Russia's propaganda machine discovers 2020 Democratic candidate Tulsi Gabbard Experts who track websites and social media linked to Russia have seen stirrings of a possible campaign of support for Hawaii Democrat Tulsi Gabbard. Robert Windrem and Ben Popken for NBC News; February 2, 2019. https://www.nbcnews.com/pol...ulsi-gabbard-n964261
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An NBC News analysis of the main English-language news sites employed by Russia in its 2016 election meddling shows Rep. Tulsi Gabbard of Hawaii, who is set to make her formal announcement Saturday, has become a favorite of the sites Moscow used when it interfered in 2016.
Several experts who track websites and social media linked to the Kremlin have also seen what they believe may be the first stirrings of an upcoming Russian campaign of support for Gabbard.
Russia's propaganda machine discovers 2020 Democratic candidate Tulsi Gabbard Experts who track websites and social media linked to Russia have seen stirrings of a possible campaign of support for Hawaii Democrat Tulsi Gabbard. Robert Windrem and Ben Popken for NBC News; February 2, 2019. https://www.nbcnews.com/pol...ulsi-gabbard-n964261
"The fix is in."
It is comical (in a morbid way) that people think that Russia can select our President. The people of America are the ones that cast the votes, not Russia. In fact the ONLY influence Russia had was to release emails for the American public to see, witch the Democrats would have kept hidden from America. Those emails were not forgeries, they were raw unaltered writings. Comical that people are so hateful AND gullible as to try to turn this into Russian rigged.....pathetic in fact. The truth is that the Democrats have done MUCH worse "crimes" and outright lies about Republicans. But if CNN or MSMBC had dug up this same exact email dump on Republicans, everything would be A OK. Hypocrites
Edited to mention that as far as voting tampering goes, those accusations were aimed at Democrats,..humm
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Several experts who track websites and social media linked to the Kremlin have also seen what they believe may be the first stirrings of an upcoming Russian campaign of support for Gabbard.
"The fix is in."
Puleeese. Not another Special Council investigation into collusion, .
What is the worst that the Ruskies can do ? Sway you by reporting to NBC news, one of your trusted sources ?
For myself, I have never said that President Trump was elected by, or elected because of the Russians. I have never said that it was ever that simple or direct.
It's already been widely reported that there was more to the Russian "project" or "enterprise" than the leaking of emails from the DNC and the Clinton campaign or John Podesta. Not just reported by the media, but committed to public record by the Special Counsel's Office.
This is what I believe is "on the table", over and above the DNC and Podesta emails. Some of these "bullets" have been described and detailed in indictments and court filings that have emerged from the Special Counsel's Office. The other bullets here, far more speculative and conditional; i.e., unless or until the DOJ releases more investigative products.
Fabricated or intentionally misleading news reports from RT and Sputnik, the two best known Russian state-controlled media operations.
People that were part of, or allied with the Russian project, using social media platforms (Facebook, Twitter; etc.) to promote false or misleading news reports.
That same wide-ranging group of people, hiring actors to stage public campaign-related events and create Internet websites to influence voter perceptions and opinions.
Forging links with the NRA and coopting the NRA in terms of pushing to enlarge the NRA's support for, and cash donations to the Trump campaign.
Exploiting detailed or sophisticated polling data provided by Trump's campaign manager, Paul Manafort. To fine-tune the targeting of voters on social media platforms.
Hacking into voter databases in various states, looking for information to exploit. Circulating public disinformation about when or how to vote.
Other governments or foreign entities, not just Russia, involved with, or acting in parallel with the Russian project. UAE. Israel. Saudi Arabia. Qatar.
The disinformation and influence efforts were not 100 percent pro-Trump. They mixed it up a little, to "keep it real." But overall, there was a purpose, to push against HRC and push in the direction of Trump.
I am working from memory and not taking the time to review "stuff". That would require some "bigly" amount of time on my part, to review. So it could be that there is some disinformation about the disinformation, right here, in this message; but I think I am mostly in line with what has been widely reported.
Why don't I stop here, for the moment? (Rhetorical question.)
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Originally posted by rinselberg: n964261]https://www.nbcnews.com/pol...ulsi-gabbard-n964261[/URL]
"The fix is in."
This is totally fake (made up, created, unfounded) news. Tabloid stuff. FIRST: there has never been ANY evidence of Russian meddling. The the premise or core of this statement is a lie that leads to a rabbit hole of (anti-Trump) hate fantasy. Before any credible conversation can happen on the subject, there must first be actual meddling, by the Russians. Hacking computers and releasing data from those computers is not meddling in an election. It is hacking.
I may have more to say about Russia as the day wears on. First, some housekeeping.
