I'm not sure what that last one from jmbishop was about. But just to be on the safe said, I will say, you can BOTH kiss Al Gore's ass, as far I'm concerned.
What the hell does Al Gore have to do with this?
DAMN! the feeble grip Ronald had on reality is obviously gone now.
I never mentioned Al Gore. Where the hell did that come from?
If Ronald had told me to kiss his ass I might understand that, but of course I would then have to ask him to mark off a spot since that is basically all of him.
I hadn't planned on posting much in response to Ronald here but it appears I've stirred him up more than intended. I don't care for debate much unless they are honest debates, that's something you can't squeeze out of Ronald. When caught in a lie he just goes all out. If Ronald really is interested in honestly debating the things he posts, he's going to have to concede.
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I'm so sick of democrats blaming Russia for all their failings. They failed on their own. Anyway we shouldn't be demonizing Russia all the time. I'm not a fan of Russia and many of Russias faults exist in our country too but we should be aware by now that we can't change the world. I'm 100% for more dialogue with Russia. Transparent above board dialogue.
You can never truly have dialog with a dictatorship, and currently, Russia really doesn't constitute as a Democracy. This is what... the second time that Vladimir Putin has been president? I think Medvedev was only there for a few years to get around the rules that existed at the time.
The thing is... Putin is not like Gorbachev. Gorbachev was raised Communist, but appreciated the value of American freedoms. He worked with Reagan because he felt truly that Russia deserved to be managed the same way as the United States. Putin is not of the same opinion as Gorbachev. Putin believes the worst thing that ever happened to Russia, was the dissolution of the USSR. He is a former KGB agent and will forever harbor resentment towards the United States for it.
We can have cooperation on things we both equally hate (radical Islam... though one supports Sunni and the other supports Shiites), and truthfully, Russia wants a strong America (at least for the time being) because it counters China's growing strength. Also, Trump is not really a fan of the European Union, and Vladimir supports anything that weakens the strength of the EU.
...but Russia truly, at this point... is not and never will be an ally as long as Vladimir Putin is in charge. For the most part, their culture has largely different views than would ever be compatible with our society.
Originally posted by rinselberg: I have consulted the Posting Guidelines, and the very first guideline is Keep It Civilized. Mr Bishop has been on the wrong side of that guideline recently, and the randye has completely shredded that guideline on every single occasion within recent memory when he has turned his conversation around something that I have posted, or something he has in his mind about me.
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Originally posted by randye: Now THAT is seriously hypocritical and twisted CRAP coming from the very same jackwipe that STARTED AN ENTIRE THREAD to attack a forum member and claim it as a "beatdown".
I'm glad you brought that up. I intend that to be a One Off. I found it useful to express myself that way, as an intermediate destination or a waypoint on the recent journey that has brought me from where I was about a week ago, to where I am today, in terms of my relationship with this online discussion forum.
Now, for another test of the Swear Filter. A good, solid stress test. Ready?
I have abso****inglutely zero interest or concern about anything that washes up here from randye, under any circumstances. I don't care if it is something that randye is bringing up from any earlier moment in his life, or at any present moment in his life. I have Abso****ingLutely Zero Interest in anything that emanates here from randye.
This message goes onto the end of Page Two. I do not know what comes before it on Page Two. I do not need to see any of it; at least at the present time.
If anyone comes into this thread and has any particular interest in what rinselberg thinks, or what rinselberg is about, I suggest going back to Page One, picking up on this post from Tony Kania, and then the one that came next from rinselberg (me), and then following this "discussion" from that point forwards.
HAGO.
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He gets called out for his compulsive LYING and lets loose with a massive load of butt hurt rage.
Now we know for certain that salty tears were streaming down his cheeks as he posted.
Couldn't have put a finer point on Ronald NOT being an intellectual if anyone else had tried.
Classic.
He could have simply "Manned up" and admitted that he is a liar and moved on, but that's a leftist for ya.
Sure didn't take long for that mask to slip completely off.
