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Computer upgrade advice? by bonaduce
Started on: 01-10-2019 08:08 AM
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Report this Post01-10-2019 08:08 AM Click Here to See the Profile for bonaduceClick Here to Email bonaduceSend a Private Message to bonaduceEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

So with AMD's announcement that they will not be releasing RYZEN 3000 until Mid 2019, I am left wondering my best route of action. Current spec of rig amd fx 8150, 16 gigs ddr3, and a 760 ti (according to "wheres my bottleneck" it is the GPU.

CPU
AMD - Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7 GHz 8-Core Processor $309.99

Motherboard
MSI - X470 GAMING PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard $129.58

Memory
Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $119.99

Storage
Samsung - 860 Evo 250 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $52.00

Video Card
MSI - GeForce RTX 2070 8 GB Video Card $499.99

Case
Phanteks - Eclipse P350X (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case $59.99

Power Supply
Corsair - CX (2017) 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply $54.99


Option 1: Continue with listed build, and bypass RYZEN 3000, until next generation.
Option 2: Continue with build but with lower RYZEN, say a 5, until release and then buy new generation. Then sell the 5.
Option 3: Upgrade the GPU now, wait for release and then go full build. This option then moves the bottleneck to the cpu.

Thank you for any and all advice/guidance.

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From those options, I would pick #3.The first two look like "impatience tax". Also, you don't need the latest and greatest video card. For example, you probably won't be able to tell the difference (in real world computer usage) between a GTX 1070 and RTX 2070. But the GTX 1070 is $100 cheaper. Either one will be a significant upgrade from that GTX 760.

Another thing to consider, if you don't have a SSD as your boot drive, you should consider getting one. It will significantly shorten the load times of just about everything. And that will make your computer feel more responsive.

Long story short, I suggest getting a Geforce GTX 1070 and Samsung 860 Evo.

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Originally posted by Blacktree:

From those options, I would pick #3.The first two look like "impatience tax". Also, you don't need the latest and greatest video card. For example, you probably won't be able to tell the difference (in real world computer usage) between a GTX 1070 and RTX 2070. But the GTX 1070 is $100 cheaper. Either one will be a significant upgrade from that GTX 760.

Another thing to consider, if you don't have a SSD as your boot drive, you should consider getting one. It will significantly shorten the load times of just about everything. And that will make your computer feel more responsive.

Long story short, I suggest getting a Geforce GTX 1070 and Samsung 860 Evo.



Agreed, in total.

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Report this Post01-10-2019 12:39 PM Click Here to See the Profile for bonaduceClick Here to Email bonaduceSend a Private Message to bonaduceEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

Thanks, was my thinking also, and yes already have an 860 evo in the original machine.

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760 Ti is a "problem" if you need fast GPU... Example: See https://www.techpowerup.com...gtx-760-ti-oem.c2491
Any Ti version is a lower end unit and while can play games etc is not made to be a "best" product.
I have 750 Ti and works very well for most things but it still a "low end" card all the same.

DL HWMonitor from CPUid and run that while you run whatever.
Or find other things to monitor the system other that BS "bench mark" software. (If Win7... find "GPU meter" gadget to monitor the vid card.)
I doubt you find most of the thing you run won't push CPU or GPU even close to 90%+ utilization. I can't even push to 95% utilization in many FurMark etc tests. Most time the vid card and most everything else is at idle or close to that. (AMD Phenom Black FX-8370 and 12GB DDR3 RAM)

Check MoBo "BIOS" too. If you have a "turbo"/"Black" AMD CPU and BIOS is not setup to run turbo then system won't run at top speeds often even with AMD software.

Even then, most GPU will barf on most Displays causing Frame Tearing etc. IOW Doesn't matter when any Bench Mark software "claims" the system can generate 60 100 and more FPS and Displays connected to them only handles 30-50 FPS.

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Report this Post01-10-2019 05:29 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Jake_DragonSend a Private Message to Jake_DragonEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

It really depends on what you want to do with the computer.
My current Game rig has an intel(r) core(tm) i7-7700 cpu @ 3.60ghz 3.60 ghz as the VR games are being written for it.

The GTX 1070 runs everything I throw at it at a pretty good frame rate.
My VR head set does not support SLI so keep that in mind as you may not want to go to the top of the line GPU but don't expect to add a second on later if you are going to be playing VR as you will have to disable it.
When I purchased this one the GTX 1080 was only a couple of months old and the 1070 was the better deal.

Ram and SS drives should be your next goal and should fit what you are doing with it.

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