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Guns don't work. by ls3mach
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https://www.google.com/amp/...-shooting/index.html


This in the wake of an open carry law being vetod.

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I hope the courts consider it justified, etc. You never know these days. You can do the right thing and go to jail for it.
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Yeah, in this state, it would be hard to "justify" turning your car around, getting your gun out of the trunk, and confronting the suspect. Unless you're an off-duty cop, you'l be answering a LOT of questions.
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Libertards don't (wanna) work either. Maybe we should ban them?
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Originally posted by Stubby79:

Libertards don't (wanna) work either. Maybe we should banshoot them?


FTFY

Seriously, some of the WORST people I have worked for the past 10 years are libtards.

They feel ENTITLED to labor (free preferably). The feel ENTITLED to sales (and are trying to sell ya sheet at gold prices)

A conservative s smart enough to realize it cheaper (and good business) to treat staff legally. Fines are a LOT more expensive than just staying legal. Liibtards just CANT wrap their peanut-brains around that concept.

A conservative realizes he needs to have a good product (or service) at a competitive price to stay in business. Litards get all demanding, whiney, pushy, offended and try to strong-arm and high-pressure sell their garbage product, then are surprised when nobody buys AND their attitude and behavior has driven everybody away., leaving them going out-of-business.

They are easy to spot too. Go to a small business seminar at just about any Chamber of Commerce, and WATCH who is driving the BMW, wearing Armani and a Rolex (All on credit) trying to make an impression, and then notice the ones driving decent but affordable domestics, wearing Moors suits and sporting a regular watch (IOW, has fiscal responsibility)

It aint that hard to sort them out.
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I've been labeled libtard, commie etc. I worked for everything I've ever received and I did my turn in the military. I'm offended every time I hear those words. I'm a centrist who has both conservative and liberal values. I won't stoop to calling conservatives or liberals names. Both groups have good ideas and neither is perfect. I assume that I won't get another neg for this because those who would have already done so.
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The hateful rhetoric needs to stop in our society.
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Originally posted by dratts:

I've been labeled libtard, commie etc. I worked for everything I've ever received and I did my turn in the military. I'm offended every time I hear those words. I'm a centrist who has both conservative and liberal values. I won't stoop to calling conservatives or liberals names. Both groups have good ideas and neither is perfect. I assume that I won't get another neg for this because those who would have already done so.


I've got you as a "+".

I've got plenty of lib friends, and we have some great lively conversations over a beer (Some even greet me with "Hey, ya f*ckin Nazi" and no offense is taken or intended).

I'll give you an example of the kind of thing I am talking about:

I lost a contract 3 weeks in (with a lib social-services type organization) last October. It wasn't real lucrative and had no long-term consequences, just another short-term paycheque.

I was working as part of a small group doing some machine mods and getting it running right, and we were joking around while working.

We starting joking some religious stuff (IE: Somebody pray this thing works this time. I wise-cracked something about "Just not to Allah, it will go Ack-BOOM on us again)--typical shop-floor joking around.

From 30-40 feet away some muzz b*tch come flying over screaming "I'm muzzie, you cant say that. I'm offended"

By the time the dust settled and I walked out 2 days later, the floor supervisor was involved (and offended), the facility manager was involved (and offended), the CEO was involved (and offended) and offended liberal government investigators were involved (Human rights) but couldnt do sh*t since I wasnt speaking to the camel-toe and she needs to learn to stay out of conversations that dont involve her (Plus as I told them, they DO NOT want to open a freedom FROM religion or Constitutional Rights freedom of thought and free speech war with me...I'd make it VERY public and VERY embarrassing for them).

BUT, that particular job was gone and the REAL kicker was I got "asked" not to bid on any future work with them, since I did not fit their "social values" profile. In short, even though I did nothing wrong, did excellent work, and all the various laws and rights were on MY side, it was "We dont want your kind around here"

In a conservative company, you know what would have happened ? Nothing. There would have been a 5-minute "investigation", I would have been told "please dont do that again", she would have been told to mind her own business and reminded that in Canada other ALSO have rights, now everybody get back to work. End of issue.

There are lots of other examples around here. A big famous international coffee brand is ALWAYS looking for techs, bat as part of the job they "offer" (the kind of offer you cant refuse) the "opportunity" for 100hrs a year (could be 75, its been a while since I bothered looking at them) of community volunteer work. HUH ??? In my book, working for free under compulsion is called slavery. No thanks.

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Originally posted by dratts:

I've been labeled libtard, commie etc. I worked for everything I've ever received and I did my turn in the military. I'm offended every time I hear those words. I'm a centrist who has both conservative and liberal values. I won't stoop to calling conservatives or liberals names. Both groups have good ideas and neither is perfect. I assume that I won't get another neg for this because those who would have already done so.


I don't know how you've contributed to the topic or how it had anything to do with you.
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A conservative is a liberal who's just been mugged.

A liberal is a conservative who's just been arrested.
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I don't know how you've contributed to the topic or how it had anything to do with you.


I was responding to Stubbys post.
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Liberal news agencies have barely reported on it. The morning after NBC, CBS, ABC and CNN gave a total of 6 minutes coverage. by evening it barely got a mention. School shootings even with only 1 or 2 victims get hours and hours for weeks. It didnt fit their agenda that guns are bad.
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I've been labeled libtard, commie etc. I worked for everything I've ever received and I did my turn in the military. I'm offended every time I hear those words. I'm a centrist who has both conservative and liberal values. I won't stoop to calling conservatives or liberals names. Both groups have good ideas and neither is perfect. I assume that I won't get another neg for this because those who would have already done so.


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Originally posted by rinselberg:

A conservative is a liberal who's just been mugged.