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If anyone comes into this thread and has any particular interest in what rinselberg thinks, or what rinselberg is about,
That's both hilarious and sad. Ronald's psychotic ego is so big now he even refers to himself in the third person and assumes that everyone must be breathlessly awaiting his next word.
"Ego is the anesthetic that dulls the pain of stupidity"
Ronald must be one very numb SOB.
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I sure wish it was a bad thing when the threads were started about me for disagreeing with the O/T hive mind!
Jeez. We just about get done dealing with one leftist liar and another one shows up.
With your own deceitful history around here it would have been good judgment for you to just lay low on this one, but then the idea of good judgment and being a leftist are pretty much incompatible.
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I sure wish it was a bad thing when the threads were started about me for disagreeing with the O/T hive mind! Click to show
You have no weight here. Nothing to bring to the table. Your previous postings have set the tone for any conversation forward.
I do wish that the fine member here that sent me shat realized that I also have more information than just their address. A screen name does not block all.
Edit: TRIGGER WARNING!!! Hillary Clinton is brought up in my post. I do not want to offend any of our more left leaning members. If your nutz have been clipped by your government, then proceed with the utmost of caution. A fair warning is given.
Unknown author...
Simply explained: Here’s What Happened With ABC’s Retracted , and completely false, Story about Trump and Russia.
The original story claimed Trump ordered Flynn to talk and attempt to make a deal with the Russian government as just a presidential candidate and not as the President. That would have been very illegal.
What really happened, and why they had to retract their story, was that Trump had Flynn talk to Russia about teaming up on ISIS in Syria AFTER he was President. Which is not only legal it’s extremely normal. It was one of Trumps first acts of foreign policy after becoming President.
So, everything that made that story a story (Trump making deals with Russia before he had the authority to as just a candidate) was false.
Which means it’s what we already knew. Trump worked with Russia on doing something about ISIS in Syria together. That’s it. That’s ABC’s story after the retraction. Which is literally nothing and old news to boot. YUGE and embarrassing screw up by ABC and everyone who ran with it.
Now why was Flynn arrested? That’s as stupid as the screw up ABC just made. Flynn was arrested for lying to the FBI about talking to Russia after Trump became president. Which was really ****ing stupid because there was no reason to lie about it, but he did and that is illegal (lying to the FBI), so they charged him.
There you go. That’s the whole story and you better believe Trump is going to have a hay day with his biggest example of fake news yet that cost billions in stock market losses before the real story git out and the market corrected.
You’re welcome Click to show
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President Donald Trump
So General Flynn lies to the FBI and his life is destroyed, while Crooked Hillary Clinton, on that now famous FBI holiday “interrogation” with no swearing in and no recording, lies many times…and nothing happens to her? Rigged system, or just a double standard?
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 3, 2017
Many people in our Country are asking what the “Justice” Department is going to do about the fact that totally Crooked Hillary, AFTER receiving a subpoena from the United States Congress, deleted and “acid washed” 33,000 Emails? No justice!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 3, 2017
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Edit: TRIGGER WARNING!!! Hillary Clinton is brought up in my post. I do not want to offend any of our more left leaning members. If your nutz have been clipped by your government, then proceed with the utmost of caution. A fair warning is given.
Unknown author...
Simply explained: Here’s What Happened With ABC’s Retracted , and completely false, Story about Trump and Russia.
The original story claimed Trump ordered Flynn to talk and attempt to make a deal with the Russian government as just a presidential candidate and not as the President. That would have been very illegal.
What really happened, and why they had to retract their story, was that Trump had Flynn talk to Russia about teaming up on ISIS in Syria AFTER he was President. Which is not only legal it’s extremely normal. It was one of Trumps first acts of foreign policy after becoming President.
So, everything that made that story a story (Trump making deals with Russia before he had the authority to as just a candidate) was false.
Which means it’s what we already knew. Trump worked with Russia on doing something about ISIS in Syria together. That’s it. That’s ABC’s story after the retraction. Which is literally nothing and old news to boot. YUGE and embarrassing screw up by ABC and everyone who ran with it.
