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Nfl funding gun control also now by fierobrian
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NFL PLANTS A KNEE TO THE THROAT OF THE 2ND AMENDMENT

IF YOU CARE ABOUT YOUR GUNS, YOU'LL BOYCOTT THE NFL AND ITS SPONSORS
If you're not boycotting the NFL and its sponsors already, you really should be - especially in light of the league's latest assault on our Constitution and our liberty. First, the NFL provides tacit approval of its players' belittlement and desecration of our flag and our national anthem. Now, the NFL has announced it has paid its first $500,000 installment to gun control groups to fund a program designed to take your guns away from you.

Many of us remember the days when the NFL provided wholesome Sunday afternoon entertainment. Players were humble heroes who inspired children and adults alike to give it their all - whether it be on the playing field, in the classroom, or on the job. In contrast, the ranks of players in today's NFL are a loathsome collection of sociopaths to include animal abusers, sex-perverts, wife beaters, rape artists, drunks and drug addicts. Greed and self-indulgence have plunged the NFL into a cesspool of debauchery.

Now the NFL wants to drag you and your guns down into that same cesspool.

The NFL is clearly an enemy of our national anthem, an enemy of our flag, and has now committed itself as an enemy of your gun rights. The best way to fight back against the anti-American, anti-liberty stance of the NFL is to shut the league out of your life. Don't watch their games, don't buy their licensed retail items, and boycott the league's sponsors. Stay true to your American ideals and hold tight to your self-respect. Boycott the NFL.
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Well, I really didn't need another reason to avoid the NFL and it's sponsors but, if they insist, just add it to the list....

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Ron

Isn't it strange that after a bombing, everyone blames the bomber, his upbringing, his environment, his culture, his mental state but …
after a shooting, the problem is the gun....
Open your frigg'n minds, think about all the other tools that can be made into WMDs.

I sincerely hope that life is never discovered on another planet because, sure as hell Progressives and Socialists will want to send them money.

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According to the Houston Comikal Chronicle, it is a "principled" approach.

The NFL's principled stand on gun control
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Originally posted by fierobrian:

NFL PLANTS A KNEE TO THE THROAT OF THE 2ND AMENDMENT

IF YOU CARE ABOUT YOUR GUNS, YOU'LL BOYCOTT THE NFL AND ITS SPONSORS
If you're not boycotting the NFL and its sponsors already, you really should be - especially in light of the league's latest assault on our Constitution and our liberty. First, the NFL provides tacit approval of its players' belittlement and desecration of our flag and our national anthem. Now, the NFL has announced it has paid its first $500,000 installment to gun control groups to fund a program designed to take your guns away from you.

Many of us remember the days when the NFL provided wholesome Sunday afternoon entertainment. Players were humble heroes who inspired children and adults alike to give it their all - whether it be on the playing field, in the classroom, or on the job. In contrast, the ranks of players in today's NFL are a loathsome collection of sociopaths to include animal abusers, sex-perverts, wife beaters, rape artists, drunks and drug addicts. Greed and self-indulgence have plunged the NFL into a cesspool of debauchery.

Now the NFL wants to drag you and your guns down into that same cesspool.

The NFL is clearly an enemy of our national anthem, an enemy of our flag, and has now committed itself as an enemy of your gun rights. The best way to fight back against the anti-American, anti-liberty stance of the NFL is to shut the league out of your life. Don't watch their games, don't buy their licensed retail items, and boycott the league's sponsors. Stay true to your American ideals and hold tight to your self-respect. Boycott the NFL.
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Correct me if I am mistaken, but I think that this message from the ISRA (Illinois State Rifle Association) is in response to something that the San Francisco 49ers organization and franchise ownership are involved with, but not the NFL per se. Not the NFL itself, across the boundaries of all 32 NFL teams or at the NFL executive or league level. Not "NFL Central". Not from the office of NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell. To wit:

"49ers Donate $500K To Gun Control Push"
http://dailycaller.com/2017...to-gun-control-push/

"49ers Join Law Enforcement to Advocate for Gun Control Legislation, Donate $500K"
http://bleacherreport.com/a...islation-donate-500k

What are the specifics of the firearms-related legislation that is being supported in this way by the NFL's San Francisco franchise?

The first clues are in these rather brief reports from the Daily Caller and the Bleacher Report.

