory to his dinner.
If someone were looking in on this meeting from outside--had there been a means for that—their eyes might have settled for an extra moment on the empty wine bottle and its odd-looking label. 19 Crimes. Red Blend. Australia. McGahn was particular about his creature comforts.
General Kelly contemplated a crystal tumbler, which he had freshly filled with a single ice cube and a generous pour of some harder spirits. Not to be outdone in the rakishly branded libations category--almost as if it were some esoterically themed Bring Your Own Booze party, instead of a White House strategy meeting—Kelly had smuggled in a fifth of Breaking And Entering Bourbon.
It was an uncommon bourbon, for an uncommon man, and on a night which called for some very uncommon inspiration. The native Bostonian was already feeling perceptibly inspired, as the translucent golden elixir had been drawn down visibly below its original level. That was not his first pour of the evening.
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Ahem. "Click on the thumbnail to reveal the full-sized image." Kind of a large thumbnail. It dwarfs the CLICK FOR FULL SIZE admonition. So I rate the implementation of the [img thumb] BBcode format as a B+. It doesn't merit an A.
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So, how many threads did you start Ronald with this very same subject in mind? I began a search for your OG thread, and damn if there are not a dozen threads or so with the very same TDS.
I didn't say anything about an "enemy." Did I read something into your remarks about AOC and her PAC and her campaign that you did not have in mind for that message?
I did not review anything in this thread before the one message that I quoted from you. So that was all that I had in front of me when I said what I said a couple of hours ago. Actually, I am now talking about two threads at the same time. This one, and the "Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez" topic or thread.
When the Special Counsel investigation was created in 2017--the first or second week of May of 2017, if memory serves me--I was an Early Adopter or Lighthouse Customer, as the marketing terminology goes. I used the New Topic function rather "promiscuously" about it. I had already been doing that even before it became the Special Counsel investigation. When the first news reports emerged in early 2017 about Michael Flynn and his purportedly iconoclastic behavior as Trump's first National Security Advisor.
From about the end of 2018 to DATE, I have been mostly quiet about it. I "downsized." That's what I think about my Trump and other politically accented recreational activities on this forum. Although not so long ago I did make something about one of the ongoing cases in federal court about a Russia-based entity known as Concord Management. Something about Animal House and Nude Selfies. Ah yes. That one just came back to me.
I haven't checked the news since a couple of hours ago. Does anyone know whether the Mueller report was a long report, or a short report. I have heard commentators speculate that it could have been as brief as just 10 pages, or as voluminous as several hundred pages, or anywhere in between. Should there be a Guessing Game topic set up on the forum? "How many pages do you think are bound together in the Mueller report?" There might be arguments about the Annex(es) and whether that should count.
That "Jumo" thing that I just duplicated here. Republishing my own "work." That was from another forum topic, but not one that I started myself.
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Speaking to the title, Is the Trump Russian investigation scam over? I just saw an interview with a Democratic Senator and he said that regardless the content of the report that Trump is still going to have a lot of questions to answer. With that statement, it looks like they're going to keep on keeping on.
Speaking to the title, Is the Trump Russian investigation scam over? I just saw an interview with a Democratic Senator and he said that regardless the content of the report that Trump is still going to have a lot of questions to answer. With that statement, it looks like they're going to keep on keeping on.
Yeah, I guess it's the old addage that if you keep repeating something often enough, people will eventually believe it. I don't know how many times I watched Dumbo on the Walt Disney show, when I was a kid. But now, with the movie, I am kinda beginning to believe. Can you say "I done seen 'bout everything when I see an Elephant fly."
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I cant wait for the release, even if its redacted. The libs have been harping for years now about how they have to have this investigation and it will reveal everything Trump and his buds did that was illegal. If as reported, they found nothing...zero...zilch, I guarantee the libs will turn and declare how Mueller conducted a fake investigation, and his final report is all a lie. Ive got one die hard Trump hater friend who believes Trump lies and does everything illegal and hes going to jail after the report. I cant wait to go over to his house and rub it in that the report found absolutely nothing. I already told him Trump will win a 2nd term if he chooses to run. He laughed and called me an idiot. I got the last laugh in 2016. Ill probably get it again.
"I will tell you what Chris is referring to is that a couple of hours ago — maybe even less than that — I was standing knee-deep in a trout stream in Tennessee," Maddow said. "But now it's Mueller time, and so I’m in a studio in the great state of Tennessee."
"The trout are basically just as safe as they were when I was flailing away at them ineffectually this afternoon," she said. "But now it is — listen — this is history. This is a reason to stop fishing and go to work.”
"Tonight is a landmark moment," she said. "I would still be fishing, otherwise. But we still have no idea as to what Robert Mueller has found."
Originally posted by rogergarrison: I got the last laugh in 2016. Ill probably get it again.
I hope you're right. But, I think Trump would have a hard time beating Biden if Biden is the Democrat nominee and he chooses Sanders or Abrams as his running mate. If Trump does win a second term, I can see another Russian Collusion investigation, since the report has already come out that Russia is gearing up to interfere in 2020.
It is amazing, that, after almost 2 years of searching, coercing, and otherwise manipulating, they found nothing. Personally, I think Trump is guilty of many things...pron stars, questionable ethics, financial manipulations, lying, dodging the draft, hiring illegal immigrants, and probably cheating people. Probably, all of what he did fit into some legal loophole.
The most criminal things he's done were blatant, though. He'll boldly admit to them, too. Off the top of my head, he won the 2016 election, and he WON'T STOP TWEETING!