Now why was Flynn arrested? That’s as stupid as the screw up ABC just made. Flynn was arrested for lying to the FBI about talking to Russia after Trump became president. Which was really ****ing stupid because there was no reason to lie about it, but he did and that is illegal (lying to the FBI), so they charged him.
There you go. That’s the whole story and you better believe Trump is going to have a hay day with his biggest example of fake news yet that cost billions in stock market losses before the real story git out and the market corrected.
You’re welcome Click to show
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President Donald Trump
So General Flynn lies to the FBI and his life is destroyed, while Crooked Hillary Clinton, on that now famous FBI holiday “interrogation” with no swearing in and no recording, lies many times…and nothing happens to her? Rigged system, or just a double standard?
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 3, 2017
Many people in our Country are asking what the “Justice” Department is going to do about the fact that totally Crooked Hillary, AFTER receiving a subpoena from the United States Congress, deleted and “acid washed” 33,000 Emails? No justice!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 3, 2017
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[Ronald mode][Triggered]What do emails have to do with anything, you people have a hard on for emails. Did you read that on Breitbart?[/triggered][/ronald mode]
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Liberals have a meltdown about anything thats not Clinton or Obama. Theyre all like little 5th graders that throw a tantrum about anything that dont give them something...preferably for free. Clinton and Obama both rank right there with Saddam, Hitler, and Kimmy. They should be thrown down the deepest hole found on the planet and buried there. Hopefully all the whining liberals will all jump in with them.
[Triggeted]What do emails have to do with anything, you people have a hard on for emails. Did you read that on Breitbart?[/triggered]
No, I did not read this on Breitbart. I have said before and still attest to the fact that I have only read Breitbart articles after a forum member posts it here and here alone. I have zero browser history of ever going to the Breitbart site with out a link from this forum.
President Trump tweeted that this morning. I only posted the tweets. I did not mean to trigger anyone.
Here's an update on that astonishing claim by an unnamed but senior Trump administration staffer, that it was really the Obama administration themselves that wanted to undermine the diplomatic sanctions that they had just imposed on Russia, by authorizing Mike Flynn's off-the-record contacts with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak during the transition period, when Donald Trump was the President-elect and Barack Obama was the President of the United States.
While Mr. Trump has disparaged as a Democratic “hoax” any claims that he or his aides had unusual interactions with Russian officials, the records suggest that the Trump transition team was intensely focused on improving relations with Moscow and was willing to intervene to pursue that goal despite a request from the Obama administration that it not sow confusion about official American policy before Mr. Trump took office.
On Dec. 29, a transition adviser to Mr. Trump, K. T. McFarland, wrote in an email to a colleague that sanctions announced hours before by the Obama administration in retaliation for Russian election meddling were aimed at discrediting Mr. Trump’s victory. The sanctions could also make it much harder for Mr. Trump to ease tensions with Russia, “which has just thrown the U.S.A. election to him,” she wrote in the emails obtained by The Times.
It is not clear whether Ms. McFarland was saying she believed that the election had in fact been thrown. A White House lawyer said on Friday that she meant only that the Democrats were portraying it that way.
But it is evident from the emails — which were obtained from someone who had access to transition team communications — that after learning that President Barack Obama would expel 35 Russian diplomats, the Trump team quickly strategized about how to reassure Russia. The Trump advisers feared that a cycle of retaliation between the United States and Russia would keep the spotlight on Moscow’s election meddling, tarnishing Mr. Trump’s victory and potentially hobbling his presidency from the start.
As part of the outreach, Ms. McFarland wrote, Mr. Flynn would be speaking with the Russian ambassador, Mr. Kislyak, hours after Mr. Obama’s sanctions were announced.
“Key will be Russia’s response over the next few days,” Ms. McFarland wrote in an email to another transition official, Thomas P. Bossert, now the president’s homeland security adviser.
