I see NY has passed a late term abortion law allowing them and other states are trying to do the same i think Late term abortion is murder why i say this is if a women was murdered and was pregnant the murderer would be charged as taking 2 lifes if she was in the second or third trimester of pregnancy so how can it not be murder for late term abortion. one more thing i am not against abortion but i am against late term abortion .
I see NY has passed a late term abortion law allowing them and other states are trying to do the same i think Late term abortion is murder why i say this is if a women was murdered and was pregnant the murderer would be charged as taking 2 lifes if she was in the second or third trimester of pregnancy so how can it not be murder for late term abortion. one more thing i am not against abortion but i am against late term abortion .
They changed that law now as well, because of this law its not murder if the baby is not born. People are sick, they have no moral compass.
you are right they are sick i could not believe my ears when the governor of Virginia who is a pediatrician say they would deliver the baby then resuscitate the baby make it comfortable then have a discussion on what to do next thank god the law did not pass in Virginia as he was ready to sign it into law
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Late term and post pregnancy abortions have always been the end goal of the 'pro-choice' movement. The only reason the gloves are coming off now is that they're afraid that the Notorious RBG is about to bite it and they want to stick it to President Trump before he nominates another constitutionalist jurist to the supreme court. Doing so might put 'Roe vs. Wade' (their holy sacrament) at risk and they can't have that.
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I can't even [try] to begin to comprehend the mindset.
These are my grandsons at 24 weeks. Born in Albany, NY nonetheless. The hospital asked, even suggested to abort!! They're 7 years old now and all boy!!!
How can the nurses/doctors go home at night and sleep after committing murder!!!!!!!!!!
You know how they say its a slippery slope? This proves it really is. Remember when we used to say "whats next... aborting at any time? As if birth is what makes the baby a human baby?" Well, we seem to be building up speed down that slope. Whats next? And don't tell me it wont happen.
You know how they say its a slippery slope? This proves it really is. Remember when we used to say "whats next... aborting at any time? As if birth is what makes the baby a human baby?" Well, we seem to be building up speed down that slope. Whats next? And don't tell me it wont happen.
Calling it "woman's health" is where it started. They ignore the FACT that the baby is not a piece of the women as if it were a cancerous tumor. Calling it a woman's health issue opens the door to getting rid of the "tumor at ANY time.
just remember walls are immoral but killing a baby in the third trimester is not
It is that kind of absurdity, coupled with an absolute cornucopia of misinformation and irrational, antisocial behavior that has convinced me that nothing good will come from trying to debate a leftist.
Some people are sick MFs..... I'm hoping they burn in a lake of fire for their Final Destination.
Actually, I am hoping and praying that they will see the error of their ways, and ask for forgiveness. There are some that have already, including doctors and nurses who actually performed many, many abortions. And we cannot forget the mothers who aborted also. They too are forgivable.
Actually, I am hoping and praying that they will see the error of their ways, and ask for forgiveness. There are some that have already, including doctors and nurses who actually performed many, many abortions. And we cannot forget the mothers who aborted also. They too are forgivable.
Ask for forgiveness from who exactly?
These are completely amoral people who do what they do because they don't believe in any higher power than themselves.
We can all pray for their eventual epiphany, but as far into absolute depravity as this has now gone can even worse be far behind?
If they're ok with this then why not euthanizing the elderly?
Why not the terminally ill of any age?
Why not the mentally deficient or mentally ill?
Why not the crippled?
Why not_______?
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These are completely amoral people who do what they do because they don't believe in any higher power than themselves.
We can all pray for their eventual epiphany, but as far into absolute depravity as this has now gone can even worse be far behind?
If they're ok with this then why not euthanizing the elderly?
Why not the terminally ill of any age?
Why not the mentally deficient or mentally ill?
Why not the crippled?
Why not_______?
they just haven't got to that yet one step at a time is what they are doing and it is sick to watch as no one really understands that is the plan to change things slowly so you just wake up one day and say what the F happened
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they just haven't got to that yet one step at a time is what they are doing and it is sick to watch as no one really understands that is the plan to change things slowly so you just wake up one day and say what the F happened
I vividly remember when Democrats said: "Abortion should be “safe, legal, and rare”.
