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Just a little, welcomed, and needed hiatus. So many little demoncrats and their hate. Besides the false claims, threats, and craiglsist postings, even more tomfoolery entailed a month or so ago. It seems that besides families, demoncrats like to see personal business fail in America. You cannot take what you did not earn. I win, again. Voted straight red. I will continue to do such until you children can get your shat in line.

If this offends you, then you hold some deep rooted issue with a person on the internets. Leave it at that, or don't. I will act in accordance.

If ya have the nuts, comment. I got about another day or so before it is Pennocks sleepy time again. Not hating on most. Just the several that believe I know little.
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Just a little, welcomed, and needed hiatus. So many little demoncrats and their hate. Besides the false claims, threats, and craiglsist postings, even more tomfoolery entailed a month or so ago. It seems that besides families, demoncrats like to see personal business fail in America. You cannot take what you did not earn. I win, again. Voted straight red. I will continue to do such until you children can get your shat in line.

If this offends you, then you hold some deep rooted issue with a person on the internets. Leave it at that, or don't. I will act in accordance.

If ya have the nuts, comment. I got about another day or so before it is Pennocks sleepy time again. Not hating on most. Just the several that believe I know little.



There really aren't many Democrats left on here...

Maybe Shemdogg, who I think is just a recycled name from someone who keeps getting booted. ShadeBall, and occasionally Boonie. The rest of us are all pretty much conservative that are left. We succeeded in shouting out all the Dems... hahah... not really the intention, but I think they got tired of losing arguments. I'm always a fan of good solid debates, not name calling. But it can be frustrating when someone doesn't see your perspective, and people tend to result in name calling.

I'm always a fan of logic and reason, and for that matter, I can argue endlessly... perhaps Democrats hate me more because I rarely give them the out. They're always looking for that ONE thing where they can say.... "OOOH!!! Name calling, well... I'm not wasting my time here with someone who's abusive!" or whatever...
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Hey 82Ta youre a retard Im no liberal yer thinkin of 3dog not me. For such a huge fan of logic and reason you coulda done a lil research on here before bashing me. Love your comment about how youve driven the dems outta this forum really. So when theres no one to argue with you , you must be right right? lol

Tony I dont blame you for taking a break, I know some losers messin w you on cl. karma finds its way around so dont stress too much.

Gotta love some of the OT guys on here, they dont post anywhere else and probably dont even have a fiero. Im on a lot of forums and its pretty common. Losers w nothing to do

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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]: There really aren't many Democrats left on here...

In other words, O/T is becoming an echo chamber.
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There are no Democrats posting here because they are all in Florida, still filling out ballots.
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Originally posted by Blacktree:

In other words, O/T is becoming an echo chamber.


Expressing an opposing point of view is good, but for example "threedog" does not post opposing views with a logical explanation for opposing others. He seems to post in such a way to cause reactions for the purpose of copy pasting those reactions to other media. I don't know that he does this, it is just food for thought. And yes, we do have others from different views that also post seemingly volatile comments.
Bottom line is that this section of the forum is not for the thin skinned. And it helps if the people that do post, explain why they express their views and don't just do hit and runs. This comment is not aimed at any one person or point of view, it is just common sense communication skill. I am no doubt a Conservative, but I have high respect for those that convey an opposing point of view concisely and without animosity.
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Originally posted by williegoat:

There are no Democrats posting here because they are all in Florida, still filling out ballots.


So much for deadlines and cutoff rules and regulations. Imagine an election where there is not deadlines? 2020 could be the longest running election in history, recounting ballots every week until the ballots stop coming in. That would mean endless election campaign commercials I know we all love those

The "I VOTED" stickers would then read "I'M VOTING" and election day would then become the start of "election season" and some would even vote more than once, like getting hunting tags during hunting season. Vote once, or twice each day during "election season" till the last recount announces the end of the season.

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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
There really aren't many Democrats left on here... maybe Shemdogg, who I think is just a recycled name from someone who keeps getting booted. ShadeBall, and occasionally Boonie. The rest of us are all pretty much conservative that are left. We succeeded in shouting out all the Dems... hahah... not really the intention, but I think they got tired of losing arguments. I'm always a fan of good solid debates, not name calling. But it can be frustrating when someone doesn't see your perspective, and people tend to result in name calling.

I'm always a fan of logic and reason, and for that matter, I can argue endlessly... perhaps Democrats hate me more because I rarely give them the out. They're always looking for that ONE thing where they can say.... "OOOH!!! Name calling, well... I'm not wasting my time here with someone who's abusive!" or whatever...