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Some legal experts have speculated that the contacts during the transition between Trump aides and foreign officials might violate the Logan Act, a law that prohibits private American citizens from working with a foreign government against the United States. But the act has not been used to prosecute anyone since the 19th century. [Trump White House Special Counsel Ty Cobb] said the law “certainly does not apply” to a presidential transition team.
That was some copy and paste from the New York Times.
Emails Contradict Trump Administration's claims That Flynn Acted Independently on Russia Michael S. Schmidt, Sharon LaFraniere and Scott Shane, for the New York Times; December 2, 2017.
After just 24 days as President Trump's first National Security Advisor, Mike Flynn was forced to resign on February 13. K.T. McFarland was nominated as U.S. Ambassador to Singapore--an appointment that has still not been confirmed, as required, by the Senate. Mother Jones Washington Bureau chief David Corn's reaction to this news was "priceless."
That was a great first half. Now go out there and give me two more quarters of Absolutely Zero Interest in randye. ~ "Coach" rinselberg's locker room pep talk on Sunday.
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Here's an update on that astonishing claim by an unnamed but senior Trump administration staffer, that it was really the Obama administration themselves that wanted to undermine the diplomatic sanctions that they had just imposed on Russia, by authorizing Mike Flynn's off-the-record contacts with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak during the transition period, when Donald Trump was the President-elect and Barack Obama was the President of the United States.
While Mr. Trump has disparaged as a Democratic “hoax” any claims that he or his aides had unusual interactions with Russian officials, the records suggest that the Trump transition team was intensely focused on improving relations with Moscow and was willing to intervene to pursue that goal despite a request from the Obama administration that it not sow confusion about official American policy before Mr. Trump took office.
On Dec. 29, a transition adviser to Mr. Trump, K. T. McFarland, wrote in an email to a colleague that sanctions announced hours before by the Obama administration in retaliation for Russian election meddling were aimed at discrediting Mr. Trump’s victory. The sanctions could also make it much harder for Mr. Trump to ease tensions with Russia, “which has just thrown the U.S.A. election to him,” she wrote in the emails obtained by The Times.
It is not clear whether Ms. McFarland was saying she believed that the election had in fact been thrown. A White House lawyer said on Friday that she meant only that the Democrats were portraying it that way.
But it is evident from the emails — which were obtained from someone who had access to transition team communications — that after learning that President Barack Obama would expel 35 Russian diplomats, the Trump team quickly strategized about how to reassure Russia. The Trump advisers feared that a cycle of retaliation between the United States and Russia would keep the spotlight on Moscow’s election meddling, tarnishing Mr. Trump’s victory and potentially hobbling his presidency from the start.
As part of the outreach, Ms. McFarland wrote, Mr. Flynn would be speaking with the Russian ambassador, Mr. Kislyak, hours after Mr. Obama’s sanctions were announced.
“Key will be Russia’s response over the next few days,” Ms. McFarland wrote in an email to another transition official, Thomas P. Bossert, now the president’s homeland security adviser.
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Some legal experts have speculated that the contacts during the transition between Trump aides and foreign officials might violate the Logan Act, a law that prohibits private American citizens from working with a foreign government against the United States. But the act has not been used to prosecute anyone since the 19th century. [Trump White House Special Counsel Ty Cobb] said the law “certainly does not apply” to a presidential transition team.
That was some copy and paste from the New York Times.
Emails Contradict Trump Administration's claims That Flynn Acted Independently on Russia Michael S. Schmidt, Sharon LaFraniere and Scott Shane, for the New York Times; December 2, 2017.
After just 24 days as President Trump's first National Security Advisor, Mike Flynn was forced to resign on February 13. K.T. McFarland was nominated as U.S. Ambassador to Singapore--an appointment that has still not been confirmed, as required, by the Senate. Mother Jones Washington Bureau chief David Corn's reaction to this news was "priceless." Click to show
That was a great first half. Now go out there and give me two more quarters of Absolutely Zero Interest in randye. ~ "Coach" rinselberg's locker room pep talk on Sunday.
One, you are not a victim of others. You are a victim of yourself.
Two, here you are still being an troll.
