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Have you seen It? Or are you going to? by Khw
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Looks like It came out the gate pretty strong.

It Has Record-Setting $117 Million Opening Weekend
 
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The new Stephen King movie It is not only winning over critics but the film also made a lot of money for its opening weekend. The horror film pulled in $117.2 million over the Friday-Sunday period, according to Entertainment Weekly. That smashed the record for biggest-September opening, far outpacing the previous record-holder (Hotel Transylvania; $48.5 million in 2015). It's also the biggest opening for a horror movie ever, while it's the second-highest debut for a R-rated movie, only behind Deadpool's $132.4 million.

It's opening is the third biggest of 2017, only behind Beauty and the Beast and Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2.


Have you seen It already or do you plan to? If you did, did you like It? ( Simple "Yes" or "No" is fine. If you decide to post a "spoiler" please use the hide tags so you don't give away anything others may not want to know before seeing It. )

Prior to my trip, this being the last weekend before I leave, my wife and I are going to go to dinner and then to the theater to see It this weekend. We are doing it as a late birthday thing for me and early for her since my birthday was on the 3rd this month and my wife's is on the 26th which I unfortunately will be missing. While I like the made for TV version and have it on my Plex server, I am still excited to see this remake. It's been confirmed that what I thought is what is going to be done. If you remember the 2 part miniseries, the first part/night was focused on the Losers club as children. The second part/night was them as adults. The It movie is actually going to be movies with 2 parts like the miniseries. I assume it will be the same young/adult split. I am curious if they will get more into the metaphysical aspects of the books, or shall I say Chud.

Just because, while I will be missing my wife's birthday I have made some plans that I am working on completing now. She doesn't read the forum so I can describe them here. Each time i have to go away my wife has me make a chain with little notes in it for my autistic son. He gets to open 1 link each day I am gone and read the little note from me while getting a visual representation of how much longer I will be gone. The link that he opens the night of her birthday will also have a note for her in it. I have notes I will place in various places around the house that she never really looks. The first note from the chain will set off the series of notes that she will have to go through finding before the last note which will tell her where her actual gift is at. I have gotten a bunch of Harley Quinn themed stuff from earrings to a 2' x 3' framed canvas picture for her. I think she will be rather surprised.

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I'll see it eventually. Streaming in my own living room.

Up here a "movie date" is going to run ya about $100 snacks and pop included....screw that, I can think of a LOT more fun ways (that last longer than 90 minutes) to take a date to for $100.

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Same Crap SK movie w/ better effects. I'll pass.

"Record-Setting" Opening $ is 100%

Many theaters now get $20 to $30 and more per seat and most ticket money go directly to the studio.
So doesn't take as many tickets to set fake "records."

If you adjust old SW and other movie sales to current ticket prices would dwarf tickets sold to current movies.
SW Opening Weekend: $35,906,661 (USA) (31 January 1997) (IMDB) but tickets were $2 to $4
Say SW ticket cost $3 each then and any release now $25...
SW $35906661 ÷ $3 = 11968887 seats vs. SK It $117000000 above ÷ $25 = 4680000 seats
11968887 * $25 = $299,222,175 just for opening weekend. Over 2.5 the money above ticket sales.
SW had people in line around the block for a week or more in many cities. Most theaters back then had 500-1000+ seats each show and would sellout every show for weeks.

A movie shown to nearly 12m people vs >5m just for the opening weekend means the "record" in current ticket sales is garbage.

ETA sorry... 1997 is re-release of edited movie... I redo the math latter w/ 1997 ticket price. I think ~$9?
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I don't get the hype?
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Theogre is right. I often thought they should go by the number of tickets sold, not the dollar amount. Dollar amount is totally misleading. I have no plans to see it, at least till its on TV. The original is on tv currently and I recorded it. Ill watch that next time the weathers bad and I dont have anything to do. My sister watches all these supernatural/horror movies and said the original is much better...which usually is the case. The ONLY movie remake I remember ever being better than the original is John Carpenters 'The Thing'.
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Originally posted by theogre:

Same Crap SK movie w/ better effects. I'll pass.

"Record-Setting" Opening $ is 100%

Many theaters now get $20 to $30 and more per seat and most ticket money go directly to the studio.
So doesn't take as many tickets to set fake "records."

If you adjust old SW and other movie sales to current ticket prices would dwarf tickets sold to current movies.
SW Opening Weekend: $35,906,661 (USA) (31 January 1997) (IMDB) but tickets were $2 to $4
Say SW ticket cost $3 each then and any release now $25...
SW $35906661 ÷ $3 = 11968887 seats vs. SK It $117000000 above ÷ $25 = 4680000 seats
11968887 * $25 = $299,222,175 just for opening weekend. Over 2.5 the money above ticket sales.
SW had people in line around the block for a week or more in many cities. Most theaters back then had 500-1000+ seats each show and would sellout every show for weeks.