Let's face it, though. Clinton dodged the draft, had affairs IN THE OVAL OFFICE, lied under oath, had no ethics, was involved in illegal trade deals, hired killings, and no one had a problem with that. Obama walked around like a mutt that knows it's been bad, and just sortof gave the store away.
During the obama years, the leaders of other countries went in with a dream list, and got everything on it. Now, Trump holds his head up, and refuses to give the store away.
People knew about Trump before he was elected. We do know who was colluding with Russia, too. The Russia investigation was tainted from the start. It was not ethical or legal. How would you like to be placed under federal investigation for false accusations? Everyone involved in that should be tried for treason. Clinton, Steele, Obama, Comey, Strzok, Page, Schiff, Rosenstein, Lynch, Pelosi, Schumer, and a few others.
While I'm thinking of it, I have the perfect nickname for Trump. Tweety Bird.
Biden is as big a numbskull as Hillary. Hes probably just as criminal too. I doubt he could get voted in as a city dogcatcher. BUT, ill give you hes probably the best the libs have to offer...which is not saying very much. Trump can probably win even if he does no campaigning.
Biden is as big a numbskull as Hillary. Hes probably just as criminal too. I doubt he could get voted in as a city dogcatcher. BUT, ill give you hes probably the best the libs have to offer...which is not saying very much. Trump can probably win even if he does no campaigning.
I think that Kamala Harris might turn out to be their strongest candidate. I know she has some baggage, but that doesn't seem to mean a lot to the Dems.
Here is the Matt Taibbi 20 page article analyzing all of the press coverage of this hoax from the beginning. It is a very good read. This is coming from a man who writes for Rolling Stone and hates Trump. It exposes how low the media has fallen and how the Democrats manipulated both the press and the justice system.
For example, a politician would leak a story one reporter, then when the story breaks, they will call up other news outlets to confirm the story that they leaked. Comey was top of the list of scumbags that was manipulating both the press and the justice system.
On another note, the report states that there is no evidence of collusion. If the investigation ended with no evidence that means it also started with no evidence. Let that sink in.
On another note, the report states that there is no evidence of collusion. If the investigation ended with no evidence that means it also started with no evidence. Let that sink in.
Terribly, it began with false "evidence". Let that sink in.
On a better note Doug85GT, it has been a rather tiresome week carrying around all of this feeling of vindication. It wears on a guy.
Biden is a known pedophile...he loves touching and kissing young girls. There were many reports with pics a few years ago. Girls reported he creeped them out. Listening to the latest news, hes still up to the same tricks since other women have come forward saying he touched and kissed them inappropriately.
The Dems just don't want an old white guy to run. They will probably have a write-in for Jussy.......he has all of the qualifications. Young, minority, urban, gay, famous, liar, criminal, Obama connections.
"If I had a son....."
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The House Democrats are about to fire their "subpoena cannon" and the first targets are Steve Bannon, Reince Priebus, Hope Hicks, Don McGahn and Ann Donaldson.
From the Washington Examiner.
Here's something mentionable from the New York Times.
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WASHINGTON — Tricia Newbold, the Trump administration’s latest whistle-blower, did something unexpected only hours after a House committee released her deposition that the White House had overruled career staff members who denied officials their security clearances: She went back to work.
“As you can imagine,” Ms. Newbold, a 39-year-old employee of the White House Personnel Security Office, wrote in an email during her commute on Monday, “I am extremely nervous for how people at work will treat me.”
But according to people close to her, she was not afraid to tell them about the things she had seen. Ms. Newbold’s decision to accuse her own office of rampant mismanagement of the security clearances of at least 25 employees came after months of what she characterized as personal discrimination and professional retaliation from Carl Kline, the office’s former director, after she spent roughly a year trying to raise issues internally.
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Ms. Newbold, who has a rare form of dwarfism, also accused Mr. Kline, the former director of personnel security, of retaliating against her when she repeatedly pointed out to him that actions he was taking, including overriding recommendations to issue clearances to two senior officials, were violating protocol. Ms. Newbold said that Mr. Kline oversaw a workplace where files — including extensive and sensitive background check documents — were not secured properly, and stopped the performing of credit checks for potential employees. She told the House committee that she had “never seen our office so ill-staffed and with such lack of experience.”
Last fall, Ms. Newbold filed a complaint with the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, accusing Mr. Kline of moving office files to a shelf several feet above her, deliberately out of her reach, beginning in December 2017. That month, she hired Mr. Passman, her lawyer.
That's coming close to "Don't Crush That Dwarf, Hand Me The Pliers" territory.
The House Democrats are about to fire their "subpoena cannon" and the first targets are Steve Bannon, Reince Priebus, Hope Hicks, Don McGahn and Ann Donaldson.
From the Washington Examiner.
Here's something mentionable from the New York Times.
That's coming close to "Don't Crush That Dwarf, Hand Me The Pliers" territory.
So it was April 1 but they weren't just fooling about what Tricia Newbold reportedly said about her dwarfism and her interactions with Carl Kline.
There is a lot that can be said about "be careful what you wish for". The Republicans WILL get control of the House again. There is A LOT of "questions" about Hillary that will no doubt be asked the same ways that are currently being used by the dems. If people think the Republicans are done with Hillary and the Obama questions, they are VERY mistaken. Investigations will be in order for at least the next 4 years. Statute of limitations will have not expired and people will be put on the hot seat. If the dems can do it , the Republicans will do it as well.