I remember when they also said: "When necessary to protect the life of the mother".
I remember when Democrats were told that medical science shows that less than 1% of abortions were necessary for the health or life of the mother and STILL they demanded the other 99%.
I remember when the left said: "It's just a clump of cells"
If leftist / liberal social policies really led inexorably to fewer unplanned pregnancies and thus fewer abortions, you would expect “blue” regions of the country to have lower teen pregnancy rates and fewer abortions per capita than demographically similar “red” regions.
But that isn’t what the data shows. Instead, abortion rates are higher in more liberal states,
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Originally posted by MadMark: I am hoping and praying that they (the abortion providers) will see the error of their ways, and ask for forgiveness.
... we cannot forget the mothers who aborted also. They too are forgivable.
Hmm ...
As a Christian, I love your post.
As a Christian, I would like to emphasize "ask for forgiveness".
There is a lot more to asking for forgiveness than just asking. One can go much further than that, proving they want forgiveness, even if it is just a little bit. My thoughts here apply to friendships, marriage, and any kind of relationship.
We all make mistakes and should ask for forgiveness.
I have known women who did abort a child. Most can't forgive themselves.
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I forgot to post, (actually the reason I decided to post) that the Virginia Governor signed a Bill, making it law, the exact same 'Right'. He is on tape, (audio and video) defending his action.
Saying "we would deliver the infant, make it comfortable, and then decide whether to abort it, clarifying allow the woman and her doctor to have a discussion on whether or not to abort the infant. Further adding that a group of doctors would be involved.
THAT IS INFANTICIDE !
He did that on Monday. Imagine my glee on Friday when someone discovered his college Yearbook. Where his picture was found dressed up with a fellow depraved individual who posed as a person in blackface standing next to a person dressed in a Klu Klux Klan costume. He admitted it was him yet did not provide details on whether he was 'blackface' or klan member.
Wait, there is more ... I am not making this up ... his closing shot at his challenger while running for Governor ... he proclaimed that voting for his challenger was a vote for electing a racist such as President Trump.
Originally posted by cliffw: He admitted it was him (... dressed up with a fellow depraved individual who posed as a person in blackface standing next to a person dressed in a Klu Klux Klan costume yet did not provide details on whether he was 'blackface' or klan member ...).
Now, fast forward to today. He claims it wasn't him, but that he did 'black face' once in San Antonio at a contest where he impersonated Michael Jackson doing the Moon Walk.
Can it get any worse ? Why yes, yes it can, I am glad you asked.
When asked if he could still do the Moon Walk, his brain was stumbling around for a response. His wife tried to bail him out by saying "in appropriate circumstances", which he repeated, crediting his wife.
It was an appropriate question and deserved an answer. Of which the best answer would have been a demonstration.
Me thinks that he is learning to Moon Walk, .
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Now, fast forward to today. He claims it wasn't him, but that he did 'black face' once in San Antonio at a contest where he impersonated Michael Jackson doing the Moon Walk.
Can it get any worse ? Why yes, yes it can, I am glad you asked.
Originally posted by randye: These are completely amoral people who do what they do because they don't believe in any higher power than themselves.
I dont either, I am a very firm believer in the power of self. Hell, "Anthem" by Ayn Rand IS my anthem.
HOWEVER, that doesnt mean I have lost a moral compass. It doesn't take religion to know right from wrong, that is something that comes from inside a man no matter what.
Some folks may disagree with some of my stances, but if you sit back and examine them, we are coming from the same place just different angles on it.