A liberal is a conservative who's just been arrested.


WRONG,

....but it's always amusing and instructive to see how leftists view reality through their whacky ideological kaleidoscope.

When we add your mental illness into the mix it's like a twisted stew of a Lewis Carroll tale and a Franz Kafka novel come to life.

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

A conservative is a liberal who's just been mugged.

A liberal is a conservative who's just been arrested.



Please stop pizzing in the watering hole.
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There you go again hurting my poor little feelings! Is it because I support Bernie? He is the most popular politician in the nation and has a long standing record of doing exactly what he says he believes in. I'm willing to kick him to curb if he turns out to be just like nearly every other politician but 'so far'. Am I misreading your posts intent?
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I suspect that DJT is the most popular politician in the Nation, no matter what the MSM tries to feed the masses.....
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There you go again hurting my poor little feelings! Is it because I support Bernie? He is the most popular politician in the nation and has a long standing record of doing exactly what he says he believes in. I'm willing to kick him to curb if he turns out to be just like nearly every other politician but 'so far'. Am I misreading your posts intent?


Nope, you didn't misread a damn thing.

We have been through this same crap with you over and over and over again.

Despite all your bullsh*t claims of being "middle of the road" and "centrist" all it takes is one mention of that old Communist bastard Bernie Sanders to make you drop the charade and, once again, show your continuing and unwavering support for the old Marxist lunatic and his failed ideology.

That is NOT "centrist" or "middle of the road" and you should damn well know it

If you claim that you don't know it then there are only a few rational explanations. Including:

1. You are one of the most clueless people I have ever encountered in terms of politics, history and ideology.

OR

2. You're dishonest.

OR

3. You have some sort of mental issues as a result of either a pathology, (brain injury, geriatric dementia or mental illness), or drug abuse.

............................

Now go ahead and do your usual song and dance about how "Democratic" Socialism is somehow different....

We have been over that crap with you many, many times before also.

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I give up. I've tried to be civil to you but you just want to be nasty to me. I'm not going to lower myself to calling you names in fact I think you're very intelligent and I don't remember you attacking anyone else like you do me. There is something wrong with you though.
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I give up. I've tried to be civil to you but you just want to be nasty to me. I'm not going to lower myself to calling you names in fact I think you're very intelligent and I don't remember you attacking anyone else like you do me. There is something wrong with you though.
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I give up. I've tried to be civil to you but you just want to be nasty to me.


WRONG

I have been FACTUAL with you.

If that bothers you, then you obviously think that the facts are nasty, but they still remain the facts despite your feelings.

Trying to play the "victim" and claim that you are being "attacked" is also another classic leftist ploy to avoid the truth.

Either MAN UP and be honest and have the courage of your stated convictions or just walk away, but either way just stop the phony victimhood crap.

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Ok is it me that you have an extreme dislike for or is it just because I believe in Bernie until he shows me a reason not to. I'm still trying to understand your attacks. I never attack you. I just respond to your attacks. What is your problem? We do have a mutual dislike of Hillary.

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We do have a mutual dislike of Hillary.



Which supposedly means what?

Be honest. The only reason that you *really* dislike Clinton is that you believe that she cheated your beloved Comrade Sanders out of the primary election.

That's when you started your transparent "both party's are bad" bullsh*t while at the same time refusing to be open and honest about your *3rd option* of the old bastard Commissar Sanders and his Marxist wet dreams that you love so much.

I actually did forget reason #4 in my earlier list. The obvious fact that you likely ARE a Marxist yourself.

Only a real Marxist - Communist thinks that his ideology is "centrist".

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I guess I missed the part where I pushed Marxism or communism. Please enlighten me. When did I do that? Hillary? Yes she and the DNC did cheat Bernie but she was crooked long before Bernie threw his hat in the ring. I was exactly like you back in the fifties and sixties. I even campaigned for Barry Goldwater who was as about far right as you can get. I sill think that Barry is an honest man although I don't agree with a lot of his positions. I don't go around labeling trump as a right wing fascist. He's been called that a lot but I don't agree. I'm able to alter my opinion at any time and I have in the past and I probably will do so again in the future but I don't respond well to being called names. If you want to have a civil discussion with me you might sway me. Calling me names won't change my viewpoints.

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I guess I missed the part where I pushed Marxism or communism. Please enlighten me. When did I do that? Edited to add. I decided to search 'democratic socialism and I find that it doesn't fit 100% with my views. I always thought that it promoted a balanced socialist/capitalist platform. According to the definition I read there is little to no acceptance of capitalism under democratic socialism I think that capitalism has it's place and sometimes it is the best answer. Greed is what corrupts capitalism. I've said it many times, I wouldn't want to live under a pure socialist society any more than I would want to live under a pure capitalist society. America comes as about as close as you can get to the best mixture of the two and when it slides too far to one side or the other I have a problem.

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dratts, Bernie Sanders is a Socialist and espouses Communist ideals.

I hope that answers your question.
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I've said it many times, I wouldn't want to live under a pure socialist society any more than I would want to live under a pure capitalist society. America comes as about as close as you can get to the best mixture of the two and when it slides too far to one side or the other I have a problem.



Then you should be very much against Comrade Sanders and his Marxism.

Lets try a (possibly oversimplified) explanation that you might be able to grasp:




Additionally, there is NO "mix of capitalism and socialism" in the United States.

The 2 economic systems are antithetical to each other.

If you truly believe in your fantasy of a "mix" of the two systems then you definitely don't understand economics, which we can then add to #1 in my earlier list of things you are clueless about.

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I was responding to Stubbys post.


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This is still valid:

 
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I don't know how you've contributed to the topic or how it had anything to do with you.

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