Agreed, I believe I read that he was contracting with the Russians for something but, not doing it as required or something like that. That was before he was appointed to the Trump Cabinet though. Regardless, if he's guilty of some crime then so be it.
------------------ Ron
Isn't it strange that after a bombing, everyone blames the bomber, his upbringing, his environment, his culture, his mental state but … after a shooting, the problem is the gun.... Open your frigg'n minds, think about all the other tools that can be made into WMDs.
I sincerely hope that life is never discovered on another planet because, sure as hell Progressives and Socialists will want to send them money.
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What bothers me about all of this, whether it be Trump's presidency or had it been Hillary's, is the amount of leaking that goes on. Even top secret information manages to get leaked out within twenty-four hours. There are certain things that, for the purpose of national security, need to remain secret. What will happen if someone leaks out any plans to deal with North Korea? Russia? Iran? Do they not think that these countries will be watching our news and react appropriately? If these leakers think that they're doing a great service to this country by attempting to discredit the current administration, they're sadly mistaken. If they're found, they should be both dismissed from their jobs and imprisoned. But I guess as long as one of the cable news networks gets their exclusive story, that's all that really matters.
I'll add Manafort, Roger Stone, Carter Page, and Donald Trump Jr as other front runners. Maybe Kushner and Flynn's son, but I think Flynn and Manfort will be the primaries in this 1st round.
Ya know, the more I think about it, the more I believe I have absolutely no idea as to who the accused may be. I'm guilty of forming an opinion based on news reports from a press and media that I really don't trust.
Yeah, I'll agree. Mind passing the popcorn?
------------------ Ron
Isn't it strange that after a bombing, everyone blames the bomber, his upbringing, his environment, his culture, his mental state but … after a shooting, the problem is the gun.... Open your frigg'n minds, think about all the other tools that can be made into WMDs.
I sincerely hope that life is never discovered on another planet because, sure as hell Progressives and Socialists will want to send them money.
Someone has done things, they lay out the evidence, and walk us through all the illegal stuffs... But they didn't have intent to do illegal things, so it's all good.
Someone else Hasn't done anything (that is obvious to anyone based in reality) and they will dig until they find something.
NBC just announced Paul Manafort and some aide are headed to the court house to turn themselves in.
Edited: Rick Gates, whoever that is.
Edit II: NBC is reporting that the charges are concerning TAX related issues. The indictment has not been released as yet so, again we're relying on unnamed sources. Nothing mentioned about collusion. ------------------ Ron
Isn't it strange that after a bombing, everyone blames the bomber, his upbringing, his environment, his culture, his mental state but … after a shooting, the problem is the gun.... Open your frigg'n minds, think about all the other tools that can be made into WMDs.
I sincerely hope that life is never discovered on another planet because, sure as hell Progressives and Socialists will want to send them money.
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NBC just announced Paul Manafort and some aide are headed to the court house to turn themselves in.
Edited: Rick Gates, whoever that is.
Edit II: NBC is reporting that the charges are concerning TAX related issues. The indictment has not been released as yet so, again we're relying on unnamed sources. Nothing mentioned about collusion.
Like I said yesterday, it deals with tax evasion, money laundering and (I forgot to mention) FBAR,
The "Conspiracy against the United States" charge arises from Manafort and Gates allegedly lying to DOJ, (FBI), and the IRS, and allegedly "obstructing".
As I also said yesterday, the complaint alleges ZERO connection between the Trump campaign and the charges against Manafort and Gates.
The leftist innuendo, speculation and outright lying festival has already commenced though. Did you expect anything else?
NOTE: There is a big problem with how this particular indictment came to be and that will likely imperil prosecution of the case.
That is partly why you saw what amounted to a "pro forma" surrender, arrest, and bonding happen so swiftly today.
Once again, I'm only *guessing*
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Paul Manafort, Rick Gates and one more: George Papadopoulos.
"WIRED" has a column on it.
MONDAY MORNING, JUST hours after pundits had settled into dissecting what everyone assumed to be the day’s big revelation—the indictments of former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort and his former business associate Rick Gates on a slew of charges related to an alleged money-laundering scheme—came an even bigger revelation: George Papadopoulos, foreign policy adviser to the Trump campaign, had struck a plea agreement with Robert Mueller’s special counsel office.
Although they're going to do their best to get them to sing.
"Sing" what?
Look. This is really pretty simple.
If the special investigators had ANY solid evidence of linkage of what these guys are charged with to President Trump himself or functionally to his political campaign, you would NOT be seeing these arrests NOW.
They would have waited to make their case(s) on a broader scale, against more "substantial" suspects,...... if they had any.
This isn't a Hollywood imaginary fiction movie where they "grill" the bad guys and get them to "sing" and give up the whole gang.
Please leave the childish fantasies to the leftists.
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Chris Hayes and guests are on MSNBC practically salivating and saying that they now have all the evidence they need to prove Trump colluded with the Russians and that they wouldn't be surprised if impeachment papers are filed sometime next week. It is the beginning of the end of Trump. I guess they have to play to their base.
Chris Hayes and guests are on MSNBC practically salivating and saying that they now have all the evidence they need to prove Trump colluded with the Russians and that they wouldn't be surprised if impeachment papers are filed sometime next week. It is the beginning of the end of Trump. I guess they have to play to their base.
Their "base" audience is hard leftist liberals that are unable to discern opinions from facts.
I don't know how anyone could think that those same lefties would be able to discern allegations from evidence any better.
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Originally posted by randye: ... This isn't a Hollywood imaginary fiction movie where they "grill" the bad guys and get them to "sing" and give up the whole gang.
Please leave the childish fantasies to the leftists.
Doesn't mean that that's not what's on their minds. But we shall see...
