I assume other drugs will also knock you out but not let you actually rest. Like sleeping pills?
8 hours is good if you can get it.
I had an ex military guy tell me once he stayed up 5 days straight when he was in the military, sorry I don't remember which branch. I assume he was on some sort of upper to stay up that long?
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Tired all the time. Don't drink, don't smoke weed or anything else. Sleep like the dead for 8 hours straight each day. Almost never dream, that I'm aware of.
Tired all the time. Don't drink, don't smoke weed or anything else. Sleep like the dead for 8 hours straight each day. Almost never dream, that I'm aware of.
Tired all the time. Don't drink, don't smoke weed or anything else. Sleep like the dead for 8 hours straight each day. Almost never dream, that I'm aware of.
Tired all the time. Don't drink, don't smoke weed or anything else. Sleep like the dead for 8 hours straight each day. Almost never dream, that I'm aware of.
Now tell me what's wrong with me.
Generally, you only remember dreams if you wake up while having them. If you're past your "dreamstate" when you wake up - you won't.
I thought my doc was on to something there too, but I slept with a monitor on and the results came out negative. He ran out of ideas soon after, and I've just been putting up with it.
Tired all the time. Don't drink, don't smoke weed or anything else. Sleep like the dead for 8 hours straight each day. Almost never dream, that I'm aware of.
Now tell me what's wrong with me.
If you get 8 hours, probly nothing sleep wise? You might just not remember the dreaming.
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Listening kind of backs up my original thinking, all the people having certain weird issues, prescription pills for stress, pills for emotional health, people doing some crazy things.
Many could just be caused by lack of sleep and a bad diet.
"I had an ex military guy tell me once he stayed up 5 days straight when he was in the military, sorry I don't remember which branch. I assume he was on some sort of upper to stay up that long?"
I went 5 days without sleep once while in the Navy. I was standing watch on the Sub as the Shutdown Reactor Operator. I was the only one qualified to do so, so until we turned the ship over to the Blue Crew (SSBN, with two crews) I was it and had to stay on watch. No drug, didn't drink coffee, just will power. And I was dead to the world for two days after that stint. I don't know how I would have been any help after the first couple of days, but I was still on watch.
"I had an ex military guy tell me once he stayed up 5 days straight when he was in the military, sorry I don't remember which branch. I assume he was on some sort of upper to stay up that long?"
I went 5 days without sleep once while in the Navy. I was standing watch on the Sub as the Shutdown Reactor Operator. I was the only one qualified to do so, so until we turned the ship over to the Blue Crew (SSBN, with two crews) I was it and had to stay on watch. No drug, didn't drink coffee, just will power. And I was dead to the world for two days after that stint. I don't know how I would have been any help after the first couple of days, but I was still on watch.
That's weird to me, maybe people are so different some actually wont get the hallucinations or fall asleep, sort of like how my grandmother smoked Winstons her whole life and never had any lung issues. I do think as a military I wouldn't want to put someone on watch for that long, or have a doctor work in surgery for 13 hours for example, or work double or triple shifts.
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Tired all the time. Don't drink, don't smoke weed or anything else. Sleep like the dead for 8 hours straight each day. Almost never dream, that I'm aware of.
Now tell me what's wrong with me.
How is the red blood cell count? You eat meat? Get enough iron?
Sleep ? It's overrated. Yes, we do need to recharge the human body.
Do I drink a lot ? I would say no. Anyone that doesn't drink, differs of my opinion. I drink every day, moderately. Some days, (rare), I drink a lot.
I have lived my life working twelve hour shifts, rotating shifts. Days, then nights, with a week off in between. On my off days, I slept whenever the hell I wanted to. One week I would be working days, A week off, then I would be working nights. What the hell is 'jet lag' ? A reason to complain ? An excuse ?
My ... routine, ... was to complete my 12 hour shift, spend an hour **** /showering/shaving/eating. Then it is party time. Work hard, play harder. All work makes cliffw a dull man. Or something like that.