ShadeBall, rinse, rinselberg... I answer to any and all such honorifics.

That is a strikingly bizarre statement from you, Mr "82-T/A."

As the midterm elections were approaching, and now that the electoral outcomes are still fresh, in terms of the national news cycle, I have been relatively quiescent here, in the Totally O/T section. I am interested in absorbing the latest news reports and OpEd's from my favored media sources.

But my calling attention to any of that, here on Totally O/T, with public messages like this or "posts"... not so much, of late. Not as I was when the Mueller investigation had just started running offensive plays from scrimmage, starting from the Special Counsel's 25-yard line. That was about 18 months ago, when "one" Michael Thomas Flynn was the focus of so many front page news reports--and became the inspirational "fuel" that fed my Totally O/T "fire."






It could be that I am merely waiting for the next "Shiny New Media Object." The next "Mike Flynn." The next political news story that really takes my fancy, and gives me the urge to "talk" about it here, "big time."

But I think it is more accurate to say that I have, of late, been able to achieve a good measure of completion, or closure, in terms of my relationship with this discussion forum, and this is what has empowered me to conduct my recent operations here with a perceptible reduction in the "rinselberg" forum footprint. A lessened visibility. A lower profile. A less conspicuous presence. Not "rinselberg", but "rinselberg". I have downsized.

So, which? Time will tell.

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yer thinkin of 3dog not me.

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The case of too many dogs
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Expressing an opposing point of view is good, but for example "threedog" does not post opposing views with a logical explanation for opposing others. He seems to post in such a way to cause reactions for the purpose of copy pasting those reactions to other media. I don't know that he does this, .


Likley a paid blogger/poster.
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I have been relatively quiescent here,



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Hey 82Ta youre a retard Im no liberal yer thinkin of 3dog not me. For such a huge fan of logic and reason you coulda done a lil research on here before bashing me. Love your comment about how youve driven the dems outta this forum really. So when theres no one to argue with you , you must be right right? lol

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Hahah... ok, sorry... got you mixed up. Probably could have toned down that response, but I'm not a millennial so I can handle it.


 
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In other words, O/T is becoming an echo chamber.



Pretty much, but... you don't really find many Democrats on "fix it" forums anymore, since most hands-on people voted for Trump this go-around. The majority of the Democrats are either part of some self-defined victim group, or they spent all their time getting a liberal arts degree, rather than learning a trade or getting an actual science or engineering degree.


 
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ShadeBall, rinse, rinselberg... I answer to any and all such honorifics.

That is a strikingly bizarre statement from you, Mr "82-T/A" or [I won't use your given name. Unless you want to include it here, yourself. But it's in my mind.]




I don't really get what was bizarre that I said? Was it that I called you a Democrat? I mean, I guess I just assumed...

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There really aren't many Democrats left on here... and occasionally Boonie...logic and reason,


I am not a Democrat.
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Yeah my bad that was rough, just dont like being called a mindless I wanna destroy my home because Im too dumb to make it in life or have a brain to think for myself cuz thats too difficult n everythings too expensive cuz I dont wanna work kinda person kinda guy.

Isnt it weird the republicans are pushing the democratic(no/less govt) agenda?

anybody see hillarys america? last movie I saw in theaters

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anybody see hillarys america? last movie I saw in theaters

shem

I have seen all of D’Souza’s movies. "Hillary's America" and "Death of a Nation" are scarier than any horror movie ever made.
I wish more lefties would go see them, but they never will.
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I don't really get what was bizarre that I said? Was it that I called you a Democrat? I mean, I guess I just assumed...

I guess I was "taken aback" with what you said about "shemdogg." It is only now that I realize that you were confusing the "shemdogg" screen name with the "Threedog" screen name. Not that I agree with anything that you tried to say or imply about "Threedog" with that statement. I don't want to pick up on that, one way or the other. Not at this juncture.


 
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Pretty much, but... you don't really find many Democrats on "fix it" forums anymore, since most hands-on people voted for Trump this go-around. The majority of the Democrats are either part of some self-defined victim group, or they spent all their time getting a liberal arts degree, rather than learning a trade or getting an actual science or engineering degree.