This is not really a surprise, in view of our sad human record of mass killing in world history. Just to refer to recent times, the WW2-era people responsible for deporting and killing millions of Jews and other ‘undesirables’ seemed to fall into two categories: the core ‘believers’ (who imagined and put the policies in place and pursued them with relish) and the ‘enablers’ (regular folks who were too afraid to ‘just say no’ to their duties, so as not to disappear with their families in the dead of night). This latter group, by far the majority, went along to survive but tried to soften the blow, so to speak, to the people in their care when it was possible -- there are many instances of this. Curiously, with our human ability to compartmentalize, both types would go home at night, play with their children, and help a stray dog that might appear on their doorstep, then be at church on Sundays. I suspect the latter group was completely traumatized and suffered with PTSD and guilt long after the war. But the leaders, the core group, probably never gave it a second thought. I read a biography long ago of an abortion worker who getting home, after her first day on the job, puked her guts out and cried all night. Yet for the sake of ‘professionalism’ she forced herself to keep going and for decades was an abortion advocate and activist. Miraculously, something ‘woke her up’ later in life and she switched sides. I think somehow on the ‘pro-life’ side of the equation individuals need to be completely approachable and ready to help heal and love those who ‘wake up’ on the other side but I guess even that takes a miracle too.
I forgot to post, (actually the reason I decided to post) that the Virginia Governor signed a Bill, making it law, the exact same 'Right'. He is on tape, (audio and video) defending his action.
Saying "we would deliver the infant, make it comfortable, and then decide whether to abort it, clarifying allow the woman and her doctor to have a discussion on whether or not to abort the infant. Further adding that a group of doctors would be involved.
THAT IS INFANTICIDE !
He did that on Monday. Imagine my glee on Friday when someone discovered his college Yearbook. Where his picture was found dressed up with a fellow depraved individual who posed as a person in blackface standing next to a person dressed in a Klu Klux Klan costume. He admitted it was him yet did not provide details on whether he was 'blackface' or klan member.
Wait, there is more ... I am not making this up ... his closing shot at his challenger while running for Governor ... he proclaimed that voting for his challenger was a vote for electing a racist such as President Trump.
Cliff, I dont think there is one single one of us who would pull out a pistol, fire at a baby, and call it "OK"..bullshit, man.
Ya dont kill babies, puppies or kittens,,,
I might be a mean old miserable bastard who should probably shave more then twice a week...I might joke about chinese food and cats...
And, I have never in my life thought killing a little tiny thing who never did squat to me was a good idea.
It doesn't take religion to know right from wrong, that is something that comes from inside a man no matter what.
History is full of people who have committed horrible acts and atrocities who were absolutely convinced that they were doing the right and "moral" thing.
Invariably, those same people were always following their own "morals" or those of other men.
Originally posted by randye: History is full of people who have committed horrible acts and atrocities who were absolutely convinced that they were doing the right and "moral" thing.
Invariably, those same people were always following their own "morals" or those of other men.
Some of the cruelest people in history, act in the name of religion. I dont see too many faithless strapping on vests or building IED's...that territory seems to be reserved for believers of one sort or another.
Some of the cruelest people in history, act in the name of religion. I dont see too many faithless strapping on vests or building IED's...that territory seems to be reserved for believers of one sort or another.
You talk like they are all the same. That is an error. Research and ask yourself if the actions taken by an individual fit the belief they espouse. What kind of faith does it take to believe one needs to blow up strangers via suicide? Last ditch effort of desparate, not faith. Sick twisted stuff. There are also major differences in religions if you hadn't noticed. Peoples beliefs, or lack there of can be used as a tool by the power hungry.
As to the topic: I know my religious belief is quite anti baby killing.
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If anything on the planet can be screwed up, look for the dems to figure out how they do it. Anyone who allows an infant that is born to die intentionally should go to prison for murder period. Im all for a women deciding to carry a baby or not, but an abortion should be done in early stages like 2-3 months. If they dont want it, they can always give it up for adoption. Lots of people who want kids, but cant ,would love more to choose from.
Probably reached our human limit. I should post a pic of semen on some dust. That seemed appropriate for many.
We are beside ourselves on this one here. Just baffled by what is now acceptable and what is now unacceptable. I remain unchanged and solidified in my values.
Help out someone today. Just a random stranger or neighbor. Do it purposely to feel better about yourself. See what happens next.
The truly frightening thing is that we are nowhere near the limit. Look at the Aztecs as just one example. The depths of depravity of which humans are capable is astounding.