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

Correct me if I am mistaken, but I think that this message from the ISRA (Illinois State Rifle Association) is in response to something that the San Francisco 49ers organization and franchise ownership are involved with, but not the NFL per se. Not the NFL itself, across the boundaries of all 32 NFL teams or at the NFL executive or league level. Not "NFL Central". Not from the office of NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell. To wit:

"49ers Donate $500K To Gun Control Push"
http://dailycaller.com/2017...to-gun-control-push/

"49ers Join Law Enforcement to Advocate for Gun Control Legislation, Donate $500K"
http://bleacherreport.com/a...islation-donate-500k

What are the specifics of the firearms-related legislation that is being supported in this way by the NFL's San Francisco franchise?

The first clues are in these rather brief reports from the Daily Caller and the Bleacher Report.



Membership campaign.
 
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To help save your guns, please do the following:

a. Pass this alert on to all your gun owning friends and family.

b. Post this alert to any and all social media sites to which you belong.

c. Join or donate to the Illinois State Rifle Association.

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

Correct me if I am mistaken...


That is an endless task.

"The legislation would ban mechanisms that can make a semi-automatic weapon an automatic weapon....."

That is already illegal.

Before you go blathering on about "bump stocks" or "trigger cranks", ( devices that you personally know nothing about), let's settle that right now:

A "bump stock" or "trigger crank" does NOT convert a semiautomatic rifle into automatic.

It still only fires only ONE bullet for each pull of the trigger. THAT is the fundamental definition of *semiautomatic*.

Feel free to launch off into the other fool's errand, I'm sure you will try, of attempting to tell us all how "silencers" and so-called "armor piercing" ammunition are such an imminent threat. (HINT: you're going to need to demonstrate how much they have been any sort of a major factor in gun crime.....and you can't.)

"A portion of the donation will also fund public service announcements geared towards police brutality and violence."

Those will be a real hoot to watch, I'm sure.

"Team owner Jed York was asked about his political views during an interview with reporters and said he was being painted as left-wing for pushing “commonsense” issues.

“I’m not the most left-wing person in the world. I realize people are trying to sort of paint me as that. That’s not my background politically and how I grew up,” he said. “A lot of these are commonsense issues. When you actually sit down and talk to people and know where they’re coming from,
it’s hard not to be sympathetic and empathetic.”


Once again it's all about leftist's EMOTIONS rather than objective fact and reality.

Impossible not to also note that he uses the, now common, leftist trope; "commonsense issues"

As for the San Francisco 49ers being the sole franchise to do this, (so far), it is worth remembering the NFL player that started the "take a knee" nonsense and what team he was an employee of.

We all know now how that nonsense quickly spread in "monkey see, monkey do" fashion all across the NFL.

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Membership campaign.



Judging from the link provided by the OP, I think the *alert* nature of the announcement is valid.

As I posted above, we all now know with whom, and with what NFL team, the whole "take a knee" crap started and how it spread.

The idea of me financially supporting a business that in turn is actively financing things against MY interests is certainly something that I want to be "alerted" about.

Is it your contention that "fierobrian" is recruiting members for the Illinois Rifle Association?

.....

EDIT: I did go back and look at the web link provided by "fierobrian" and revised my comment accordingly.

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Speaking of guns, I think it is about time to buy a new one.
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Originally posted by randye:

That is an endless task.

"The legislation would ban mechanisms that can make a semi-automatic weapon an automatic weapon....."

That is already illegal.

Before you go blathering on about "bump stocks" or "trigger cranks", ( devices that you personally know nothing about), let's settle that right now:

A "bump stock" or "trigger crank" does NOT convert a semiautomatic rifle into automatic.

It still only fires only ONE bullet for each pull of the trigger. THAT is the fundamental definition of *semiautomatic*.

Feel free to launch off into the other fool's errand, I'm sure you will try, of attempting to tell us all how "silencers" and so-called "armor piercing" ammunition are such an imminent threat. (HINT: you're going to need to demonstrate how much they have been any sort of a major factor in gun crime.....and you can't.)

"A portion of the donation will also fund public service announcements geared towards police brutality and violence."

Those will be a real hoot to watch, I'm sure.

"Team owner Jed York was asked about his political views during an interview with reporters and said he was being painted as left-wing for pushing “commonsense” issues.

“I’m not the most left-wing person in the world. I realize people are trying to sort of paint me as that. That’s not my background politically and how I grew up,” he said. “A lot of these are commonsense issues. When you actually sit down and talk to people and know where they’re coming from,
it’s hard not to be sympathetic and empathetic.”


Once again it's all about leftist's EMOTIONS rather than objective fact and reality.