The day shift, after work, might be at a bar. Maybe a movie. Maybe visiting people I have met (I work all over). The night shift ? Off hours would be museums, other local attractions, area lakes/rivers, salvage yards, what ever I could come up with to do. No alcohol involved is still a party.Click to show
Sleep is nothing more than a habit. Just like eating. If people always eat lunch, if they don't get lunch, they are hungry. The same with breakfast, the same with smoking. A habit. Which can be changed.
My sleep habit has me up at 5:00 AM every morning, without an alarm clock. Sometimes a little earlier. Drinking or not. No matter what time I go to bed. I was up at 4:00 AM today, went to work at six AM, (because I can pick my hours and was up), got home at 7:00 PM, now it's 11:10 PM. I have been drinking. A lot ? Maybe so, maybe not. You will see a post from me at 5:00 AM.
Now, I have a question for 'yall. Do you sleep a lot ?
Monday thru Friday, my Wife gets up at 6:00 AM, give or take, and she doesn't drink. She needs an alarm clock everyday, and knows where the snooze button is. On the weekends, I am an an azzhole is if I wake her up. She will get up nineish. Breakfast, , is at noon, . I don't understand her body clock.
All this should tell you, ... , sleep is a habit.
I guess I get about six hours of sleep a day. Maybe more, maybe less. I never feel tired and am always energetic. Sometimes I do get a catch up day of more hours of sleep, because my body demands it.
I BASICALLY SLEEP THE LESS THAT MY BODY WILL ALLOW ! Every hour that I am sleeping, I am missing out on life !
I have crazy dreams every night, and it seems like I never sleep without dreaming. Its intense. I also have some lucid dreaming.
The other night, I dreamt I was with some people on some snow-covered mountains that I'm guessing was like the arctic circle in Alaska. Don't remember what we were doing, but towards the end a polar bear arrived and started chasing someone else, I distracted the bear and it came after me. Spent several dream sequences eluding the bear, each would end with me escaping it by falling down a slope or something. But every time, my dreaming would "reset" it'd be in the snow again and the bear would start chasing me from a distance. In the last sequence, the bear actually got close, and in my panic I somehow realized it was a dream, and "spawned" a rifle and killed the bear. Like, I willed the dream to end that way, as far as I know I stopped dreaming there and ended up dreaming again later. Most of my dreams are like this, where I can exert some form of control.
These dreams are vivid enough I can remember them even if I dream different dreams after that and wake up later.
Some dreams I'm physically fighting someone, and can feel the adrenaline rush and my heartrate skyrocket, and sometimes wake up in a fight-or-flight response.
Most of the time I don't mind, as vivid as these negative dreams are, I also have very vivid lucid fun dreams. Like partying, traveling the world, etc. Including a lot I can't say on a family-friendly forum . Honestly these days I live more in my dreams than in real life. I used to do a lot more, now I just grind work week after week, I think the dreaming might be some form of mental rebellion against the grind.
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I have crazy dreams every night, and it seems like I never sleep without dreaming. Its intense. I also have some lucid dreaming.
The other night, I dreamt I was with some people on some snow-covered mountains that I'm guessing was like the arctic circle in Alaska. Don't remember what we were doing, but towards the end a polar bear arrived and started chasing someone else, I distracted the bear and it came after me. Spent several dream sequences eluding the bear, each would end with me escaping it by falling down a slope or something. But every time, my dreaming would "reset" it'd be in the snow again and the bear would start chasing me from a distance. In the last sequence, the bear actually got close, and in my panic I somehow realized it was a dream, and "spawned" a rifle and killed the bear. Like, I willed the dream to end that way, as far as I know I stopped dreaming there and ended up dreaming again later. Most of my dreams are like this, where I can exert some form of control.
These dreams are vivid enough I can remember them even if I dream different dreams after that and wake up later.
Some dreams I'm physically fighting someone, and can feel the adrenaline rush and my heartrate skyrocket, and sometimes wake up in a fight-or-flight response.