Three, all of that copy and paste, and your synopsis is a hit on a forum member.
I wonder if other folks have a clue about your online lies in other areas of the net? You really have written a lot of falsies throughout your life. It is not hard to do a little research on a fellow. A few clicks, and the next thing you know you have poop wind up at your families home. It really is that easy.
I don't know why you are piqued with me, Mr Kania. Is it just because I came in right after you on Page One and put so much visual emphasis on the word "claims" ?
If that is what started this for you, then I apologize. I did not realize that it was going to rub you the wrong way. If I had, I would have used a different approach, as far as packaging or presenting what it was that I wanted to say.
I do not have your home address. I have never tried to find your home address by searching online. I did not have anything sent to your home address.
Are you threatening me here? Threatening to look up my home address and then try to have something unpleasant shipped to my front door?
Are you sure that you have taken the time to read my posts on this thread, going all the way back to Page One?
Terrible that I have to write a disclaimer, but here we go...
I am in no way, shape, or form threatening rinselberg or any other forum member. I am not even threatening people in other forums. Heck, I will go so far as to say that I am not threatening anyone anywhere.
For fox sake dude, you are one of the most insecure people on this forum.
Negged ya again yesterday BTW. We know how this works.
Originally posted by Tony Kania: One, you are not a victim of others. You are a victim of yourself.
Two, here you are still being an troll.
Three, all of that copy and paste, and your synopsis is a hit on a forum member.
I wonder if other folks have a clue about your online lies in other areas of the net? You really have written a lot of falsies throughout your life. It is not hard to do a little research on a fellow. A few clicks, and the next thing you know you have poop wind up at your families home. It really is that easy.
Whatever are you talking about, Mr Kania ?
Why don't you copy one of these lies that you are accusing me of, from some other area of the Internet, and paste it up here? Why don't you put up a link?
Not meaning to be rude (just to be clear and plainly understood), why don't you Put Up Or Shut Up about what you are talking about here, when you refer to "other areas of the net."
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Do not post another member's personal information without his/her consent! So you got really angry with another member and feel you should post his personal information like name, address, telephone number or other private info without his consent. Don't. This is cause for an immediate, nonnegotiable ban from PFF.
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That was a great first half. Now go out there and give me two more quarters of Absolutely Zero Interest in randye. ~ "Coach" rinselberg's locker room pep talk on Sunday.
Wow. For a jackwipe that claimed to have no interest in me he sure can't seem to stop mentioning me.
I guess he LIED AGAIN. Not a big surprise.
Ronald is like a woodpecker with a rubber beak. Completely useless but funny as hell to watch.
...and still not an intellectual.
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I don't remember Tony making threats to post any personal info but I do remember Ronald requesting it.
Yes, Indeed he did.
Since Ronald is obviously "combing the statutes" apparently looking for any possible reason to indict, I think it prudent to just leave this nugget here for the future:
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Originally posted by rinselberg:
Whatever are you talking about, Mr Kania ?
Why don't you copy one of these lies that you are accusing me of, from some other area of the Internet, and paste it up here? Why don't you put up a link?
Not meaning to be rude (just to be clear and plainly understood), why don't you Put Up Or Shut Up about what you are talking about here, when you refer to "other areas of the net."
Additionally, it is also curious how Ronald feels free to use Tony's last name but screams foul when his own last name Inselberg is mentioned even though it's plainly right there in his username, the SAME as Tony's
Note that in another thread he had publically admitted that *Ronald* was one name on his birth certificate.
This is another example of the egotistical contempt Ronald has for the intelligence of members of this forum.
He wants to pretend that, knowing his first name Ronald, the members here are too stupid to derive Inselbeg from *rinselberg*.
Sorry Ronald, but you don't have a case.
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MSNBC's Rachel Maddow examines Deutsche Bank's recent history with Russian money laundering, Donald Trump's over $100 million in loans from Deutsche Bank, and the news that Robert Mueller's Trump-Russia investigation is taking a closer look at Deutsche Bank's financial records.