A movie shown to nearly 12m people vs >5m just for the opening weekend means the "record" in current ticket sales is garbage.

ETA sorry... 1997 is re-release of edited movie... I redo the math latter w/ 1997 ticket price. I think ~$9?


Yup it should be # of tickets sold not the $ amount .. if they did it that way star wars the original and many older movies would still hold the top 20
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I saw it was good . i have to disagree about ticket prices my local theater is 8 for regular 10 for 3d per ticket before 5 pm it is2 bucks off so would be 6 for regular and8 for 3d. me and the little woman saw it with large pop and large popcorn and milk duds it was 26 bucks.

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After seeing the crappy Dark Tower movie I think I'll skip this one, and probablyany others he might release.
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The problem with total number of tickets sold is that movies stayed in the theaters much longer than they do now. This is a big deal for a horror movie. It isn't saying it's bigger than Star Wars.

I'll see it, but I'm waiting on my MoviePass card ($10/mo for unlimited movies).
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Probably not until it's on Amazon or some streaming service. I read the book about 15 years ago before I would watch the original movie. Absolutely loved the book, absolutely hated the movie. I saw this come out and just rolled my eyes. I was actually thinking about picking up the book again just because I forget a lot of what happened, and it was one I couldn't put down.
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Oh geeze...get ready for another round of 'scary clown' sightings around the country......
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Oh geeze...get ready for another round of 'scary clown' sightings around the country......


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Originally posted by theogre:


Many theaters now get $20 to $30 and more per seat and most ticket money go directly to the studio.


ETA sorry... 1997 is re-release of edited movie... I redo the math latter w/ 1997 ticket price. I think ~$9?


I must not be going to the right theaters. Regular price admission here seems to be about $12 to $15.
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I'm not watching it until it's on something for free.

Not because of anything other than he wrote in the ending of The Dark Tower, and I think he's a hack anymore.

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I saw it Tues night. I did like it.

Spoiler

There is a Fiero in the movie. It is on screen for like maybe 5 seconds or less. Something to keep an eye out for when you go lol
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The problem with total number of tickets sold is that movies stayed in the theaters much longer than they do now.


They did because they still were selling tickets. I saw Star Wars a few dozen times. 3 times just on opening day. Tickets were $1.50. I HATE theaters now and there is and has been no movie id ever pay $10-$20 for. Also factor in the population is much higher now too. With twice as many people, and quadruple prices, its only probable they would have higher openings now.

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Originally posted by Fats:

I'm not watching it until it's on something for free.

Not because of anything other than he wrote in the ending of The Dark Tower, and I think he's a hack anymore.

Brad


Do you mean the ending in the book or the ending in the movie? If movie, I expected it to be bad anyways. The books are so "WTF?" already on their own. I read the first 5 books, if I recall correctly, and still had no idea where anything was headed or why. If you try to distill a 7 book series down into one movie, well good luck with that. Was the Dark Tower movie the first in a series of movies? I watched the trailers for the movie and just watching those it looked like so much garbage. But then I think the books are a tedious study in self deprivation as it is.

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Originally posted by S-toon:

I saw it Tues night. I did like it.

Spoiler

There is a Fiero in the movie. It is on screen for like maybe 5 seconds or less. Something to keep an eye out for when you go lol




I'll keep an eye out for it when we go. It probably won't be until Sunday night now because my wife decided to fall down the stairs this morning while I was at work. She's laying in bed now after taking some pain meds because she doesn't want to go to Urgent Care or the ER... I swear this woman could get her hand mangled in a garbage disposal and she still wouldn't want to go see a doctor.
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I might see it, but WOW I forgot how lame the original was. We watched it as a refresher. I sure hope the new is nothing like the old.
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Don't care for the clowns appearance.. looks ridiculous and a lot of the shots are CGI enhanced which I cannot stand. I don't want to watch a cartoon.. completely ruins any bit of scary or creepy for me.
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Just getting home from the theater. First impression is, I like it. Let me mull it over and I'll post some thoughts on it tomorrow.

 
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Don't care for the clowns appearance.. looks ridiculous and a lot of the shots are CGI enhanced which I cannot stand. I don't want to watch a cartoon.. completely ruins any bit of scary or creepy for me.


The problem I have with this is we are essentially watching a movie about a metaphysical entity bordering on being a God (according to the book). That's not really something you can successfully portray through traditional special effects, as the miniseries showed us with it's pathetic spider rendition and let down of an ending.

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Edit: I was being political. Erased. I apologize for being rude to the OP and to the rest of you. I should have thought before I posted.

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My thoughts:

The format and timeline of occurrence is enough of a separation to make this movie feel like it's own rather than a remake. The made for TV miniseries was stifled by the limitations of what was able to be shown on television at the time. The movie is not stifled by those limitations and as such was able to take advantage of that in how it presented the story. There are some changes as part of what's written in the book wouldn't be exactly socially acceptable, even today. However, the late 80's timeline lent itself well to the story allowing for the more... colorful language and humor many of us 80's kids probably used. That makes the move rather relate-able to those of us of that vintage, outside the creepy clown stuff. I didn't see some of what I was hoping to see, but what I did see gives me high hopes that Chapter 2 will not entirely forgo that content in favor of an easy end fight.