Most of the time I don't mind, as vivid as these negative dreams are, I also have very vivid lucid fun dreams. Like partying, traveling the world, etc. Including a lot I can't say on a family-friendly forum . Honestly these days I live more in my dreams than in real life. I used to do a lot more, now I just grind work week after week, I think the dreaming might be some form of mental rebellion against the grind.
I used to do that when I was younger. It seems to be ilnked to sleeping in too. Sometimes even now if I sleep in on a saturday or something where I don't have to get up at my usual time for work, if I can still sleep well and nothing wakes me up, that is the time I can vaguely control the dream. For me it was sort of realizing I was dreaming that queued it.
The most I ever had to stay up without sleep was 3 days, in the Army. On the 3rd day, I wasn't capable of making an intelligent decision, or any kind of rational thought. I was basically an automaton. I also noticed that when severely sleep-deprived, my metabolism goes crazy. I have to eat a lot more than usual, or else I'll crash.
IMO, going without sleep that long is dangerous. But sometimes you don't have a choice.
I have struggled with a lot of sleep issues over the years. Most of it was related to drinking, both because I wasn't getting the right amount of sleep, and because I'd be up late drinking.
After years of 4-7 hours of poor sleep every night, I was depressed, would fall asleep anywhere when given a few minutes to turn my brain off, would have sleep paralysis at least once a week, slept walked, hallucinated while awake... I went to the doctor, took a sleeping test, and experienced sleep paralysis during the test. They said nothing was wrong with me and I didn't have any issues .
When I met my current fiancee, we would spend a lot of nights talking. We talked about our days. This had the effect of decompressing after a stressful day, and I was drinking less because I was with her instead of out with my boys. The hallucinations went away first. Then the sleep paralysis. I slowly overcame my issues one by one by practicing very strict sleep schedules and lengths, and now I am happy to say I have a great sleep life.
Firstly, I'm a morning person. If I wake up too late, I will be tired throughout the day. I now wake up at the same time on weekdays and mornings.
Secondly, my body needs an average of 9 hours of sleep a night over long periods of time to stay healthy. Yes, it's a lot. Yes, I'm a diva. But I'm not depressed anymore so what works for me... works for me. I can function on less without a problem on a daily basis, but if I'm a month in of averaging 7 hours a night, the depression starts kicking in. I take care of myself and sleep earlier to get more rest.
Thirdly, I quit drinking. Haven't had a drop in a year now, and it helped a lot.
Fourthly, mentally complete every time on my to-do list for the day. If I can't complete it that day, don't just put it to the next day, mentally figure out exactly what time you can do it and where it fits in the schedule, so you can check it off today. I go to bed with a completed checklist (even if I didn't complete my checklist) so I can turn off my brain when I hit the bed.
Fifthly, no lucid dreaming. I can control my dreams if I want to. It's fun. But it creates a restless sleep, because my brain is active at night and active again when I wake up. Now I just go along for the ride.
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Originally posted by Stubby79:
Tired all the time. Don't drink, don't smoke weed or anything else. Sleep like the dead for 8 hours straight each day. Almost never dream, that I'm aware of.
Now tell me what's wrong with me.
Could be time of day. I am a morning person and need to sleep early, wake early to be good. Also, don't use your cell phone in bed, don't have the TV on, keep the A/C low so you aren't too hot.... Could be any number of things or a combination of all of them. Could also be sleep apnea that they just didn't see that one night they did the test.
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Originally posted by cliffw:
Sleep ? It's overrated. Yes, we do need to recharge the human body.
Different bodies need different amounts of sleep. Studies show driving tired is the same to and sometimes worse than driving drunk. The Navy is dealing with this on their subs because of their shitty shifts.
I can always tell when my mind wasnt resting while I'm sleeping.
I wake up and the pillows have been thrown across the room, blankets on the floor, and I literally jump out of bed in a state of pure rage. Levitate would be a better word.
It happened a LOT when I was in the repair industry, I had a few years respite, but now that I am back in the middle of one helva fight with my siblings its started again.
, is at noon, 
. Honestly these days I live more in my dreams than in real life. I used to do a lot more, now I just grind work week after week, I think the dreaming might be some form of mental rebellion against the grind.
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