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Guantanamo judge sentences Marine general to 21 days confinement for refusing to,,,,, by blackrams
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Guantanamo judge sentences Marine general to 21 days confinement for refusing to follow orders

https://www.msn.com/en-us/n...kt5R&ocid=spartanntp

GUANTANAMO BAY NAVAL BASE, Cuba - The USS Cole case judge Wednesday found the Marine general in charge of war court defense teams guilty of contempt for refusing to follow his orders and sentenced him to 21 days confinement and to pay a $1,000 fine.
Air Force Col. Vance Spath also declared "null and void" a decision by Marine Brig. Gen. John Baker, 50, to release three civilian defense attorneys from the case, and ordered them to appear before him in person here at Guantanamo or by video feed next week.

At issue was Baker's authority to excuse civilian, Pentagon-paid attorneys Rick Kammen, Rosa Eliades and Mary Spears from the case of because of a secret ethics conflict involving attorney-client privilege. Also, the general refused a day earlier to either testify in front of Spath or return the three lawyers to the case.


In court Wednesday, Baker attempted to protest that the war court meant to try alleged terrorists who are not U.S. citizens had no jurisdiction over him. Spath refused to let him speak and ordered him to sit down.

Spath said Baker, the chief defense counsel for military commissions, was out of line in invoking a privilege in refusing to testify about both the decision to release and the absence of the three attorneys at the court. Spath ordered the three to come to Guantanamo this week; and they refused.

Privilege, the Air Force judge declared, is a judge's domain and that a judge has the authority to weigh and review privilege.
Without that, he said, there would be "havoc in any system of justice."

The judge said in court that a senior official at the Pentagon, Convening Authority Harvey Rishikof, would review his contempt finding and sentence. Meantime, however, he ordered court bailiffs to arrange for the general to be confined to his quarters - a room in a trailer at Camp Justice, behind the courtroom - until Rishikof acted or found a different place. Rishikof had approved the site provisionally, Spath said, and was permitting Baker to have internet and phone communications at his quarters.


Whoa!!!! Not sure I'd want to be in the middle of this dog fight...................

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Isn't it strange that after a bombing, everyone blames the bomber, his upbringing, his environment, his culture, his mental state but …
after a shooting, the problem is the gun....
Open your frigg'n minds, think about all the other tools that can be made into WMDs.

I sincerely hope that life is never discovered on another planet because, sure as hell Progressives and Socialists will want to send them money.

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Evidently the judge has not spent much time on GTMO. The whole place is 'confinment'.
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Each court does have a jurisdiction. For example, the 9th Circuit court cannot make a ruling for the D.C. district court. If this judge overstepped his bounds, the general has every right to ignore him. I'll bet the general consulted with his own attorneys before he made his decisions.

It will be interesting to see who comes out on top. I think the general has more to lose in the exchange than the judge.
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Originally posted by Doug85GT:

Each court does have a jurisdiction. For example, the 9th Circuit court cannot make a ruling for the D.C. district court. If this judge overstepped his bounds, the general has every right to ignore him. I'll bet the general consulted with his own attorneys before he made his decisions.

It will be interesting to see who comes out on top. I think the general has more to lose in the exchange than the judge.


Not being a legal authority on anything, I'm thinking there must be something already determined on this. Any military lawyers around here?

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Isn't it strange that after a bombing, everyone blames the bomber, his upbringing, his environment, his culture, his mental state but …
after a shooting, the problem is the gun....
Open your frigg'n minds, think about all the other tools that can be made into WMDs.

I sincerely hope that life is never discovered on another planet because, sure as hell Progressives and Socialists will want to send them money.

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I'm sure this will show up on a negative counseling.

I kid, I kid.
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