Over all I really did enjoy the movie and am happy I saw it on a large screen. It's been awhile since I could really say that meaning it entirely. I can not think of any regret to seeing it at the theater rather than waiting for DVD or Netflix. While I won't go see it in the theater again, I would if someone else was paying. I just don't do the re-watch in a theater thing.
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Originally posted by Tony Kania:

Stephen King is making his political thoughts known. I will make mine known by boycotting this azzhole. I would love to see this movie, but I am seeing too many make money of being fake. I will hold onto my funds for those that are worthy of the monies that I have earned.

Perhaps that in which we think is important is not so important after all?


In that case you should probably be boycotting just about everything that comes out of Hollywood. After all, it's all produced by the liberal backing production companies donating to their agendas.
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In that case you should probably be boycotting just about everything that comes out of Hollywood. After all, it's all produced by the liberal backing production companies donating to their agendas.




I almost erased my post earlier. I should have not turned political. I apologize.
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I almost erased my post earlier. I should have not turned political. I apologize.


No problem Tony.
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I must not be going to the right theaters. Regular price admission here seems to be about $12 to $15.


You go alone? or is there a g/f wife so 2x15 is 30 bucks.
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You go alone? or is there a g/f wife so 2x15 is 30 bucks.


Wife. 2 tickets was $19.50 so less than $10 a piece. I didn't see anything in ogres post stating his cost was for 2 tickets. The theater we attended was one of the more expensive in this area. The $9.75 each isn't all that much more than the $7.50 it was in the late 80's early 90's when I was dating. That was California though and I am in Utah now. But to suggest that they are as expensive as ogre suggested is disingenuous. Maybe they run that in NYC or LA but the whole country isn't only those places. There are plenty of places where tickets are not that expensive. $5.50 for a drink on the other hand though...

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Going to pass till its on TV.
I use to like his stuff but he just draws things out too much.
Havent enjoyed one of his books in years.

After some of his comments I don't really care about the man, he has the right to speak his mind and I have a right to not listen.
Just don't care.
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Originally posted by Jake_Dragon:

Going to pass till its on TV.
I use to like his stuff but he just draws things out too much.
Havent enjoyed one of his books in years.

After some of his comments I don't really care about the man, he has the right to speak his mind and I have a right to not listen.
Just don't care.


I get what you're saying and understand. I'm not a big King fan, having only read It and The Stand after seeing the made for TV mini series they produced for each. With all the buzz I kept hearing about how good The Dark Tower series was, I gave it a go but just couldn't get into it. That's it for him book wise that I have done and except the Dark Tower series which I got used, the other 2 were library books. Other than that I've seen the Rose Red made for TV miniseries, Firestarter, Silver Bullet, Christine, 1408, The Mist, The Green Mile, The Shawshank Redemption, The Running Man, Stand By Me and Graveyard Shift. All of those were as rentals or on TV... with the possible exception of The Running Man which I think I might have seen in the theater but don't recall for sure. I know I like that one and may pick up the DVD second hand someday off of eBay to add it to my Plex. Even so, many of them were from rentals when my parents rented them in my young and teen years.

As you can see, I haven't contributed much monetarily to him from his books or movies. Like you though, I feel he has a rite to free speech just like everybody else does and do not wish to deny him that rite as I would not like it denied to me. However, I don't have to like a person or their views to enjoy what they have made or helped make. Tim Allen has views many here approve of but consider how much of the money made from all the Santa Clause movies he starred in, went to liberal causes at the hands of Disney?
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The Wheel of time was a good series. By Robert Jordan, but as I progressed through the books you could feel a change. He was getting sick and you could tell in his writing.
I still have 3 books left to read and just cant get into them.

Its bad when a writer is influenced and the art is compromised.
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Originally posted by Jake_Dragon:

The Wheel of time was a good series. By Robert Jordan, but as I progressed through the books you could feel a change. He was getting sick and you could tell in his writing.
I still have 3 books left to read and just cant get into them.

Its bad when a writer is influenced and the art is compromised.


If it's the last three, those are the ones Brandon Sanderson wrote from Robert Jordan's notes and written portions. I love that series, but have only ever done the audio version. I can't imagine how long it would take me to complete the written.
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If it's the last three, those are the ones Brandon Sanderson wrote from Robert Jordan's notes and written portions. I love that series, but have only ever done the audio version. I can't imagine how long it would take me to complete the written.


It was suppose to be one book but they broke it up into 3
I read his blog right after he passed away and he said he left notes for the final book.
After he passed the publisher decided that three books would be worth more money, go figure.
But you could tell something was off in the last couple of books he wrote.
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