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Originally posted by randye:
Because the owner and moderator of OptiBoard had to shut down the "off topic" / "general discussion" section because of YOUR constant disruptive behavior.
Your "Radio Free Rinsel" and other un-ending spamming and nonsense angered the other members of the forum who ARE eye care professionals, whereas YOU ARE NOT.
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You are so psychotic that you believe that the OptiBoard members needed a "compendium" of all your mentally ill posts!
Nope...That's not crazy at all...
You have a "history" Ronald, and it isn't a good one.
The biggest irony is YOU posting in this thread and complaining that "certain people" are the cause of decreased participation on a forum.
I am currently a member in good standing of that other online discussion forum--OptiBoard--and always have been, after registering as "rinselberg" in 2004. I posted as recently as January 28, 2019, and before that, on January 22. As confirmed by this screen capture: Click to show
The owner and moderator did not eliminate the "Just Conversation" section. He decided to put an end to political conversations. He was already leaning that way, towards the end of 2013. "Political Posts and Civility - Can they co-exist?" I was part of that conversation, as confirmed by this screen capture: Click to show
Gratuitous thrill seekers could follow that conversation from the beginning, and they would find not even a scintilla of hostility or blame directed at "rinselberg". To wit: https://www.optiboard.com/f...ty-Can-they-co-exist
Does anyone need more than this, to realize that what Pennock's member “Lyin’ randye” said--what I quoted from him, here--is 100 percent full of sh*t..?
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Russia is going to walk in and force-feed you vodka, and us Canadians will be right behind them with maple syrup bacon.
Once thats done, we are going to steal all of your Marlborro reds, moonshine, and those '67 Mustangs you are hiding out in the Arizona desert. Oh, and I'll personally take a Lockheed Electra.
We wont bother with your weak-ass beer, you can keep that. Ours is better anyway !!
Originally posted by MidEngineManiac: Once thats done, we are going to steal all of your Marlborro reds, moonshine, and those '67 Mustangs you are hiding out in the Arizona desert. Oh, and I'll personally take a Lockheed Electra ...
If you get one can I please have a ride? My all-time favorite plane (well, right after the SR-71 and the PBY Catalina) ...
If you get one can I please have a ride? My all-time favorite plane (well, right after the SR-71 and the PBY Catalina) ...
Canso/PBY is great fun to take a girl into the back of one...and it lands just like a cub, same wing (clark Y)...that was the 90's...OOPPPSSSSSS . So damn slow it cant get out of its own way, let alone anything elses. I went faster in an Appache, and thats a mean trick to pull. Straight down, everything to the front and you might break a couple hundred knotts...with a tailwind, if gravity is kind to you.
Back-course into CYXU in one of them...you can hold the localizer, hold the rudder, or hold it all together--you aint doing all 3...
I might have *just* a little knowledge (I deny all knowledge) about stuff that went on in an ag field in the 90's..Oh, an M-18 ? Big fracking airplane, dont try to use one for taking pictures. Between the 70GPH fuel burn at climb, and the vibratons, you are about to loose your shirt at 10 bucks a picture...100 would be closer to actual costs.
The 2 missing from those picture..Well, 3. Fairley Swordfish that was based in Chatham. Fleet Fawn that I managed to wrangle my way into, and a 1946 Fleet Cannuck that will have you wearing knees for earnings.
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Ok, I have to know the punishment he got for an attempt to steal those documents. I would have lost my job for anything close to that type of move.
I was in error.
Blumenthal wasn't the thief in this case.
It was another Clinton Crime Syndicate lieutenant, Samuel Richard "Sandy" Berger , that stole Classified US National Archives documents related to the Clintons.
The Deputy Attorney General of the United States who handled the case recommended just a $10k fine and a 3 year suspension of Berger's security clearance, saying that "Mr. Berger handled classified materials in a sloppy manner"
Do you recall hearing someone make that same kind of statement about Hillary Clinton and her handling of classified materials?
WHO was this Deputy US Attorney General that handled this case? Click to show
WHO was the Director of the FBI that supposedly investigated Berger and his theft of Classified documents related to the Clintons? Click to show
Are the puzzle pieces starting to fall into place for you yet?
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It was another Clinton Crime Syndicate lieutenant, Samuel Richard "Sandy" Berger , that stole Classified US National Archives documents related to the Clintons.
The Deputy Attorney General of the United States who handled the case recommended just a $10k fine and a 3 year suspension of Berger's security clearance, saying that "Mr. Berger handled classified materials in a sloppy manner"
Do you recall hearing someone make that same kind of statement about Hillary Clinton and her handling of classified materials?