I haven't seen any polling data or any other kind of analysis that makes me think that members of the national Democratic Party or any affiliated groups or organizations, or registered Democratic voters, or formally independent but currently Democratic-leaning voters, are groups that are underrepresented among that cross-section of the population that has a credentialed or documented proficiency in Science, Technology, Engineering and Mathematics or STEM.

I think that part of your statement is a Leap of Faith, and a highly questionable assumption--at one and the same time. A two-headed apparition with an ethereal and wraith-like quality that is more suggestive of the categories of Fantasy and Phantasm, than it is of any Concrete Reality. (QED.)

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I am not a Democrat.



Sorry Boonie… you know I like you. I'm just saying, sometimes you like to "test the waters" here, hahaha...


 
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Yeah my bad that was rough, just dont like being called a mindless I wanna destroy my home because Im too dumb to make it in life or have a brain to think for myself cuz thats too difficult n everythings too expensive cuz I dont wanna work kinda person kinda guy.

Isnt it weird the republicans are pushing the democratic(no/less govt) agenda?

shem



No problem, sorry about that, hahahah.


What's fascinating to me is... Donald Trump is basically Bill Clinton... economically. He embodies the Democrat agenda from literally ~15 years ago. As a matter of fact, some of the things he's pushing are also very Bernie Sanders-esq.

I say this not as an insult, but to make people realize just how far left Democrats have shifted in the past decade. Trump, as Reagan did, was able to capture not only the majority of the Republican vote, but also the working-class Americans (to use a Democrat term) that don't identify as part of a "victim" group.

Literally, the Democrat party is made up of three kinds of people now:
1 - Those who support a very, VERY radical left agenda (socialism, etc.)
2 - Those who are totally ignorant of what they are supporting (most young people)
3 - Those who have yet to come to terms with the fact that their party has shifted drastically from their own beliefs.


 
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I haven't seen any polling data or any other kind of analysis that makes me think that members of the national Democratic Party or any affiliated groups or organizations, or registered Democratic voters, or formally independent but currently Democratic-leaning voters, are groups that are underrepresented among that cross-section of the population that has a credentialed or documented proficiency in Science, Technology, Engineering and Mathematics or STEM.

I think that part of your statement is a Leap of Faith, and a highly questionable assumption--at one and the same time. A two-headed apparition with an ethereal and wraith-like quality that is more suggestive of the categories of Fantasy and Phantasm, than it is of any Concrete Reality. (QED.)




Rinse, I am definitely going to address this. There is a VERY large misunderstanding about how Democrats portray the "stats" of their supporters, while at the same time denigrating the "stats" of their opponents.


Democrats ALWAYS point to big cities and say... "Look! Highest content of degrees, and they're all Democrats." They conflate massive numbers of poor in the ghettos and on welfare, with the total numbers of people working in the city with degrees. They essentially assume that they're all Democrats by virtue of using the totals of poor people living in the inner-city. These statistics are ALWAYS totally misrepresented by the media.


Here are some facts that we know:

1 - Young people today are FAR MORE LIKELY to get degrees than young people of any other generation.
2 - More than 50% of these degrees are Liberal Arts and Humanities degrees.
3 - Young people have ALWAYS been far more likely to vote Democrat, and then often become Republican as they get older.


I'd like to point out these three things as being particularly important. Most young people are Democrats, as I was when I was a kid, even coming from a Republican household. My first vote was the re-election of Bill Clinton.

STEM and business degrees, outside of healthcare and other trade-specific degrees... when looking at the population as a whole, skew inordinately towards people who generally vote Conservative and Independent. Liberal Arts degrees are almost exclusively a thing identified by Democrat voters, and in particular... Millennials. The only other time in history that liberal arts degrees even came close to the levels they are now, was in the early 1970s. I've moved and worked in many places, mostly in liberal bastions. The overwhelming vast majority of programmers and engineers that I work with (of which I am also) have all been either Conservative, or Independent.

Silicon Valley represents much of a statistical anomaly because it not only attracts Liberals with STEM degrees, but it's also made up entirely of a younger generation. Two factors that contribute to a growing stereotype that liberals and STEM go hand in hand. The truth though, is that most real engineers (mechanical, electrical, and computer science) are conservatives, and they live all over the country.


The issue with Liberal Arts degrees is what has caused this Millennial generation to cry foul. Most of the kids with engineering degrees, especially CompSci, are doing exceptionally well. It's all the other kids with Liberal Arts degrees who have fallen flat and aren't even able to make enough money to pay off their student loan debts. This is a UNIQUELY Millennial problem.

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