Thats in the back of my mind too. It would be just like liberals to do all this to blame it on the right. Maybe thats why none of the bombs went off...they werent supposed to. They just needed it to boost themselves to the public before elections. They wouldnt want to risk injuring any of their gods.
And then there is that thing where the Democrats blame Republicans for things again and again... And then it ends up being something the Dems did. I figure it's around 100% of the time it ends up being something the Dems cooked up to make the other side look bad.
I don't think it's a scheme from the top "leaders" of the party. Probably some Antifa scumbags.
And then there is that thing where the Democrats blame Republicans for things again and again... And then it ends up being something the Dems did. I figure it's around 100% of the time it ends up being something the Dems cooked up to make the other side look bad.
I don't think it's a scheme from the top "leaders" of the party. Probably some Antifa scumbags.
Some of these packages were hand delivered, others were mailed, and at least one was “returned to sender”; yet they arrived in Florida, California and New York all at the same time.
I can’t even get the post office to deliver a birthday card on time.
Some of these packages were hand delivered, others were mailed, and at least one was “returned to sender”; yet they arrived in Florida, California and New York all at the same time.
I can’t even get the post office to deliver a birthday card on time.
Some of the 10 suspected mail bombs addressed to high-profile Democrats and others over the last few days were flawed and not capable of exploding, while others have yet to be fully analyzed, several investigators said Thursday.
The left is still blaming the President, because the fake bombs were sent to Democrats. That makes about as much sense as blaming Debbie Wasserman Schultz because her name is on the package.
The same twisted mind put both names on each package.
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Makes you wonder, doesn't it? And so far, none of the "explosive devices" have actually exploded. Either the bomb maker is a total freaking idiot, or they're not made to explode. Making explosive devices is not difficult.
The newsmedia are quick to point fingers and make narratives. They have a habit of assuming perpetrators are right-wing and racist or discriminatory. So you'll have to excuse me if I take the narrative with a grain of salt.
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Left-leaning "news" outlets which always caution us not to assume a terrorist is Islamic just because he shouts "Allahu Akbar" are declaring with absolute certainty that the Rube Goldberg bombs were sent by a Trump-loving racist hillbilly who has been inflamed by the President's many imaginary calls for violence.
This one is going to be hard to pin down. A picture is beginning to emerge of a petty thief, drug dealer and con man who had several aliases and birth dates. Though he claimed "native American" lineage, it seems that he may actually be Filipino. Of course, early news reports are often wrong, so anything is possible.
That's what I was about to say WG. Here we go with a week of misinformation about the guy that did it, with the truth buried in made up stories, eventually becoming impossible to discern between the two.
Normally, I just wait for the dust to settle, but this one will affect the elections. I have been spending the morning listening to, and reading as much coverage as I can find. I want to know, now.
I had hoped that it was a false flag event, but it appears as if one Trump supporter was the culprit. But, no one is saying what he did was right. He was entirely in the wrong. If this is true then he needs to be prosecuted, convicted and sent to prison for a long long time.
This guy is definitely not a conservative. He is just an angry little guy. A petty criminal and complete failure in life who was always looking for the next way to make a fast buck. It looks like he was living with his parents and liked to hang around male strippers.
He just liked to threaten people. He once threatened to blow up the power company because his bill was too high.
He is wholly unprincipled, but like many leftists, he had to blame someone for his miserable existence and for unknown reasons chose Democrats as his bane.
It is interesting that the news media are avoiding calling these devices fake. They keep saying that they contained an "energetic" substance but that those which they have examined were "incapable".
Originally posted by williegoat: Normally, I just wait for the dust to settle, but this one will affect the elections.
It shouldn't affect the elections, because none of the candidates are affiliated with this guy. He's just another wack-job acting out. But unfortunately, "knee-jerk voting" is a thing.