WHO was this Deputy US Attorney General that handled this case? Click to show
WHO was the Director of the FBI that supposedly investigated Berger and his theft of Classified documents related to the Clintons? Click to show
Are the puzzle pieces starting to fall into place for you yet?
I love the game show style questions and click for answers. All I can say is WOW.
Online access to the DOJ directive that defines the mission and scope of the Special Counsel's investigation, Statements of Expenditures (through September 30, 2018) and all of the Indictments, Plea Agreements and other court filings that are the visible product of the Mueller investigation.
A federal grand jury in the District of Columbia returned an indictment on July 13, 2018, against 12 Russian nationals for their alleged roles in computer hacking conspiracies aimed at interfering in the 2016 U.S. elections. The indictment charges 11 of the defendants with conspiracy to commit computer crimes, eight counts of aggravated identity theft, and conspiracy to launder money. Two defendants are charged with a separate conspiracy to commit computer crimes.
Get a head start on your 2019 summer vacation or leisure time reading.
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When a member of the Bern police force is shot dead on a Swiss country road, the enigmatic Inspector Barlach and his colleague Tschanz are intent on tracking down the killer. But the ailing Inspector doesn't have time to lose. Soon the pair discover that the victim was murdered on his way to a clandestine party at the home of a wealthy power broker - so why was a local policeman socialising with some of Switzerland's most influential men? Who was his shadowy host? And why has Barlach's past returned to haunt him in his final hours?
The Judge and His Hangman is a thrilling tale of lifelong rivalry, and of two men chained together by a wager that would destroy them both.
The Judge and His Hangman Friedrich Dürrenmatt
In The Judge and His Hangman, Inspector Barlach forgoes the arrest of a murderer in order to manipulate him into killing another, more elusive criminal.
I read the original, German language publication of the book from 1950, "Der Richter und sein Henker", as part of an introductory German language class.
I had not thought about it at any recent time, until I was reflecting upon this discussion.
Of course, it is still unknown (to me) as to what chapter(s) could yet emerge in the real-life investigations (there are many) that are related to the life of Donald J. Trump.
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In The Judge and His Hangman, Inspector Barlach forgoes the arrest of a murderer in order to manipulate him into killing another, more elusive criminal.
I read the original, German language publication of the book from 1950, "Der Richter und sein Henker", as part of an introductory German language class.
I had not thought about it at any recent time, until I was reflecting upon this discussion.
Of course, it is still unknown (to me) as to what chapter(s) could yet emerge in the real-life investigations (there are many) that are related to the life of Donald J. Trump.
Sounds like he was doing business with the Clintons.
Back up a small ways, and Rickady88GT checks in with a "zinger."
After that, looks like some sarcasm from Jake_Dragon. So I think a better format is in order. Nothing more than that.
Tulsi Gabbard was on MSNBC's "Morning Joe" and called the NBC News report that I used to start this thread "false, and debunked by experts."
I have no second thoughts or "buyer's regret" about my Original Post, or post#0.
When I put something like this on the forum--back to the very start, here--I am reporting to the forum on what NBC News is reporting. NBC News, or any other source that I have.
"Clean Up on Aisle Nine" When I added my own words at the end, "The fix is in," I put those words in quotation marks, as a signal that the words should not be taken at face value, or without a "grain of salt." I meant that to be taken as a quip. A way of saying that there is going to be a lot more to the story before Tulsi Gabbard or anyone else emerges as the winner of the next presidential election cycle.
When I put something like this on the forum, it is because I think it is new and interesting. Or, new and weird. Or new, and connected to something or someone else that is already part of the forum. It might be an rinselberg agenda-driven message, to challenge what I believe to be in error, or support what I believe to be accurate. It could even be an rinselberg-instigated "Troll" event, just looking for certain kinds of reaction(s); although, more often than not, I think it is likely best described or categorized using one of these other categories or "bins", or reasons. It could also combine two (or maybe more than two) such reasons at the same time--a "hybrid" or "multi-purpose" message.
I don't think it is wrong for me to refer to myself as "rinselberg" on this forum, within the context of one of these messages. I don't do it all of the time. Frequently, though. I think using the third person voice or perspective in a self-referential way can often provide a sharper clarity of message or a smoother sequence of words, than if I always referred to myself in the first person as "I" or "me" (etc.)
I'm not trying to imitate or follow the example of President Trump. I don't think it's grandiose or grandstanding. I think it reflects a kind of detachment that I have, about "posting", that frees me to use a wider range of expression for myself than I would use in any ordinary face-to-face or "real world" context. Click to show
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When I added my own words at the end, "The fix is in," I put those words in quotation marks, as a signal that the words should not be taken at face value, or without a "grain of salt." I meant that to be taken as a quip. A way of saying that there is going to be a lot more to the story before Tulsi Gabbard or anyone else emerges as the winner of the next presidential election cycle.
