I respectfully disagree. They've nuked their test site to the point that the ground is unstable. One more test will probably release Godzilla, or cause the whole peninsula to sink into the Pacific, or something.
I'd like to believe that they realize they can't out bully Trump and the others, and don't want hell rained down upon them. The next best thing for Kim Jong Dingbat to do is to play nice, and act like it's his idea, in order to save face with his people.
Just one man's take on it. And it certainly doesn't solve everything. But as long as they're done with the outwardly crazy, I'll take it.
I respectfully disagree. They've nuked their test site to the point that the ground is unstable. One more test will probably release Godzilla, or cause the whole peninsula to sink into the Pacific, or something.
I'd like to believe that they realize they can't out bully Trump and the others, and don't want hell rained down upon them. The next best thing for Kim Jong Dingbat to do is to play nice, and act like it's his idea, in order to save face with his people.
Just one man's take on it. And it certainly doesn't solve everything. But as long as they're done with the outwardly crazy, I'll take it.
This and all the above could be true but.........
North Korea has consistently lied, cheated and provoked just to get sanctions reduced and then go back to their crap. I think anyone taking them at their word is a fool. If it can't be verified, it ain't true. We really don't know what they have or, if they even developed squat. For all we know, the Chineese, the Rusisians, Iran or another nuclear state may have given them some old nucs just to distract us. Yeah, they may have built a nuc but, we really don't know.
I wouldn't lift a single sanction unless they are nuc free and we are able to verify it.
Rams
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I respectfully disagree. They've nuked their test site to the point that the ground is unstable. One more test will probably release Godzilla, or cause the whole peninsula to sink into the Pacific, or something.
I'd like to believe that they realize they can't out bully Trump and the others, and don't want hell rained down upon them. The next best thing for Kim Jong Dingbat to do is to play nice, and act like it's his idea, in order to save face with his people.
Just one man's take on it. And it certainly doesn't solve everything. But as long as they're done with the outwardly crazy, I'll take it.
I think you are right, at least I hope you are right.
I think Kim's capitulation was based on three things:
The DPRK could effectively operate like China does. They essentially have a single ruler, and a ruling party. China is no different, yet they are successful. DPRK could emulate this model, KJI would remain in power, uncontested, and things could go really well for the in the interim. It's sort of a win for everyone, since this current model doesn't seem to be working for them.
That said, they lie constantly, so this is probably just a ploy. But on the off chance it could be legitimate, it would let him off the hook by him pretending it was his idea.
"Why the US’s [President Clinton] 1994 deal with North Korea failed – and what Trump can learn from it" Maria Ryan, for The Conversation(.com); July 19, 2017.
Two or three book-sized pages of text that describes what the author presents as failures and shortcomings on the U.S. side of the equation, that contributed to the eventual unraveling of the 1994 Agreed Framework that was signed by the Clinton administration, and by North Korea.
I offer this only as a quick way for anyone who wants to review some of the basic mereology of the 1994 Agreed Framework. "In all of this confusion, I hardly remembered any of the top line features of the 1994 Agreed Framework, myself."
Originally posted by Doug85GT: We might see the reunification of Korea in the near future.
Doug, I had you pegged at smart.
Dennis Rodman's boy toy and his regime won't let foreigners in or citizens out. Talk about border control ... years and years of hard labor under cruel conditions.
Dennis Rodman's boy toy will not allow his citizens access to the internet / free media.
Dennis Rodman's boy toy is but just a ruthless sheep herder.
"Why the US’s [President Clinton] 1994 deal with North Korea failed – and what Trump can learn from it" Maria Ryan, for The Conversation(.com); July 19, 2017.
It's always so cute when mentally ill Ronald finds another one of his obscure children in academia with a nearly year old OPINION column...
especially ones in the UK that presume to lecture the United States and the Trump administration.
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....They've nuked their test site to the point that the ground is unstable. One more test will probably release Godzilla, or cause the whole peninsula to sink into the Pacific, or something.
At least this much appears to be true. I read, shortly after posting this, that the test site is acting like a chimney, and funneling radioactivity up into the air. (I read it on the interwebs. It's gotta be true.) One more detonation will likely be devastating to the integrity of the surrounding area, if it isn't already too far compromised. As for the rest of it? I still would like to believe that we've called his bluff. If he realizes that, if he cools his heels and doesn't screw up, we don't really want to bomb him back into the stone age, he might be more willing to play nice with others. (They're also broke, and choked for resources.) Of course, as far as his people are concerned, it was still his ideas. He still comes out smelling like a rose.
It's always revealing when (predictably) the same Internet moron conveniently ignores an important part of my message, in his relentless but pathetic attempts to distort the readers' perceptions about what I have and have not said.
At the end of my previous message, I offered an analysis of the 1994 Framework Agreement from the Hoover Institution.
Given the Internet moron's ideological pretensions, the Hoover Institution would seem to be on his short list of Moron Approved organizations.
IF he actually had any familiarity with it. IF he were not simply at his perpetual game of trying to distort reader's perceptions about my forum messages.
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Please be sure of the definition of the descriptive terms of other Forum members.....
"moron [mawr-on, mohr-] noun Informal.a person who is notably stupid or lacking in good judgment: I wonder why they elected that narrow-minded moron to Congress.
Psychology.(no longer in technical use; now considered offensive) a person of borderline intelligence in a former and discarded classification of mental retardation, having an intelligence quotient of 50 to 69."