Impossible not to also note that he uses the, now common, leftist trope; "commonsense issues"

As for the San Francisco 49ers being the sole franchise to do this, (so far), it is worth remembering the NFL player that started the "take a knee" nonsense and what team he was an employee of.

We all know now how that nonsense quickly spread in "monkey see, monkey do" fashion all across the NFL.


How much of that, specifically, is addressed in any way by this highly emotive, hyperbolic and deflecting-style communique (deflections: kneeling during national anthem, national flag worshipping idolatry, some other assorted blather) from the Illinois State Rifle Association?

If I were not already informed otherwise, I might think this communique--the triumph of Unbounded Emotion over Reason--came from the offices of some radical, leftist rabble-rouser or organizer like a Nancy Pelosi, or a Chuck Schemer. It's so alike in style and temperament.

I criticize the communication itself, before I would criticize or offer my personal endorsement about any specifics of any proposals to change or add to the existing body of firearms-related laws at the national or at any state or subordinate level of government.
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Originally posted by rinselberg:

assorted blather


Dammit Ronald, are you off your psychiatric meds *again* ?

Other than the fact that there is never any "caboose" to your meandering trains of thought, the incoherent gobbledygook you post reads like:

"Well, sometimes never I would critic the monkey lunch doesn't purple in an endorsement Monday's clock."


I honestly believe that even you don't know what the hell you're typing. You just string some sh!t together and post it.

 
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...national flag worshipping idolatry...


I also don't believe that anyone here is at all surprised that is your sentiment on the issue.

It fits perfectly with your character and that of every other leftist scumbag.

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49rs had 500,000 to waste? Where did they get the money, I didn't see any fans in the stands at anyone of there home games this season. Keep the downward spiral going NFL.
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Originally posted by randye:


Judging from the link provided by the OP, I think the *alert* nature of the announcement is valid.

As I posted above, we all now know with whom, and with what NFL team, the whole "take a knee" crap started and how it spread.

The idea of me financially supporting a business that in turn is actively financing things against MY interests is certainly something that I want to be "alerted" about.

Is it your contention that "fierobrian" is recruiting members for the Illinois Rifle Association?

.....

EDIT: I did go back and look at the web link provided by "fierobrian" and revised my comment accordingly.



No. Not at all.

He just posted a quote of the link. Three facts related to the post developed my thinking.

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To help save your guns, please do the following:

a. Pass this alert on to all your gun owning friends and family.

b. Post this alert to any and all social media sites to which you belong.

c. Join or donate to the Illinois State Rifle Association.
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2. The link didn't point directly to the ISRA web site. Rather, it pointed to what appears to me to be a web site dedicated to fund raising/membership drive activities
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3. The "NFL" didn't take the action, though I would not be surprised if they had. The $500,000 came from.....well, you know where it came from and why it came from there.

It seems to me, a much more pertinent issue for them, ISRA, would be the gun hater in their own state, and HB4107. HB4107 is addressed both on their web site and their Facebook page. I don't do Twitter.

Edit:From the link to HB4107 -
 
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Political opportunists in Springfield continue to exploit the Las Vegas mass murder to justify attacks on the rights of millions of law-abiding Illinois hunters and sportsmen. The most notable campaign of hatred against lawful gun owners is being waged by Rep. Marty Moylan (D-DesPlaines). The state’s firearm owners recognize Moylan as the chief sponsor of HB4107 – a bill that would require the banning and forfeiture of most of the lawfully-owned firearms in the state.

In a statement recently released by Moylan’s office, the representative verifies that he is targeting the state’s lawful gun owners for punishment in the wake of the Las Vegas mass murder. Moylan’s latest berating of the state’s firearm owners is consistent with his career-long practice of attacking regular folks who dare to own guns.

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Originally posted by texasfiero:

He just posted a quote of the link. Three facts related to the post developed my thinking.



I did find it odd that the Illinois Rifle group was issuing the alert about what ostensibly happened in San Francisco, but as we saw with the "take a knee" garbage, everything has a genesis someplace.
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Ive boycotted NFL for over 50 years. I think all games should be on pay per view for people who want to see them. I watch Home Shopping channel before ever considering watching any game. Id would do pay per view for my car races if all sports did it. I even hate that world series is cutting into my sitcoms.
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Originally posted by rogergarrison:

Ive boycotted NFL for over 50 years. I think all games should be on pay per view for people who want to see them. I watch Home Shopping channel before ever considering watching any game. Id would do pay per view for my car races if all sports did it. I even hate that world series is cutting into my sitcoms.


We watched two episodes of DWTS........
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