Whistleblower: Flynn told ex-partner Russia sanctions would be ripped up Mike Memoli, for NBC News; December 6, 2017.
WASHINGTON — Donald Trump was just 11 minutes into his presidency when his choice for national security adviser, Michael Flynn, texted a former business partner to say an ambitious U.S. collaboration with Russia to build nuclear reactors in the Middle East was "good to go," according to a new whistleblower account.
As Trump delivered his inaugural address, says the unnamed whistleblower, Flynn directed Alex Copson, managing director of ACU Strategic Partners, to inform their business partners "to put things in place."
The whistleblower also says that Flynn assured Copson that U.S. sanctions on Russia that could block the nuclear project would be "ripped up" once Trump was inside the White House.
The account from the anonymous whistleblower is detailed in a new letter from the top Democrat on the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee [Elijah Cummings, from Maryland] to his Republican counterpart, asking that the panel [Committee] subpoena Flynn, Copson, the White House and others involved in the alleged plan.
FBI Director Christopher Wray has just told members of the House Judiciary Committee that the FBI is negotiating with the House and Senate Intelligence Committees about whether the FBI will provide these committees with information about FISA (Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act) applications that the FBI asked for as part of Department of Justice Special Counsel Robert Mueller's so called "Russia-gate" investigation.
This is the first official confirmation that there have been any FBI requests to set up FISA Court approved wiretaps or eavesdropping on anyone or anyone's communications in the course of the Russia-gate investigation. Did this happen before or after former FBI Director James Comey was fired by President Trump--or before there was "President Trump"..? Whobody knows.
An update from the Twitter account of NBC News Investigative Reporter Ken Dilanian.
FISA... it's everywhere you want to be.
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FBI Director Christopher Wray has just told members of the House Judiciary Committee that the FBI is negotiating with the House and Senate Intelligence Committees about whether the FBI will provide these committees with information about FISA (Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act) applications that the FBI asked for as part of Department of Justice Special Counsel Robert Mueller's so called "Russia-gate" investigation.
This is the first official confirmation that there have been any FBI requests to set up FISA Court approved wiretaps or eavesdropping on anyone or anyone's communications in the course of the Russia-gate investigation. Did this happen before or after former FBI Director James Comey was fired by President Trump--or before there was "President Trump"..? Whobody knows. An update from the Twitter account of NBC News Investigative Reporter Ken Dilanian.
FISA... it's everywhere you want to be.
So now we know for sure that the Obama administration surveilled people in the Trump campaign? And if it turns out the reason to do this was because of this crazy dossier made up and paid for by the Democrats and Hillary's campaign, it then becomes illegal for them to do so. So crooked Hillary along with Obama found a way to quasi-legally wiretap Trump and his campaign. How nice that we have devolved into a 3rd world dictatorship.
If it comes down to any public explanation(s) from anyone representing the Obama administration, expect to see these two Bullets or Talking Points.
FBI eavesdropping or wiretaps using the FISA court was an action that originated within the DOJ, without any input on it from President Obama.
FBI eavesdropping or wiretaps using the FISA court was an action that originated within the DOJ, and the decision was based on other investigative leads and not just because of the Dossier.
What anyone think this actually means... "You Make the Call."
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Funny how administration officials asked for hundreds of unmaskings during the last year of this administration. Even hundreds by the UN ambassador Samantha Powers. What would she have to do with anything doing with unmasking requests?
Originally posted by rinselberg: If it comes down to any public explanation(s) from anyone representing the Obama administration, expect to see these two Bullets or Talking Points.
FBI eavesdropping or wiretaps using the FISA court was an action that originated within the DOJ, without any input on it from President Obama.
FBI eavesdropping or wiretaps using the FISA court was an action that originated within the DOJ, and the decision was based on other investigative leads and not just because of the Dossier.
What anyone think this actually means... "You Make the Call."
The "call" on this one is obvious.
Thomas Fuller wrote in his Church History of Britain: ‘Always set a thief to catch a thief..."
In that same vein we shall have to trust to Ronald's expertise as LIAR to predict lies.
