Prob one of the best superspeedway races ever !!!! Lots of strategy, action, door to door racing. No clear winner till the last turn.
Kansas is going to be epic since its the final race of the group in the runoffs. Most all of the players MUST win to get in the finals. Only 2 are in for sure and the rest are all up for grabs. Dega really shook up points.
The last stage turned into a "demo derby" late in the race, I believe it set a record for the fewest running cars at the end of a race, (to be "fair" Nascar's rules this year regarding crash damage played a big part. My guess is they will be taking a look at that...)
Stage racing has put some fire under Nascar. It MAKES drivers all actually race from beginning to end for positions. As soon as last year, all the good cars just dropped to the back and followed around in a line until the last pit stop. THAT is when they started to race. They had 450 lap warm ups and a 50 lap real race. You could just watch the last 1/2 hour of any race and ignore the rest. I want, and like, watching each driver go balls to the wall from lap one.
I disagree. Some of the veterans started at the back...and they ran like hell to get to the front. The back half was 'also rans', broken cars and just plain slower cars. Any vet got as far as they could get to the front on every lap. Johnson even spun out twice in a few laps all on his own. I was sorry to see Larson blow up...like to seen him in the finals.
No, referring to ALL the years races, and also specifically Dega and Kansas. Stage racing has pretty much eliminated the 'cruise around at the rear' mentality completely. No one intentionally does it anymore. If your seeing they are, your watching another series.
Stages have added to the race ,but they need to drop the crash clock and make the cars so they can bounce/rub each other without causing the body to rub the tires or blow them out.. They used to have donuts on the sides from "leaning" on the other car and didn't have this issue.. also the tail pipes need work ,the cutting down a tire from that should not happen,
If the teams knew they could rub and race it be much better.. and didn't end their day if stuck on pit row for x minutes or to garage to fix.. That is why the stands are empty why go drive 1-2-3-4-5 hundred miles to see a race and your fav driver team only to have them out because of some silly rule.
Ive seen solutions to all those problems for years, but apparently they dont think of them as issues.
1/ Dont make the wheel openings close for aerodynamics...cut them like 3" above the tires.
2/ Put the valve stems on the inside. The Coddington wheels on my Magnum were on the inside. They dont adjust air pressures on old tires so no need for them to be accessible.
3/ I understand the time limit for repairs, but dont agree with it completely. They done that to eliminate rolling junk cars that are an hazzard on the track.
4/ They could eliminate the exhaust problem by running them towards the rear underneath, or having dumps right behind the front wheels. Some late models have exhaust coming right out of a hole in the fender...they could end a few inches inside the bodywork.
I dont enjoy open wheel racing because there also is no bumping...you touch and your wrecked period.
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I think your just taking their comments literally. With stages, a car winning both stages...and even wrecking out the final, gets 1/2 of the points of the final winner (22 vs 40). Look at playoffs. All those stage points are making huge differences every race. Larson for example was in the top few in points, and with one bad race hes clear out of the running. Johnson only made it to finals because of some of those points. Larson almost beat him for the final 8 and even finished 400 laps behind him.
I like the stage getting points to be in the top 10 at the end of the stage, gets them racing every lap . What I'd change..
1) stage 1 ends the top 10 cross the line they get there points and stage 2 starts, no yellow to end stage 1, it ends and 2 starts.. no yellow.. 2) stage 2 the top 10 get their points but the "required yellow" doesn't come out till the last car finishes, meaning if there is 2 cars 3 laps down, if the stage is 67 laps, until they run that 67th lap the yellow doesn't fly, This will screw with the chess games crew chiefs play on pit stops/fuel windows/etc as they won't know when the yellow will fly till 2/3rd of the stage is run and can't just plan on it falling at a "set" time.. 3) no playoffs/chase.. When they get to the last 12 races, The points double, This way they still have the whole season counting but allowing the last 12 races to get crazy as a few good races and a team that was 15th could end up 3rd in points.. 4) They go back to earning the pole gets you points.. 5) You take the wave around to get back on the lead lap, you earn only 1/2 the points of the day, So if you finish 10th and that pays 20 points but you took the wave around you get 10 points, You get one lucky dog without that reduction of points, the 2nd one you get docked 1/2 the days earned points total..
Yeah. As a result of those stage points, why even watch the Chase? It's a done deal. Yawn.
I'm not dissing the accomplishment of winning the stages, it's just that the racing is boring, as a result. If they want 3 short races, that's what we should have. I'd be good with that. What we have, instead, is points manipulation.
I have no idea how you think its a done deal before the Chase. You have absolutely no idea who is going to win the championship out of just the 8 in the running. You also wont have a clue when its down to 4. Yesterdays race proved that they have to race hard up thru the last race. If you thought yesterdays race at Martinsville was boring, you need to get an adrenaline shot quick. Theres 8 left right now...if your so smart give us the name of the champion winner right now.
You watched a different race than I did. Brad, Truax, Kyle and Elliot and everyone else in the playoff raced like hell from the 1st lap. Brad won both stages and lost the last one because his team mate threw away his lead by driving around on a flat tire. Brad now is just barely above the cut line. The last 30 laps were drivers in desperation and not using their heads to race...not that they suddenly decided to race. Your picking Truax is noted and we will check back in to see if you guessed right. I think myself it will be a toss up between Brad and Kyle.
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