This guy is definitely not a conservative. He is just an angry little guy. A petty criminal and complete failure in life who was always looking for the next way to make a fast buck. It looks like he was living with his parents and liked to hang around male strippers.
He just liked to threaten people. He once threatened to blow up the power company because his bill was too high.
He is wholly unprincipled, but like many leftists, he had to blame someone for his miserable existence and for unknown reasons chose Democrats as his bane.
"Sayoc described himself on social media as being affiliated with the Seminole Warriors boxing club.
However, his cousin said Sayoc’s mother was Italian and his biological father was Filipino, and his parents separated when he was a young boy. Altieri said the only connection to Native Americans was that Sayoc a decade and a half ago had dated a woman in Minnesota who was a member of a tribe."
His conviction for the bomb threat on Florida Power and Light was 2002
He reportedly only registered as a Republican in 2016 just prior to the election.
No known, (yet reported), political affiliation prior to that, not that it really matters, he's obviously a very mentally ill individual.
It is interesting that the news media are avoiding calling these devices fake. They keep saying that they contained an "energetic" substance but that those which they have examined were "incapable".
IED = Imitation Explosive Device
Along with other "interesting" things I have done in my checkered professional past, I spent a good bit of time, (years) working with a few inventor-researchers at Los Alamos Labs in the chemical energetic materials arena. My specific interest was / is with a material called 3,6-bis(1H-1,2,3,4-tetrazol-5-ylamino)-1,2,4,5-tetrazine (BTATz).
You learn pretty quickly that the term energetic materials encompasses everything from this:
to this:
to this:
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This is all new to me, I just learned about it this morning, I have been on a Mediterranean cruise and no outside contact (by choice). I heard on a radio news station that it was a PVC pipe? REALLY?? If so, this proves that it was not meant to kill anyone. A plastic pipe bomb with no fuse is harmless.
MLB Network's Kevin Millar reports the arrest of the suspect that has been awarded (by certain liberal-leaning cable TV hosts) the political code name of "MAGA-bomber."
OK. This is Fake News. About Kevin Millar. But NOT about the "MAGA-bomber" sobriquet--epithet, moniker, appellation; etc. I just heard that on radio.
"We're just idiots." 2004 World Series Champion Boston Red Sox
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If the link doesn't work, search for a USA Today article titled "For accused pipe bomber Cesar Sayoc, life was a stage where the truth was a bit player"
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Well, the Left wing media now has "A Trump Supporter" that mail bombed the Democrat party....
Since the Right can't seem to kneel and apologize fast enough for things they never did... We're done as far as I see. The Left is going to run hard with this, and support is already growing on the "attack Republicans back" train.
Well, the Left wing media now has "A Trump Supporter" that mail bombed the Democrat party....
Since the Right can't seem to kneel and apologize fast enough for things they never did... We're done as far as I see. The Left is going to run hard with this, and support is already growing on the "attack Republicans back" train.
This is why I have always been adamant about not using their tactics against them.
Well, the Left wing media now has "A Trump Supporter" that mail bombed the Democrat party....
Since the Right can't seem to kneel and apologize fast enough for things they never did... We're done as far as I see. The Left is going to run hard with this, and support is already growing on the "attack Republicans back" train.
"We're done"?
How so?
Rational people see this for what it is. A nutbag that could have attached himself to any cause or political party....and did.
Before he began to festoon his van in 2016 with all of the political stickers and signs he reportedly previously had it covered with "Native American rights" Seminole Tribe paraphernalia and slogans.
He's a New York born lunatic that's half Italian, half Filipino and claims to be a Florida Seminole Indian....along with a lot of other whackadoodle claims.
This psycho doesn't have any deeply held conservative ideological beliefs or core principles,, he's just bugfuk insane.
I don't believe this is going to change a damn thing about the upcoming midterm elections or anything thereafter.
We can all be thankful that he is an inept idiot and nobody got hurt or killed and that he's been caught and will hopefully be locked up for a long time.
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