When I put something like this on the forum, it is because I think it is new and interesting. Or, new and weird. Or new, and connected to something or someone else that is already part of the forum. It might be an rinselberg agenda-driven message, to challenge what I believe to be in error, or support what I believe to be accurate. It could even be an rinselberg-instigated "Troll" event, just looking for certain kinds of reaction(s); although, more often than not, I think it is likely best described or categorized using one of these other categories or "bins", or reasons. It could also combine two (or maybe more than two) such reasons at the same time--a "hybrid" or "multi-purpose" message.
I don't think it is wrong for me to refer to myself as "rinselberg" on this forum, within the context of one of these messages. I don't do it all of the time. Frequently, though. I think using the third person voice or perspective in a self-referential way can often provide a sharper clarity of message or a smoother sequence of words, than if I always referred to myself in the first person as "I" or "me" (etc.)
I'm not trying to imitate or follow the example of President Trump. I don't think it's grandiose or grandstanding. I think it reflects a kind of detachment that I have, about "posting", that frees me to use a wider range of expression for myself than I would use in any ordinary face-to-face or "real world" context.
When a person is rude, I am less inclined to respect their thinking or want to respond to their questions. Whether their questions are explicit or just implicit.
When it comes to rude, forum member randye is in a class by himself. I have not ever before encountered such an online or Internet presence.
I will extend myself, however.
There was real dysfunction going on when I registered with OptiBoard, back in 2004. One of the consequences was that I would not see an eye doctor, and I would not update with the new prescription lenses that were called for. I just persisted in researching online about prescription lenses and spectacle frames. It took an absurdly long time before I was able to get past that and go to an eye doctor and get myself updated with a new frame and prescription lenses. Since then, I have kept my prescription lenses up to date.
I never misrepresented myself as an eye care professional or "ECP" of any kind. At that time, when I registered in 2004, the (now legendary here, it would seem) OptiBoard was not strictly limited to ECPs. The people that I was conversing with online were generally aware that I was not an ECP; just an eye care patient.
I was not the only one in that category (eye care patient) that was involved in the conversations. Even in the technical or ECP-focused sections of the forum.
The rude narrative that Mr randye has presented, that I was some kind of greatly deluded online Troll that pretended to be an ECP, or made a big nuisance of myself in the "Just Conversation" section, is way, way off base. He has drawn that narrative by picking out some very small number of forum messages from a much larger database. A cherry pick. And by mistakenly presuming that whatever it is about me that so remarkably draws his ire here, on Pennock's, was equally offensive to the many at OptiBoard. Wrong.
He may well be unaware that OptiBoard was carefully moderated by the owner, who actually had a team of moderators, with the owner at the top. Were Mr randye, for whatever reason, to have created access for himself at OptiBoard, and then conducted himself as he does here at Pennock's, his OptBoard access would have been terminated in very short order.
I had some "scrapes". Rubbed some people of that forum the wrong way. It happened in the Just Conversation section and in at least one of the ECP or technical sections. But that was more the exception, than the rule. No one got "worked up" about my RadioFreeRinsel act. My "compendium" or directory of my most treasured OptiBoard messages. That was all in the Just Conversation section.
That's as far as I want to extend myself, at this moment.
There was real dysfunction going on when I registered with OptiBoard, back in 2004. One of the consequences was that I would not see an eye doctor....
I just persisted in researching online....
It took an absurdly long time before I was able to get past that and go to an eye doctor
So you have a self-admitted history of refusing to get treatment that you obviously need and instead spend your time on the internet being dysfunctional.
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YOU'RE SICK RONALD.....GO GET HELP
It's already been "an absurdly long time".
Call Them Now:
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Your persistent overreach--your obvious pattern of drawing false or misleading conclusions, based on incomplete and insufficient data--is remarkable.
You constructed a misleading (and astonishingly rude) narrative about me, involving OptiBoard.
This tendency towards overreach is characteristic of your entire body of "work" here. It speaks to me from literally hundreds (100s) of the Pennock's Off Topic messages that you have created.
You may remember that just over two months ago, in November, two (2) of your messages were deleted by Cliff Pennock. Transgendered images of Obama, each one overlaid with some particularly unseemly thoughts that emanated from your keyboard, or whatever you use to create your messaging poison.
You need to hand over a printout or screen copy of those images, and a printout or screen copy of this conversation, to an adult family member, or to an MD or a psychologist or psychiatrist at the VA facility or some other clinic or hospital that you use. You have OCD or some other neurosis that is evident in these conversations. Or you have Internet autism. It's blindingly obvious.
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